Hockey Writer Gets Canned For Veiled Insinuations Of Hawks Cap Shenanigans

[LordKOTL]

Not really. After all every season lasts xxx amount of days and every player is paid based upon those days--meaning that salary per game is a finite quantity and can be calculated. Beyond that not every team makes it to the playoffs, and for those that do, how do you take it into consideration? If the playoffs effect cap negatively it harms the system. The way it works right now--playoffs are a bonus, provides an incentive to teams and players to make the playoffs--after all, the revenue goes up and playwers get bonus cash not subject to cap.

I will say this: I can see the argument for and against closing that loophole. On one hand, a "fortuitous accident" that has a player injured until right as the playoffs start can lead to a stacked team that might not be fair competition in the playoffs. However, this only really affects legitimate playof contender teams that lose a star or better. If the 'hawks couldn't mitigate the loss of Kane to play the season out, they could have missed the playoffs, and then the next lower team might have gotten in (realistically, LA, or maybe Dallas). Both of those teams are (in theory) lower quality playoff opponents, leading to a lower quality playoff (LA could be argued). Further, it's only a one-season sort of deal. If the 'hawks would lose Kane or Toews (or anyone really) next year in the same circumstance--questions would be asked.

I think the most that comes out of it is maybe more league questioning of whether or not a player is medically qualified prior to the season ending. Relaistically, no team is going to egg a fringe star to try and get injured similar to Kane just to stack the team--too much can go wrong.

 

[DMelt36]

I think the most that comes out of it is maybe more league questioning of whether or not a player is medically qualified prior to the season ending. Relaistically, no team is going to egg a fringe star to try and get injured similar to Kane just to stack the team--too much can go wrong.

Yeah, just ask LA.

Excellent post.

 

[MassHavoc]

Honestly, I think the most that happens out of this is in the future, if a player with high salary gets knocked out of comission prior to the TDL and their timetable of return is right around the beginning of the playoffs, the league might ask the team to have a league/3rd party doctor make a determination to see if the player is clear to play or not.

On the surface there was nothing wrong with this--if a player is LTIR'ed the team can replace their salary and there's no salary, cap, or anything other than the (I believe) 50 player roster limit. The only sticking point would have been if Kane was able to be medically cleared prior to the end of the season.

No, you can't institute new league parameters just because some random POS blogger gets butthurt and makes up stories.

 

[MassHavoc]

Don't the players get a flat rate per game in the playoffs? Everyone makes the same? I would think that they should be paid the pro-rated per game rate of their contract? With a minimum rate?

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

Don't the players get a flat rate per game in the playoffs? Everyone makes the same? I would think that they should be paid the pro-rated per game rate of their contract? With a minimum rate?

Pretty sure NHL players don't get paid for the Playoffs other than bonuses laid out in their contracts.

 

[HawkWriter]

Pretty sure NHL players don't get paid for the Playoffs other than bonuses laid out in their contracts.

The NHL sets aside money for each team depending on how far they go. The further they go, the more money each team gets. The team then distributes it to the players evenly. That is how the players get paid in the playoffs.

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

The NHL sets aside money for each team depending on how far they go. The further they go, the more money each team gets. The team then distributes it to the players evenly. That is how the players get paid in the playoffs.

#callEDIT

 

[MassHavoc]

Yeah, which to me is still bullshit. The NHL should pay each player their contract rate for each playoff game. They make a shit tone more in money during the playoffs but the players most likely get less.

 

[BlackHawkPaul]

http://www.chicitysports.com/forum/showthread.php/66180-Kane-s-getting-closer
#CalledIT

 

[LordKOTL]

No, you can't institute new league parameters just because some random POS blogger gets butthurt and makes up stories.

None of those parameters are really "new". A player on LTIR has to be medically cleared to play and cannot stay on LTIR if they are cleared to play. As such, I think if the league does decide to do something about this the most it might do is reserve the right to have a player be examined by a 3rd party doctor if they think they're cheating the LTIR rules--that's it. I figured that might happen as soon as we landed Antoinne Merriwether, not months later when some butthurt blogger makes wild claims that would put both Fox News and CNBC to shame--since it seems similar to the whole Kovalchuk contract dispute.

As for the payment in the playoffs, I haven't a clue but honestly I think the money they get should be pegged to perfomance, not split equally and not pegged to salary. To wit: in game 1 of the Nashville series Darling should have gotten the lion's share of the money for that game--and the skaters + Crawford should have fought over the table scraps.

 

[ClydeLee]

None of those parameters are really "new". A player on LTIR has to be medically cleared to play and cannot stay on LTIR if they are cleared to play. As such, I think if the league does decide to do something about this the most it might do is reserve the right to have a player be examined by a 3rd party doctor if they think they're cheating the LTIR rules--that's it. I figured that might happen as soon as we landed Antoinne Merriwether, not months later when some butthurt blogger makes wild claims that would put both Fox News and CNBC to shame--since it seems similar to the whole Kovalchuk contract dispute.

As for the payment in the playoffs, I haven't a clue but honestly I think the money they get should be pegged to perfomance, not split equally and not pegged to salary. To wit: in game 1 of the Nashville series Darling should have gotten the lion's share of the money for that game--and the skaters + Crawford should have fought over the table scraps.

Based on whose judgement?

Hell I'd say if we were doing that for playoffs, just do it for all sports at all times but there's no objective ideal way to distribute value out that way. It's always going to be flawed and biased by some human hands, even if a computer system is implemented because that will have arbitrary values imputed.

 

[MassHavoc]

Based on whose judgement?

Hell I'd say if we were doing that for playoffs, just do it for all sports at all times but there's no objective ideal way to distribute value out that way. It's always going to be flawed and biased by some human hands, even if a computer system is implemented because that will have arbitrary values imputed.

It's a simple system. You give every player 100k per hit. And boom. Big foot justified.

But yeah. No way does a straight performance based system ever make sense nor will it work as too much is subjective.

 

[LordKOTL]

I can dream, can't I? Besdies, I don't think anyone here cannot claim that Darling did indeed deserve the lion's share of the money for Nashville game 1 and everyone else deserved the table scraps.

Seriously though it's remotely plausible, but it would indeed be arbitrary to weight each stat or factor with respect to the other. Somehow it's going to come down to the eye test.

After series 1, though, I don't think doing it by salary is fair. All even is probably the best way to do it because there's no way Keith, Toews, Hossa, Kane, Sharp, Seabrook, or Crawford each earned 10x as much as Darling did.

 

[Samurai]

None of those parameters are really "new". A player on LTIR has to be medically cleared to play and cannot stay on LTIR if they are cleared to play. As such, I think if the league does decide to do something about this the most it might do is reserve the right to have a player be examined by a 3rd party doctor if they think they're cheating the LTIR rules--that's it. I figured that might happen as soon as we landed Antoinne Merriwether, not months later when some butthurt blogger makes wild claims that would put both Fox News and CNBC to shame--since it seems similar to the whole Kovalchuk contract dispute.

As for the payment in the playoffs, I haven't a clue but honestly I think the money they get should be pegged to perfomance, not split equally and not pegged to salary. To wit: in game 1 of the Nashville series Darling should have gotten the lion's share of the money for that game--and the skaters + Crawford should have fought over the table scraps.

What do we say when someone randomly invokes my name...

 

[PatrickShart]

I'm confused, because some random idiot poster says the Hawks doctors are the worst, and claims they force injured players to play

Now....they hold players back from playing to circumvent the cap?

 

[Rex]

The NHL sets aside money for each team depending on how far they go. The further they go, the more money each team gets. The team then distributes it to the players evenly. That is how the players get paid in the playoffs.

that's socialism! No wonder the russians never show up in the playoffs!