How do you feel about contraction in the NBA?

[CODE_BLUE56]

i had a bowel contraction once

and i named it david stern

 

[Crystallas]

Stern brought this onto the league. His idea that places like Key Arena, in Seattle, were not competitive with the NBA, sent a shock to the owners who were on the bubble. They wanted to prove they could over-composite for their hard to shake situations in whatever market, by over-spending their caps. This attempt to stay competitive cost owners far more money, when their natural surroundings were not ready for the bad contracts that plagued the league. All sports will have bad contracts, but the NBA went OVERBOARD at the point of the Sonic's scare and then after.

Before that point, Stern was an incredible Commissioner. It has been since then, that the NBA has grown divided in what it wants to accomplish, from the perspective of the owners, players, player association leaders and reps. Stern has grown to become far to powerful in this league, and he has to go, someone has the reverse this notion of forcing teams to be unfairly be competitive, and then we can see organizations that have poor fan bases, actually see someplace that actually cares about NBA basketball.

You don't need to win to make money. You just have to try, and not spend more than you take in. Naturally, this will make some teams better, and other worse, but so what? You bring in that one piece, and you can change everything around. Get rid of Bird rules, and get rid of the lousy owners. Don't punish the loyal fans because your team can have bad management and get nothing but a slap on the wrist.

 

[houheffna]

Probably go by the worst teams after all the worst teams get eliminated.

They are not going by the worst teams performance wise...they will go by attendance more than anything. Markets that can't support their franchises should be the first to go. For example, New Orleans made the playoffs, New Jersey didn't. But as far as who goes first, New Orleans is the choice and its a no-brainer. Moving that team down there has been pretty much a disaster.

 

[scottiepippen1994]

Maybe the charlotte bobcats will go and the hornets can move back where they belong..

Or a garenteed marketable location like chicago..I'm sure the crosstown rival between the bulls and hornets would be like cubs and sox....like I said, there's still a vacant lot by the dixmoor-harvey boarderline...

 

[BMR31]

They are not going by the worst teams performance wise...they will go by attendance more than anything. Markets that can't support their franchises should be the first to go. For example, New Orleans made the playoffs, New Jersey didn't. But as far as who goes first, New Orleans is the choice and its a no-brainer. Moving that team down there has been pretty much a disaster.

LOL @ this

 

[BNB]

LOL @ this

?? It's true.

The Hornets are really struggling. They would likely be one of the teams that would be gone if there was a contraction.

The Nets attendance isn't great either... but they'll be moving to Brooklyn...

 

[BMR31]

?? It's true.

The Hornets are really struggling. They would likely be one of the teams that would be gone if there was a contraction.

The Nets attendance isn't great either... but they'll be moving to Brooklyn...

He was asking what order the teams left over, would pick in....

 

[bleacherbum54]

Bill Simmons I was a fan of and still is. But he looked like an idiot on the BS report with David Stern. He said he wanted to move all the teams to big markets what an idiot. Im with Stern and the owners. Anyone who hasn't listen to the BS report should was a great list but Bill looks like an idiot.


The B.S. Report: 8/12 - ESPN

 

[bleacherbum54]

?? It's true.

The Hornets are really struggling. They would likely be one of the teams that would be gone if there was a contraction.

The Nets attendance isn't great either... but they'll be moving to Brooklyn...

This is BS the Hornets aren't struggling comparatively. I think there is almost zero percent contraction takes place. You realize if you contract you will have to pay off those owners. It just isn't gonna happen. The players simply make 2 much money that is the bottom line if they split BRI 50-50 and take a 5% pay cut then the lockout would be over. These players are just greedy and needed to realize 22 teams lose money and that they need to take a pay cut. The owners are on board for revenue sharing but the players have to compromise 2.

 

[bleacherbum54]

I say leave it the way it is. Don't get rid of any teams and no more expansion teams.

If you really have to get rid of any teams then I would say Toronto and Minnesota.

I would also throw in a bonus by loading all of Miami's players on a rocket and sending them to the sun. I'm sure their late arriving, phony, bandwagon fans would never even notice they were gone.

Toronto isnt going anywhere they are one of the more successful franchises. Toronto is a great market and they aren't gonna contract that team. Honestly contraction isnt gonna happen the players don't want contraction that is 30+ jobs down the drain. Like i said before the owners wont want contraction either.

 

[houheffna]

?? It's true.

The Hornets are really struggling. They would likely be one of the teams that would be gone if there was a contraction.

The Nets attendance isn't great either... but they'll be moving to Brooklyn...

I see what he was laughing at...I totally misunderstood what Clonetrooper was talking about. He was talking about the order in which teams would pick in a dispersal draft, I was talking about which teams would be contracted.

 

[marky mark]

Well if there is a contraction you will see more teams with a "big 3" look to them, but how will they pay all these players if there is a 45M hard cap?

 

[houheffna]

Here are the latest attendance stats from the past season...

2010-2011 NBA Attendance - National Basketball Association - ESPN

Maybe New Orleans shouldn't be contracted, it seems they have had a lot of trouble with bad ownership, its been a mess down there.

 

[Sunbiz1]

I say leave it the way it is. Don't get rid of any teams and no more expansion teams.

If you really have to get rid of any teams then I would say Toronto and Minnesota.

I would also throw in a bonus by loading all of Miami's players on a rocket and sending them to the sun. I'm sure their late arriving, phony, bandwagon fans would never even notice they were gone.

Classic!
:clap:

 

[97Bulls]

Here are the latest attendance stats from the past season...

2010-2011 NBA Attendance - National Basketball Association - ESPN

Maybe New Orleans shouldn't be contracted, it seems they have had a lot of trouble with bad ownership, its been a mess down there.

Actually, the nba is running the hornets. And I've heard of groups trying to buy the team but the nba says no. For whatever reason

I really don't see why the hornets must be extracted. According to those numbers, they're around the middle of the pack. The league needs to just get their head out of their ass and allow a willing person or group of people buy the team and try to make them competitive.

 

[DCguy]

I think contraction would be a bad look for the NBA. They got a lot of flack for letting go workers right when the lockout started. Now contract teams and all the workers involved with those teams will be unemployed. People are sensitive about layoffs during these times. From that aspect, I think the leagues public perception will take a hit.

 

[houheffna]

I think contraction would be a bad look for the NBA. They got a lot of flack for letting go workers right when the lockout started. Now contract teams and all the workers involved with those teams will be unemployed. People are sensitive about layoffs during these times. From that aspect, I think the leagues public perception will take a hit.

On the contrary, first, the NBA mirrors society. People are getting laid off, massively. The country could possibly face another recession. Why WOULDN'T the NBA be affected and lay off workers?

And if you have a dispersal draft with 4-6 teams gone...you have some pretty good talent being moved from team to team and that could make a big difference in the league immediately. I can definitely see where that could generate excitement.

 

[houheffna]

Actually, the nba is running the hornets. And I've heard of groups trying to buy the team but the nba says no. For whatever reason

I really don't see why the hornets must be extracted. According to those numbers, they're around the middle of the pack. The league needs to just get their head out of their ass and allow a willing person or group of people buy the team and try to make them competitive.

The NBA running the team symbolized bad ownership that was down there, same situation as the Dodgers. But if you look closely at the numbers...attendance does not directly affect financial viability. Many of the teams on that list, most of the teams actually, can't turn a profit. And most likely the market can't handle increased ticket prices. And if you are not profitable, even if you are average in terms of sales...you most likely will go out of business eventually.

 

[Diddy1122]

Though I'm not opposed to contraction, people need to get out of this idea that "contraction is the cure". It's not. Laying off thousands of people is never good for anyone. Bad management is the reason the league is in the position it is now.

And please stop with this "greedy players" crap. This is not the players fault. They don't set the market. It's owners out-bidding each other that do. In some cases, owners (see Joe Johnson, Ben Gordon) outbid themselves. And they have handed out some ridiculously stupid contracts over the years. Did you know that Dan Gadzuric made over $7mill last year?