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I saw only the fifth inning for Killian so I did not see the strikeouts in the first or the runs I gave up in the fourth. But what I did see was a guy who looks very much mechanically like Mark Prior.

Don’t get me wrong I’m not predicting he’s that talented, though maybe he can be. But physically watching him on the mound from the centerfield camera it looked like watching Mark Prior.
Even has the same socks style. He lost command of his fastball in the 4th. I believe that Higgins wanted him to change up his sequencing on the 2nd tour and he ended up missing on his fastball. Then he spiked a hammer that got a run in.

He was at his best when he was attacking the zone early with his fastball then going with the hammer when ahead and 2 strikes. He will need a change up to keep the hitters off balance because they can catch up to 97 when they know it is coming.

But over all they should keep him up and gaining confidence. For a first game he looked like a ace in development.
 

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He has only two pitches and one is a fastball that’s not very fast. That’ll be hard to maintain success with. But he has looked decent in two starts.

We will see. His hammer looks plus and he can throw it for a strike. Wainwright has made a living late career on a sub avg fastball and a plus hammer. Never know how he will shake out.
 

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Welp, we arent going to see Davis this year most likely. He had back surgery, but not all bad news. Its not structural damage to his back. He had a nest of blood vessels pushing on a nerve which was causing the problems.
 

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We will see. His hammer looks plus and he can throw it for a strike. Wainwright has made a living late career on a sub avg fastball and a plus hammer. Never know how he will shake out.
I think he is talking about Swarmer. Killian has 4 pitches. Fastball is his best pitch followed by his cutter/slider, curveball, and a circle change. The change is his worst but its him more refining it.
 

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Welp, we arent going to see Davis this year most likely. He had back surgery, but not all bad news. Its not structural damage to his back. He had a nest of blood vessels pushing on a nerve which was causing the problems.

The good news is that this explains his recent struggles.
 

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I saw only the fifth inning for Killian so I did not see the strikeouts in the first or the runs I gave up in the fourth. But what I did see was a guy who looks very much mechanically like Mark Prior.

Don’t get me wrong I’m not predicting he’s that talented, though maybe he can be. But physically watching him on the mound from the centerfield camera it looked like watching Mark Prior.
I had the exact same thought watching him pitch, prior was the guy that popped into my head too
 

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He has only two pitches and one is a fastball that’s not very fast. That’ll be hard to maintain success with. But he has looked decent in two starts.
I was actually thinking that too, but was just watching a gamecast. I read later though that swarmer has multiple variations on his breaking ball where he can make it break differently. So basically while it was saying slider repeatedly, he can use it in different ways
 

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I think he is talking about Swarmer. Killian has 4 pitches. Fastball is his best pitch followed by his cutter/slider, curveball, and a circle change. The change is his worst but its him more refining it.
Yes, I was discussing Swarmer.
 

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I think he is talking about Swarmer. Killian has 4 pitches. Fastball is his best pitch followed by his cutter/slider, curveball, and a circle change. The change is his worst but its him more refining it.

I was also talking about Swarmer. He is a hammer pitcher.

On Kilian: he should try other types of off speed also. Smyly struggled with the circle and dropped it this year in lieu of a splitter. Comes out of his hand more naturally.
 

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Robertson looked terrific in Game 2 last night. But the minute I saw Rucker on the mound in the 10th I knew the Cubs were in trouble. That was ugly.
Robertson’s trade value looking mighty nice right now
 

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I was also talking about Swarmer. He is a hammer pitcher.

On Kilian: he should try other types of off speed also. Smyly struggled with the circle and dropped it this year in lieu of a splitter. Comes out of his hand more naturally.
Why? He has two types of breaking balls. He isn’t an over dominant pitcher so a change isn’t extremely necessary. I rather a pitcher have 3 solid pitches then have 6 in his arsenal that are meh. Yu is the only guy I ever see get away with so many pitches
 

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I don't think we've seen the best of Kilian. He may have 4 pitches but I only saw 3 last night. Just guessing I'd say about 90% of his pitches were either fastballs or cutters. He's got a real nice hook but he was obviously having trouble placing it where he wanted....I don't remember seeing any straight changes. Once he gets that curve in order, he should be something to watch.
 

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Wow. That's inexcusable by Happ.

Rather than go back to the tag up initially, he is way off the bag, tags up after the throw from RF and gets cut down on a relay.

The runner from 3rd is headed home immediately. How are you not going 2nd to 3rd?
 

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Wow. That's inexcusable by Happ.

Rather than go back to the tag up initially, he is way off the bag, tags up after the throw from RF and gets cut down on a relay.

The runner from 3rd is headed home immediately. How are you not going 2nd to 3rd?
Yep, at that my point he might as well stay his “HAPPy” ass at 2nd

Never make the 1st or 3rd out at 3rd
 

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Yep, at that my point he might as well stay his “HAPPy” ass at 2nd

Never make the 1st or 3rd out at 3rd
It was simply a matter of tagging up. It was a fly ball that was definitely going to be caught. I understand he doesn't want to go to 3rd and get tagged before Contreras scores, but if he just tags and goes, he easily makes it.
 

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It was simply a matter of tagging up. It was a fly ball that was definitely going to be caught. I understand he doesn't want to go to 3rd and get tagged before Contreras scores, but if he just tags and goes, he easily makes it.
Yep, agreed. But once he hesitated, he just should of stayed put. Better to make a mistake that doesn’t = an out, than to make a mistake that does = 3rd out at 3rd

All tagging up successfully accomplishes there is getting a guy to 3rd with 2 outs, not much more advantageous than a guy at 2nd with 2 outs
 

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Nice D two plays in a row, and perhaps a favorable call at 2nd.
 

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The pitch was high, Yadi, you whiny fucking ****!

Why does a batter get thrown out for arguing balls and strikes but not a catcher?
 

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Why? He has two types of breaking balls. He isn’t an over dominant pitcher so a change isn’t extremely necessary. I rather a pitcher have 3 solid pitches then have 6 in his arsenal that are meh. Yu is the only guy I ever see get away with so many pitches

If a pitch is not working. Woody upped his game late when he started using his change up.

Kilian was ammped up and was popping 97 with late movement. But he settled in around 93-95 after the initial rush.

With hitters timing is everything. If they gauge a velocity and that pitcher is on that speed 80% the time hitters will sit on the heat. Having a change keeps his elbow and hand in the same spot as a fastball. Good hitters will look at the elbow vs the hand. Curve wrist is neutral position. Fastball and change the pitcher is more behind the ball and hand and wrist is supination.
 

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