IGT 1/2: Edmonton Oilers vs. Blackhawks

[Captain Iago]

Ehhh 50/50 on that. A backhand like that is brutal for a goaltender to read. A backhand in general is easily the toughest shot for a goaltender to read.

I've been a big Carcillo supporter, but that was just a boneheaded play.

Tough loss last night but that's how it goes. Crawford let in a weak goal (or two), Carcillo cost the Blackhawks 2 goals, the PowerPlay has been terrible lately, and Lepisto/Scott were out to lunch on the 3rd goal.

Regroup and get ready for a big game on Thursday.

Eager is hardly a Crosby on the backhand, though. Soft, Crow needs to be in front of those.

PP was atrocious, as you and others have stayed.

Wasn't the third goal by Sutton? I thought Scott had knocked Hall on his ass on the boards (which was fine) and Lepisto had another forward pinned near the front of the net (he did his job there). Sharp came over where he wasn't needed (late, maybe?) and opened up that ice for Sutton, which Stalberg didn't have time to cut off.

Just going off memory so I might be wrong, but I can't pin that goal on the two defensemen.

 

[tbo41fan]

Lepisto didnt cover his man...thats why Sutton was so wide open if I remember correctly

 

[HawkWriter]

Eager is hardly a Crosby on the backhand, though. Soft, Crow needs to be in front of those.

PP was atrocious, as you and others have stayed.

Wasn't the third goal by Sutton? I thought Scott had knocked Hall on his ass on the boards (which was fine) and Lepisto had another forward pinned near the front of the net (he did his job there). Sharp came over where he wasn't needed (late, maybe?) and opened up that ice for Sutton, which Stalberg didn't have time to cut off.

Just going off memory so I might be wrong, but I can't pin that goal on the two defensemen.

Doesn't matter if Eager isn't Crosby on the backhand...still was a good backhand and the goalie usually can't react quickly to the backhand. Crawford would probably like that one back, but I wouldn't say it was an absolutely terrible goal. If that was a Blackhawk who shot it, I am guessing most would say it was a snipe on the backhand and not a weak goal. Eager has some definite skill, why he was drafted where he was, and he showed it there.

Scott took the guy to the boards with his stick in the air and it was an ineffective check (like many he throws) because he didn't take the play away with his check. Lepisto was covering a forward by himself to start, but the forward goes behind the net and Lepisto is on the far post, by himself. No reason for Lepisto to be there and he needs to stop in front of the net. Sharp/Stalberg couldn't get back to get Sutton, but there should have been no pass (Scott) and there should have been no reception of the pass (Lepisto) if the Blackhawks dmen were anyone else but our two worst Dmen on the roster (in my opinion)

 

[Everyday I'm Byfuglien]

I'm sticking with it being a shitty goal,but more than the physical motion of the puck getting past Crawford, its the fact that it was the back breaking goal in the game. It was Crawford failing to make the crucial save even though he had made a few decent ons earlier in the game... the nice breakaway. Stop for example.

Everyone can say Carcillo lost the game for the Hawks, but Crawford didn't win it for them.

 

[southern_cross_116]

Lepisto covered his man -it was the streaking left winger ( by looking at the video), and he go eliminated -it was the trailer coming straight down the slot.

If I were in the same spot as Stalberg was I would have gone for the stick lift check (although I guess that is dicier these days -as I think technically they call hooking on that sometimes?).

It was the forward with Scott over to the right side along the boards that is what caused that open space in the middle.

In other words 2 guys on one guy still couldn't stop a centering pass -- if it was just Scott along, then I guess you could blame Scott- but in this case the forward over there (I guess you are saying it was Sharp -I couldn't make out the number -as I have to run it on a pretty low res in order to see the play ... ) That guy imo is the guy who blew the coverage.

---I don't know now if Carcillo did lose it 0but the call he got did I guess.

---You also expect goalies to stop unscreened shots (backhands included) from the faceoff circle. Plus, Seabrook and Keith were on the ice - those guys are supposed to be a little better than that on the rush.

--- One other note, on the Oiler 3rd and 4th goals -both were caused by breakdowns in the Hawks' attempt to break into the offensive zone -it was the counter that ended up as goals against - which is pretty sloppy play.

 

[Capt. Serious]

Well anytime you give up a goal to Andy Sutton, you deserve to lose.

 

[southern_cross_116]

You let the guy go - then you are giving a guy an open shot right in the slot... prime scoring position...

but the fact is - is that both of those goals came off of stuffed pentration attempts, and that was pretty interesting in itself. It nearly validates the dump and chase, dig it out of the corner method I remembered hating watching - I suppose you need corner guys for that though.