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Both those games were REALLY close, especially that 2nd one, but that was the 0-16 Lions year. I remember being at home on leave during my fifteen month Iraq tour and watching it at a girlfriend's house at the time. That's the game in which Orton got injured and Rex came in. Of course, Grossman looked impotent without Berrian as his deep threat out there that game and the next week's contest against Tennessee.
Kind of hard for a QB to win a game for a winless team you know.
I mixed up kitna (the christian) and orlovsky. Sue me you snarky dick