Is Mooney a #1 WR?

[dabears70]

But then stumped for Toney.

We have a angry mod folks. Hahaha

 

[bamainatlanta]

We have an angry mod folks. Hahaha

Pointing out your Toney simping isn’t angry

 

[dabears70]

Pointing out your Toney simping isn’t angry

You coming at me for weeks now with no good reason that you've given, and i'm sure you won't, and @ing me in multiple threads that i wasn't even involved in kinda puts you out there that you have an issue with me and easily get angry whenever i reply back to your senseless shots at me.

You and your boy remy should team up and find these posts with me simping for Toney that you both keep accusing me of. I said he's dynamic with the ball in his hands.

Give a guy a mod job and he just can't handle the power it gives him. Sad.

 

[ThatGuyRyan]

You also love Toney so what's your point?

Drop-darius ?

 

[remydat]

So let's get this straight you make the comment that Mooney being good is dependent on if Fields would be good, I poke fun of you for that a little, and rather then just ignore it after I said I don't really care you go full vortex

You start with blaming the injury, I prove that wrong and now you are literally blaming the drop off on... Fields playing bad.. the one thing you are trying to vortex out of lol

@mecha only ass Remy is kicking is his own

Also Remy should we break down Mooney numbers for the games that Fields played vs not in his 1000 yards season? Remember that was one of my arguments on how much lower his production was with Fields vs not fields? I probably could find that post if you want to look extra stupid..

I'm going to say it again nobody has a crystal ball so you being wrong with a prediction does not make you look stupid, this vortex sure does

Read post 104 again jackass. The first part of the post is to Dabears and it already includes the fact Fields struggled to start the year. So I started by noting Fields struggles. I assumed you were smart enough to read that response as well since it is literally in the exact same post as my response to you.

And no it doesnt mean it is Fields fault. Fields and Mooney did not play a full season together. If they had actually played a full season together and Mooney looked great but Fields was still struggling then it would be Fields fault.

However we never saw how Mooney and Fields would play over a full season because of the injury so the injury is the primary cause. There are always ebbs and flows to a season. My comment was about how Mooney would fare over an entire season not a season cut short by a serious injury.

 

[ThatGuyRyan]

Man I had high hopes for Mooney. I thought maybe he was still coming back from that ankle injury, that could explain some of his receiving production but that doesn't explain his effort. Multiple reports of teammates calling him out I guess are coming out after this last game.

I did have him as a high end WR2 after that 1k yard season, time to move on it seems. I feel like he could go to another team and put up respectable numbers 800-900 yards / 3-4 TDs.

 

[remydat]

You coming at me for weeks now with no good reason that you've given, and i'm sure you won't, and @ing me in multiple threads that i wasn't even involved in kinda puts you out there that you have an issue with me and easily get angry whenever i reply back to your senseless shots at me.

You and your boy remy should team up and find these posts with me simping for Toney that you both keep accusing me of. I said he's dynamic with the ball in his hands.

Give a guy a mod job and he just can't handle the power it gives him. Sad.

You said you would have traded a 3rd for him. He is so dynamic with his 169 yards receiving despite playing with the GOAT QB who is desparate for a WR to emerge.

 

[dbldrew]

Read post 104 again jackass. The first part of the post is to Dabears and it already includes the fact Fields struggled to start the year. So I started by noting Fields struggles. I assumed you were smart enough to read that response as well since it is literally in the exact same post as my response to you.

And no it doesnt mean it is Fields fault. Fields and Mooney did not play a full season together. If they had actually played a full season together and Mooney looked great but Fields was still struggling then it would be Fields fault.

However we never saw how Mooney and Fields would play over a full season because of the injury so the injury is the primary cause. There are always ebbs and flows to a season. My comment was about how Mooney would fare over an entire season not a season cut short by a serious injury.

Did you already forget that the reason I quoted you? It was about me finding your caveat that Mooney playing well is predicated on Fields being good.

That's funny to me because I made that argument several times and you have been on the opposite end of that argument.

You are in a real pickle here aren't you? Admit you where wrong about Mooney (something you don't want to do) or blame Fields for his problems (also something you don't want to do)

And you trying to skirt your caveat saying that Fields had a slow start and everything was fine after that does not work..

Remember the threshold for Mooney in his 1055 yard season was 80ypg.. that's the ypg he averaged when Fields was NOT throwing him the ball. (Yeah I found my post about it)

But the good news Remy is that makes you actually correct that Fields is the reason for his decline! Isn't that great news? You are correct!

 

[MadOne 77]

Mooney is a case of how bad this roster was/is . He was a 5th roundeer that looked good because we had no talent. He never was a 1. Now we see his true worth,Mooney cashed out when we brought in Moore. He got but hurt and hasn't performed since. At this point he's a good 3rd WR. If nothing else after seeing his block on that 4th down scramble and then on the bench laughing it up. Kinda threw in the Mooney towel for me he doesn't care about yhe team.

 

[remydat]

Did you already forget that the reason I quoted you? It was about me finding your caveat that Mooney playing well is predicated on Fields being good.

That's funny to me because I made that argument several times and you have been on the opposite end of that argument.

You are in a real pickle here aren't you? Admit you where wrong about Mooney (something you don't want to do) or blame Fields for his problems (also something you don't want to do)

And you trying to skirt your caveat saying that Fields had a slow start and everything was fine after that does not work..

Remember the threshold for Mooney in his 1055 yard season was 80ypg.. that's the ypg he averaged when Fields was NOT throwing him the ball. (Yeah I found my post about it)

But the good news Remy is that makes you actually correct that Fields is the reason for his decline! Isn't that great news? You are correct!

They did not play a full season together due to injury so your point is stupid. My comments were predicated on a full season together.

Your threshold is also stupid. I made the comment not you. You cant take something I said based on my assumptions and then apply your assumptions to them. You and I are two different people and I dont make comments based on your stupid way of thinking about things. So no I didnt assume when making the comment that the threshold was based on Mooney's games with Dalton because I am not a stupid poster with an axe to grind regarding Fields.

You are literally trying to revise history by taking comments made by me almost 2 years ago and then applying your logic to them instead of mine as if I had a crystal ball back then that predicted how stupid you would be in 2023 and incorporated that stupidity into my my original comments.

 

[iueyedoc]

Does your gas pedal include coming back to the football on a scramble drill, blocking for QB runs or catching game winning balls in your lap?

 

[dbldrew]

They did not play a full season together due to injury so your point is stupid. My comments were predicated on a full season together.

Your threshold is also stupid. I made the comment not you. You cant take something I said based on my assumptions and then apply your assumptions to them. You and I are two different people and I dont make comments based on your stupid way of thinking about things. So no I didnt assume when making the comment that the threshold was based on Mooney's games with Dalton because I am not a stupid poster with an axe to grind regarding Fields.

You are literally trying to revise history by taking comments made by me almost 2 years ago and then applying your logic to them instead of mine as if I had a crystal ball back then that predicted how stupid you would be in 2023 and incorporated that stupidity into my my original comments.

The fact that I'm talking yards per game and not total yards in a season means that your "didnt play a whole season" argument is fucking stupid

and yes you did make the comment lets look at it to refresh your memory..

You have guys that would be a No 1 in any offense. He is a No 1 in right O and right QB. Whetherhe really becomes a No 1 is dependent on whether Fields can take a Mahomes like step abd consistently find him downfield so that it opens up things underneath.

So you are saying that Mooney is a #1 in the right O and right QB. And whether he becomes a #1 for the Bears is dependent on if fields takes a "Mahomes" like step.. now Remy did fields take a "mahomes" like step? Yes or NO?

I really put you in a pickle here again didnt I?

If you answer YES you show the world how fucking stupid you are

if you answer NO you show the world that I was correct and it is the fault of Fields and your vortex is making you look fucking stupid again

so which is it?

should of just accepted me saying i was just poking fun a little bit and walked away when I said I really didnt care

 

[remydat]

The fact that I'm talking yards per game and not total yards in a season means that your "didnt play a whole season" argument is fucking stupid

and yes you did make the comment lets look at it to refresh your memory..



So you are saying that Mooney is a #1 in the right O and right QB. And whether he becomes a #1 for the Bears is dependent on if fields takes a "Mahomes" like step.. now Remy did fields take a "mahomes" like step? Yes or NO?

I really put you in a pickle here again didnt I?

If you answer YES you show the world how fucking stupid you are

if you answer NO you show the world that I was correct and it is the fault of Fields and your vortex is making you look fucking stupid again

so which is it?

should of just accepted me saying i was just poking fun a little bit and walked away when I said I really didnt care

You are using per game averages in small sample sizes which is something I was not doing when I made the comment. I did not make the comment based on his stats with Dalton vs Fields. I made the comment based on his overall performance inclusive of his stats but more importantly the skill set he exhibited. You reducing it to just stats in 6 vs 10 games is just stupid. No NFL evaluator judges a player just on raw stats like yards per game. This should be obvious.

Fields did not take a Mahomes like step but Mooney got injured so it is a moot point. Mooney no longer has the explosion and suddeness he had when I observed him in 2021 and that has nothing to do with Fields. What was clear to me is after some early struggles, Mooney was producing at a 1k yard pace. Maybe he has some big games to close the year or maybe he doesnt. I dont know because he got injured so again the injury is the reason he didnt take the next step in 2022. I dont have enough info to blame it on Fields because their season together was cut short. The fact you cant grasp this distinction is astounding.

 

[dabears70]

You said you would have traded a 3rd for him. He is so dynamic with his 169 yards receiving despite playing with the GOAT QB who is desparate for a WR to emerge.

I don't remember saying that but i guess i could have because that was when i still had faith that he would be as good as he was when at Florida and he showed a little with the Giants when he was actually healthy.

You want to talk about Claypool and how you compare Mooney to Tyreke Hill?

 

[dbldrew]

You are using per game averages in small sample sizes which is something I was not doing when I made the comment. I did not make the comment based on his stats with Dalton vs Fields. I made the comment based on his overall performance inclusive of his stats but more importantly the skill set he exhibited. You reducing it to just stats in 6 vs 10 games is just stupid. No NFL evaluator judges a player just on raw stats like yards per game. This should be obvious.

Fields did not take a Mahomes like step but Mooney got injured so it is a moot point. Mooney no longer has the explosion and suddeness he had when I observed him in 2021 and that has nothing to do with Fields. What was clear to me is after some early struggles, Mooney was producing at a 1k yard pace. Maybe he has some big games to close the year or maybe he doesnt. I dont know because he got injured so again the injury is the reason he didnt take the next step in 2022. I dont have enough info to blame it on Fields because their season together was cut short. The fact you cant grasp this distinction is astounding.

I'm using per game average because it ruins your excuse making.

And you are correct that Fields did not take a Mahomes like step and unfortunately for you, your caveat did not list a full season as the body of work so it is not moot. regardless 12 games is not a small sample size, I mean you have had no problem judging Trubisky and he has NEVER had a full 17 game season. Are you going to apply your ridiculously stupid evaluation criteria to Peterman or any other player or is this just used when your vortex backs you into a corner?

 

[remydat]

I don't remember saying that but i guess i could have because that was when i still had faith that he would be as good as he was when at Florida and he showed a little with the Giants when he was actually healthy.

You want to talk about Claypool and how you compare Mooney to Tyreke Hill?

The Claypool trade sucked.

I stand by the point that Mooney's first 2 years compare to Hill's. Nothing that happened in 2022 or 2023 changes whether his numbers his first 2 years compares to Hills first 2 years nor that that mean he is as good as Hill in the years Hill actually blew up. By contrast you said the following.

Chiefs just traded for their next T.Hill getting K.Toney for a 3rd and a 6th.

Look at this jackass. You trying to call me out for comparing Mooney's first two years to Hill's when you flat out claimed that the Chiefs traded for there next Hill trading for Toney.