Hope these clowns don't screw things up

[dbldrew]

So you can't do it . You can't name one.
You have created an imaginary category that no young QB has resided in and criticized Justin Fields for not residing there.
Just as I thought.

I cant name a QB who improved the players around him? Not true I have shows Allen did that.

My argument was that Fields doesnt improve the players around him and have shown examples of that..

Lets keep looking!

This year Claypool averaged 38.9 yards per game in Pit, and under Justin Generational Fields only 18.5 ypg..


Side note you have to be a real moron to trade away a high 2nd round pic for a guy only averaging 39 yards.. this team is fucked..

 

[Discus fish salesman]

I cant name a QB who improved the players around him? Not true I have shows Allen did that.

My argument was that Fields doesnt improve the players around him and have shown examples of that..

Lets keep looking!

This year Claypool averaged 38.9 yards per game in Pit, and under Justin Generational Fields only 18.5 ypg..


Side note you have to be a real moron to trade away a high 2nd round pic for a guy only averaging 39 yards.. this team is fucked..

Ryan Poles is black, so your side note tracks with your posting history

@MDB111™ @BaBaBlacksheep

 

[dbldrew]

Do you care more about yards or touchdowns?

both are important, but overall production is based on yards in the NFL. Are you trying to diminish Fields running yards because he hasn't scored many TD? There is no reason to attack Fields on his running, He is a very good runner, you trying to diminish his running accomplishments just discredits you as a poster. I for one will not stand for your blatant attempt to besmirch Fields running prowess!

 

[Les Grossman]

Still can't believe Poles went back to back on CB and Safety and then got a gimmick WR with his top picks in the draft.

 

[Anytime23]

I said Fields doesnt elevate the players around him, I gave an example of Allen year 2 elevating a middling WR up to over 1000 yards.

I showed how Mooney plays worse under Fields (not being elevated)

Lets look at Kmet

Last year under Justin Generational Fields Kmet averaged 34.2 yards per game
Under the Red rocket and Big Dick Foles he averaged 45.6 ypg

This year under Justin Generational Fields Kmet is averaging 30.6 ypg

Another example of not elevating the talent around him and another strong argument for him making them worse..

Now do Kmets TDs with Fields vs everyone else.
Do Mooneys TDs last season with Fields vs the other 2.

But yeah, congrats to the great Andy Dalton for helping them get slightly more yardage in the offense that was suited for him where he got all the reps in his 11th NFL season over the rookie who got zero coaching from the idiot who didn't know how to use him.

Maybe we should put a QB in an even average situation before expecting him to elevate the roster?

Idk why im even posting this. Im talking to the guy who defended Mitch Trubisky for 4 years and credited Jimmy G with the Niners success. Maybe Fields should bleach his skin in the off-season and more around here will give him a chance. A little Sammy Sosa action.

 

[cameronkrazie86]

both are important, but overall production is based on yards in the NFL. Are you trying to diminish Fields running yards because he hasn't scored many TD? There is no reason to attack Fields on his running, He is a very good runner, you trying to diminish his running accomplishments just discredits you as a poster. I for one will not stand for your blatant attempt to besmirch Fields running prowess!

I asked which you cared more about - yards or touchdowns, nothing else.

 

[mecha]

The guy who wants to meet up with CCS members to fight them but plays it off as “for a beer”?

beer at O'Hare. yes.

little weird.

 

[Anytime23]

I asked which you cared more about - yards or touchdowns, nothing else.

Yards of course. He'd take Siemian's 10 points over anything Fields has ever done.

 

[Discus fish salesman]

both are important, but overall production is based on yards in the NFL. Are you trying to diminish Fields running yards because he hasn't scored many TD? There is no reason to attack Fields on his running, He is a very good runner, you trying to diminish his running accomplishments just discredits you as a poster. I for one will not stand for your blatant attempt to besmirch Fields running prowess!

Lol yards is more important than tds huh? Let me know which wins games dipshit.

 

[dbldrew]

I asked which you cared more about - yards or touchdowns, nothing else.

we can all read between the lines with that "question" specifically designed to attack Fields.. You must be one of the racist I keep hearing about!

 

[cameronkrazie86]

we can all read between the lines with that "question" specifically designed to attack Fields.. You must be one of the racist I keep hearing about!

Why are you deflecting on a simple question of which you care about more - yards or touchdowns?

 

[mecha]

we can all read between the lines with that "question" specifically designed to attack Fields.. You must be one of the racist I keep hearing about!

yards or touchdowns is racist?

Fields had a stretch where he was putting up 4+ touchdowns a game and the Bears still lost, so I don't know, maybe you have a point... he needed 300+ yards passing to win I guess.

 

[Anytime23]

Damn that Jimmy G sure is good! Never mind that the SB ready team traded 3 1st round picks to replace him but still, im not sure they could have done this without him.

 

[dbldrew]

Why are you deflecting on a simple question of which you care about more - yards or touchdowns?

I care about TD for wining games, but for evaluating production the NFL looks at yards. You could throw the ball on every play and drive down the field and then run it in with a RB, does that mean the WR that moved the ball down the field should be discredited because of 1 play? Overall production is yards, it always has been

 

[iueyedoc]

I cant name a QB who improved the players around him? Not true I have shows Allen did that.

My argument was that Fields doesnt improve the players around him and have shown examples of that..

Lets keep looking!

This year Claypool averaged 38.9 yards per game in Pit, and under Justin Generational Fields only 18.5 ypg..


Side note you have to be a real moron to trade away a high 2nd round pic for a guy only averaging 39 yards.. this team is fucked..

You've named a single player in a single season, which went on to have his second worst season in Yrds/R, Yrds, Rec, and TD's in his 7 yr career with the same QB the following season.

Again please name one 2nd yr QB to show he can elevate his middling talent to the levels you are expecting Fields to be able to do.


Oh and that same QB you are fawning over about put up these numbers with Brown in his second year:




vs Fields 2nd season


Better Comp %,passer rating, better QBR,better Y/A,betterTD %, better rushing Y/A.

So minus the passing volume , he has just been a better QB.
Cool. Imagine when they add the Pro Bowl WR and OL he needs.

 

[mecha]

I care about TD for wining games, but for evaluating production the NFL looks at yards. You could throw the ball on every play and drive down the field and then run it in with a RB, does that mean the WR that moved the ball down the field should be discredited because of 1 play? Overall production is yards, it always has been

if you perform simple math, as I've stated in multiple IGTs and the like, Fields' yardage divided by number of attempts, it comes out to or very close to 10 yards at a crack. that means if he throws the ball, it's effectively a first down. I think first downs is a more important metric than passing yardage. the only people that care about passing yardage are statistic wonks or fantasy football jackoffs. most quarterbacks around the league have something like 40 attempts throwing the ball. Fields maybe hits 20-25 times on a really heavy passing day. the last few weeks excluded, when teams were expecting them to run, Fields or Montgomery/whoever were still gashing them with the run.

I've observed this guy doesn't respond to me either, another member of the ignore mecha and his vast logic committee.

 

[MDB111™]

I care about TD for wining games, but for evaluating production the NFL looks at yards. You could throw the ball on every play and drive down the field and then run it in with a RB, does that mean the WR that moved the ball down the field should be discredited because of 1 play? Overall production is yards, it always has been

No. No it hasn't. Please link to that or shut the **** up.

 

[MDB111™]

Imagine caring how a player gets first down and moves the ball.

Can't pass it for first to satisfy dblpoo? **** it take a sack.

The following is an accurate dbldoo thought

3rd and 14. Ball is hiked! Oline breaks down! Fields is scrambling! Touchdown Fields! a 71 yard Score!!!!

Dbldoo-----" He's a pretty crappy qb. He didn't pass it.

 

[Anytime23]

I care about TD for wining games, but for evaluating production the NFL looks at yards. You could throw the ball on every play and drive down the field and then run it in with a RB, does that mean the WR that moved the ball down the field should be discredited because of 1 play? Overall production is yards, it always has been

No you don't. You care about Justin Fields being Mitch Trubisky's replacement. If you cared about Tds than you wouldn't have dropped loads over Trevor Siemian having 1 TD that should have 100% been an INT

 

[dbldrew]

yards or touchdowns is racist?

Fields had a stretch where he was putting up 4+ touchdowns a game and the Bears still lost, so I don't know, maybe you have a point... he needed 300+ yards passing to win I guess.

Maybe its racist? have a hard time keeping up with what people call others racist for, diminishing his running seems like that should qualify?