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Does anyone know the Bulls odds of actually getting the pick back?
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The absolute best case is 52% if they fall in the bottom 2 teams in the league by season's end. Their current odds are like 30%
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Haha what a dumpster fire. All hopes hinge on a guy with a bum knee who likely won’t play again
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Honest question, besides Wemby and Scoot Henderson, who is good in this draft anyway?
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No idea. I usually don’t start paying attention to prospects until closer to the draft….assuming the Bulls have a 1st round pick. Quite likely the pick will be #5 overall and that player will go onto become the next Michael Jordan
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The guy with the bum knee would also need to have a LeBron James type impact lol…Bulls are what, like the 11th seed or something right now? Few players in history propel a team from 7 games below .500 to legit contenders. Either way, anyone banking on lonzo coming back and contributing like he did pre-injury is a next level optimist to put it nicely. Dude still can’t even run and jump without pain. I’d be shocked if he ever came back fully healthy and in prime form, tbh
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Let’s not forget idt they have a second round pick the next 4 years. Several used in trades and one lost for tampering when signing the pg savior with a bum knee
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Keeps getting better and better. Honestly I don’t have any faith that AK would even get the pick right if they ended up with it. The PWill over Halliburton pick still stings
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I mean, 11 teams passed on Haliburton...they all done goofed I guess, but to me that decision ranks so much lower in pain value than some of the others.
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Does it? The Bulls could really use a PG like Halliburton. PG was arguably the Bulls biggest need too (and still is). Instead of drafting the younger and cheaper player, they have Lonzo 20 mil per year to be crippled. Halliburton is a monster and really making an impact in Indy. I think he was a much safer pick and Williams was a big time reach
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To me it doesn't hurt as bad as signing Lonzo then watching his career destroy itself in less than a season's time. It doesn't hurt as bad as trading 2 firsts for Vuc then watching as both of those end up being top 10 picks. To me Patrick is just an average disappointment by comparison. It was a high risk pick certainly, but Haliburton isn't fixing this team any more than Lonzo is, though at least I guess you could say blow it up and build around Haliburton.
You've made your love for Haliburton very clear, not that it's unwarranted as obviously he's turning out to be maybe the best player in his class this year (though Ant is also balling out), but it's not like we passed up a consensus top 5 pick reaching on Patrick.
Idk, missing on draft picks to me just doesn't give me those stinging pains of regret
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I’m in disbelief that Ball was this good.
Subtract 5 DeRozan miracles.
Lavine hasn’t been the same guy understandably.
It just feels like a Donovan problem with rotations so deep and changing that nobody including starters has a consistent gameplay role.
Without Ball we have 8 playable guards and no point guard.
Subtract 5 DeRozan miracles.
Lavine hasn’t been the same guy understandably.
It just feels like a Donovan problem with rotations so deep and changing that nobody including starters has a consistent gameplay role.
Without Ball we have 8 playable guards and no point guard.
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Fair enough. Halliburton aside, PWill doesn’t exactly lend any confidence in AK’s drafting ability. He said something after the draft that always stuck with me - He said something to the effect that he knew he was going to draft Williams a year prior to actually drafting him and that the decision was made for a long time before draft night. Covid probably played some part in that, but it also seems like he zeroed in on Williams prematurely and had his mind made up too soon. Would be very interesting to see how he would do with a top 4 pick if the Bulls get lucky. He seems to not really value picks though it wouldn’t surprise me if he traded it
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@Hawkeye would you like to take back your dislike? Looks like i was a little generous.
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Blow it up!
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I guess that's just the thing with drafting these high potential picks, not all of them realize that potential in 2-3 seasons. Every predraft analysis I could find had PWill as the guy oozing potential, but needing the right situation and the right development. He's still only 21 and I think he's not as bad as people make him out to be (though he's not been wowing anyone by any stretch). BD also has him just standing in the corner half the time spotting up for 3 which doesn't really lend itself to much offensive development (still shooting nearly 44% from 3 in that role though this year).
Idk if PWill ever really could've been like Kawhi (maybe OG Anunoby) but he's not really even in a position to be that. I just now wonder if we'll end up giving up on him after 4 years and see him pull a Lauri and go nuts in year 6 (at age 24 no less) somewhere else.
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Of course that’s what will happen, it’s the Bulls way. Conversely, if they extend him, he’ll find a way to regress.
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Though by that logic then, draft picks are truly inconsequential as they would never thrive here and only somewhere else. So might as well trade them away. MAYBE AK WAS ONTO SOMETHING
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Wasn’t applying any logic lol….More joking about the Bulls overall ineptitude for the past decade. Seems like nothing they really do is the right move but that’s mainly because they have bad management and decision makers. Clueless owner hires subpar GM/VP, GM/VP makes subpar FA and draft decisions and hires subpar coach, subpar coach gets questioned by max player (allegedly) and on and on it goes.
The good news for the handful of Bulls optimists left is that AK and BD will get at least another 2-3 years to show different results. Maybe things will be different. You just never know