If you had to hurt your knee, the MCL is the lesser of the two!

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Often one hurts both, which means that you are screwed. With a partial tear of the MCL without ACL damage, some have made it back as early as 1 month. (ie Russell Westbrook) This is usually a 6-8 week injury, meaning Rose COULD be back as early as January. I'm no doctor, but that is consistent with google findings. The hard part with Rose will probably be mental.
 

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meniscus tears and MCL tears are two different things.

But yeah, meniscus isn't as bad as an ACL tear either.
 

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I would use a bat and go for the kneecap

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Often one hurts both, which means that you are screwed. With a partial tear of the MCL without ACL damage, some have made it back as early as 1 month. (ie Russell Westbrook) This is usually a 6-8 week injury, meaning Rose COULD be back as early as January. I'm no doctor, but that is consistent with google findings. The hard part with Rose will probably be mental.

LoL

Why sugarcoat the situation man?

Either way, its still a serious injury that requires surgery and alot of down time.

Funny how people are sugarcoating his injury now..... Kind of like someone getting there hand blown off by a fire cracker, and then saying, "well its okay, at least i still have my arm"..

:oprah:

This is fucked up plain and simple..... and theres nothing good about it. :(
 
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What I learned about torn MCL's, while recently watching my young son endure surgery & rehab, is that it's a grueling procedure. It may not be "as bad" as a torn ACL, but it's not a walk in the park.

D-Rose will be rehabbing from a torn right MCL, while also "recovering" from a recent surgically repaired left ACL tear.

Nothing should be expected of him this season.
 

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I garentee Rose will have Knee issues the rest of his career.
Plus theres millions of other kinds of injuries or body parts that can be broken.
Derrick will be injury prone his entire career. Period.

So what should the Bulls do with him?

Should they continue to try and build this team around Rose as the center piece and franchise player?
I think not.
A whole new vision and plan must unfold.
And a new alpha dog must rise in Chicago.
Derrick no longer is #1 on the Bulls.
And by no means am i degrading Rose in any way.
I really feel bad for the man and what hes about to have to deal with.

I only hope that The Bulls can find a new number 1 alpha dog to bring here.
And i hope Rose can psycologically cope with having to settle with being the number 2 guy on this team when that happens.
It is what it is.

Rose can still be a GOOD player again, but being in the top 5 player list in the league, not likely again.

Rose's ability to switch gears in hyperdrive with the quickness is what makes him special on the court.
If he looses that ability, then hes just another point guard like on Superman 2....When Superman went in the chamber to get his powers removed, he became Clark Kent permanatly.
Rose loosing that quick drive and step will just make him an average guy.
 

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I garentee Rose will have Knee issues the rest of his career.
Plus theres millions of other kinds of injuries or body parts that can be broken.
Derrick will be injury prone his entire career. Period.

So what should the Bulls do with him?

Should they continue to try and build this team around Rose as the center piece and franchise player?
I think not.
A whole new vision and plan must unfold.
And a new alpha dog must rise in Chicago.
Derrick no longer is #1 on the Bulls.
And by no means am i degrading Rose in any way.
I really feel bad for the man and what hes about to have to deal with.

I only hope that The Bulls can find a new number 1 alpha dog to bring here.
And i hope Rose can psycologically cope with having to settle with being the number 2 guy on this team when that happens.
It is what it is.

Rose can still be a GOOD player again, but being in the top 5 player list in the league, not likely again.

Rose's ability to switch gears in hyperdrive with the quickness is what makes him special on the court.
If he looses that ability, then hes just another point guard like on Superman 2....When Superman went in the chamber to get his powers removed, he became Clark Kent permanatly.
Rose loosing that quick drive and step will just make him an average guy.

this is only a 4-8 week deal, lets let the season play out. I think Deng could be affected, this increases liklihood we trade him and make future the priority.
 

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this is only a 4-8 week deal, lets let the season play out. I think Deng could be affected, this increases liklihood we trade him and make future the priority.

:oprah:

Yeah until Deng gets hurt too.
Well hes been playing hurt already anyway.
He will still be playing even if he has to be pushed around in a wheelchair.
 
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I tore both my meniscus and still go for hikes and runs. But it hurts like hell on some days, and I don't dare do anything strenuous without a brace.
 

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I tore both my meniscus and still go for hikes and runs. But it hurts like hell on some days, and I don't dare do anything strenuous without a brace.

did you have them taken out or repaired?
 

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Often one hurts both, which means that you are screwed. With a partial tear of the MCL without ACL damage, some have made it back as early as 1 month. (ie Russell Westbrook) This is usually a 6-8 week injury, meaning Rose COULD be back as early as January. I'm no doctor, but that is consistent with google findings. The hard part with Rose will probably be mental.

One hurts both b/c one favors the good knee subconsciously trying to protect the repaired knee...which is what happened to Rose.

Now he can't favor either leg, and those knees will always have cartilage issues.

Should have drafted Beasley...kidding of course.
 

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Terry Allen in the NFL had a huge year on 2 reconstructed knees...it's doable.....
 

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Terry Allen in the NFL had a huge year on 2 reconstructed knees...it's doable.....

But highly unlikely, the exception rather than the norm. The way Rose played, those knees took more than the usual amount of NBA abuse.

Guess God doesn't want Rose playing after all.

Couldn't help that thought, since it was his excuse for taking twice as long as Adrian Peterson the first go round.
 

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But highly unlikely, the exception rather than the norm. The way Rose played, those knees took more than the usual amount of NBA abuse.

Guess God doesn't want Rose playing after all.

Couldn't help that thought, since it was his excuse for taking twice as long as Adrian Peterson the first go round.
You're gonna talk about exceptions rather than the rule, but then bring up taking twice as long as Adrian Peterson? lol
 

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Rose MUST Change his game! SLOW DOWN! Use your quickness only in clutch moments like down the stretch of a close game and your team really needs you to make something happen. WORK ON YOUR JUMP SHOT not your damn VERTICAL LEAP! I did not like hearing about Vertical Leap and Dunking while on his way back from the 1st Knee Injury. Seek advice from someone like Chris Paul, a guy who had knee injuries but was smart enough to change this game, slow things down with the impressive crossovers and dunks and focused more on being a ALL AROUND PG instead of just a scorer

I still have faith that Rose will come back and be a STAR Player...IF and that is a big IF, he change his game and improve that jump shot and play LESS SELFISH! Sorry I love Rose but he was playing extremely selfish before he got injured, only 4 Assist a game? It was all about HIM getting it going and HIM trying to find his Offense instead of getting others involved and letting the game slowly come back to him. More IQ and Brains from Rose and less depending on Pure Athleticism
 

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You're gonna talk about exceptions rather than the rule, but then bring up taking twice as long as Adrian Peterson? lol

Is your reading comprehension level lacking?.

The man took twice the time, and still didn't rehab correctly. Had he done so, he would not have injured the good knee protecting the repaired. That's part of the rehab process.
 

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meniscus tears and MCL tears are two different things.

But yeah, meniscus isn't as bad as an ACL tear either.

Yeah, I was under the impression he tore his meniscus. Not sure why all the MCL talk. They're different things.

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Is your reading comprehension level lacking?.

The man took twice the time, and still didn't rehab correctly. Had he done so, he would not have injured the good knee protecting the repaired. That's part of the rehab process.
I'm not arguing the fact that he took a long time, I'm was just pointing out that Adrian Peterson came back much sooner than most. There's no need to randomly insult my ability to read.

You also have no idea that this injury is directly related to his ACL tear, that's pure speculation. He injured himself making a change of direction move, what does that have to do with protecting his other knee?
 

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I'm not arguing the fact that he took a long time, I'm was just pointing out that Adrian Peterson came back much sooner than most. There's no need to randomly insult my ability to read.

You also have no idea that this injury is directly related to his ACL tear, that's pure speculation. He injured himself making a change of direction move, what does that have to do with protecting his other knee?

My apologies, having a shitty Monday here...lol

I can speculate probably more than most b/c I've had the same ACL fully replaced. And it is mental, and I understand what the process requires. Patients(myself included)all tend to use their stronger side...without even thinking about it. The mind tells the body it is still injured, when it is not.

While this could certainly be speculation, the long rehab on an ACL repair tells me otherwise.
 

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My apologies, having a shitty Monday here...lol
We've all had our fair share of those. No hard feelings. :)

I can speculate probably more than most b/c I've had the same ACL fully replaced. And it is mental, and I understand what the process requires. Patients(myself included)all tend to use their stronger side...without even thinking about it. The mind tells the body it is still injured, when it is not.

While this could certainly be speculation, the long rehab on an ACL repair tells me otherwise.
That's a fair point. I only question it because when I watched Derrick play I saw the same level of explosiveness off of both legs. That is, at least athletically, he looked like the same Derrick Rose as before his injury. Of course, he could have been compensating by landing on his right leg a lot and so on and I could've missed it and there's a lot of behind the scenes stuff at practice that we don't get to see, so I'm by no means saying that your guess isn't a valid one. I guess to me it was just another freak injury that was more caused by the sudden change in direction than anything else. Your guess is as good as mine at this point.
 

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