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remember when this was a thing?
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The amount of times Cutler has thrown for more than 2 TD's while as a Bear - 16...16% of his games as a Bear have featured more than 2 TD's. You want to guess how many times he has thrown for 2+ TD's with 0 INT's. I'll save you the trouble, 6 times....that is 6% of his games as a Bear. Want to guess how many of those games he had 70%+ comp? 3 times....3% of his games as a Bear. And he has never thrown for over 300 yards with 3 or more TD's and 0 Ints. In his career, he has accomplished 300+ yards and 2 TD's with 0 Int's a total of 3 times. That is 2.2% of his career games...in comparison to Hoyer who has accomplished that feat 6 times in his career. That is 20.6% of the games Hoyer has started in.
So what gives you such confidence that 6 could have scored more than 2 TD's without giving up the ball?
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The eye test, obviously. Nerd.
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At this point...Cutler is a slightly more mobile version of Orton.
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Orton was a more intelligent player. so he had to armpunt to go deep. **** it, right?
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I supposed the Bear Organization is ok with the interceptions that Cutler had. They keep putting him on the field. They must expect and are ok with the risk reward game better than game management. I mean, I'd supposed the stats you gave the coaching staff knows, you think?
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I'd say enough is enough...due to him being on the sidelines.
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and there due to injury. Agree?
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No.
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No, he's there cause he's earned it
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The bad contract Emery gave him is the biggest factor these past 3 seasons...I think he would have been canned after the 2014 season if it weren't for the contract. And the fact Hoyer who is on his 5th team can come in and play efficiently has the coaching staff wondering whether they should stick with Hoyer for the rest of the season. You honestly can't be this blind, you have to see how this is a major problem with Cutler. A journeyman QB can come in and play at a level comparable or better than Cutler who is supposed to be the more talented and dynamic QB. And now the coaching stagg is considering benching Cutler for Hoyer, Brian "Fuckin" Hoyer. The fact that this is even being considered should raise an eyebrow to any fan.
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And the sad fact is this is the 2nd time it's happened. And the Justice for Jay crew can't come to the realization
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It's funny after McCown outplayed Cutler, the Jayciples kept saying it was a fluke because McCown has never played like that before and we couldn't expect him to play like that again. Now we have Hoyer outplaying Cutler and the same people are brushing it off again.
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Try typing in english next time.
As far as the opinion of the coaching staff- Trestman gave up on Cutler in year 2- to the point that he was willing to put that pile of shit Clausen on the field.
Fox was saddled with clausen and Cutler last year... but now that Fox actually has a viable backup I think Fox has seen enough out of Cutler as well.
I love how the Cutler nut huggers paint him as a victim- the reality is that on any other team across the league, this guy would have been replaced long ago. Cutler is the most fortunate player I can think of with the stars aligning to secure his place uncontested despite career long mediocrity.
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I don't think it's "stars aligning" for him, as much as it has been completely inept coaching staffs and management year after year. The picks given up in the trade secured his spot at first, then the ridiculous contract secured his spot again. Regardless, the fact of the matter is that he has been very fortunate to be a starting QB in this league for as long as he has. I don't see how that can be argued with. He's been given 93736 different chances, none of them have gone well.
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See, I call all of that the stars aligning in his favor- an offense hungry coach with a great d just wanted functional out of him and wasted 4 years trying to get it... then the unprecedented emery decision to say "hey, maybe he will step up his game if we pay him a kings ransom".
Roll all of that in with a family owned team that isnt keen on paying people to leave and you get a decade of suck.
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The only QB who has had more good fortune than Jay Cutler is Christian Ponder.
Is that his woman?
She looks to have a furry fetish.
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The sad part is that even with a QB playing like a top 10 QB the Bears still can't beat a really bad 1-3 team. It's almost as if the entire thing sucks and even with a new QB nothing will really change.
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Most likely, nothing will change at first. But the goal isn't to win a SB next year. It's to build a contender for years and years to come. And as far as team roster personnel goes, that starts with QB.
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I will say this as a guy who will always love Jay - The single greatest indictment of this org from top to bottom is the fact that I can't tell whether our team sucks because of the QB or the QB sucks because of the team.
Edit: To clarify, I think at this point we can all agree more or less on what Jay is (out of time). But I don't think we will ever be able to reach a consensus on what Jay could have been.