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TL1961

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LOL

"Hey, now that we're up 4 in extra innings, I think I will use the power hitter I kept on the bench in the 9th, 10th, 11th......"

just teasing you, Joe.

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Technically it Sunday in NewYork..
So they can use the rest of the bullpen now
LMAO

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I'm surprise noone come up with some kind of steel toe type shoe for catchers

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  1. Chicago Blackhawks
6.11 AM i can happily go to sleep
 

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1 game back in the loss column, 3rd best record in the NL. I’ll take that for now. Keep it coming boys.
 

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It really comes down to the pitching. This team can score. It just went up against a eliete arm.

Montgomery is really making a statement right now IMO. Chatwood needs to step it up.
 

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1 game back in the loss column, 3rd best record in the NL. I’ll take that for now. Keep it coming boys.
1st in AVG, 1st in Runs, 2nd in ERA. Outside of Milwaukee doing outrageously better against the NL West than the rest of the NL Central teams, the Cubs would be large and in charge.
 

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They have been "disappointing", and now have the 3rd best record in the NL with the top run differential.

Such a difference seeing them separate themselves from that .500 mark. It is frustrating to see them let games get away when they seem to be too nonchalant about grinding out the W. But that is because they're good enough to win any time they take the field.

Last night's failure to score once deGrom was out was frustrating, too. But thanks to great performances by Monty, Farrell, and Wilson (who had 4 K's in 1 1/3rd in a critical spot) was a real pick-me-up. Spot starter vs one of NL's best and got the W.

6 of 7, with a 2-1 loss.

Let's get this one today and put that .500 mark in the rear view mirror for good. Let's start separating from St Louis, which is still hanging around thanks to the Pirates and Reds.
 

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Since Heyward came back from that concussion he's hitting .372/.404/.512 with a 6.4%/6.4% bb/k rate 147 wRC+. BABIP if you're curious is .390. What's interesting is that those numbers have come in a some what different way to the rest of his season. His batted ball data looks like this: 19.5% line drive 46.3% ground ball 34.1% fly ball 14.3% infield fly. His contact profile looks like 19.5%/51.2%/29.3% for soft/med/hard. It's only 47 PAs so not a great sample. But as a contrast to that his season numbers for contact are 17.7 % LD 39.5 % GB 42.7 % FB 18.9 % IFFB and his profile is 23.2 %/43.2 %/33.6 % soft/med/hard.

The numbers post concussion are more in line with what he has done for his career in terms of gb/fb rate. I'm not sure I have answers here but the two things that come to mind are A) was the early season data intentional(I think it was but idk) and B) is this post concussion data small sample or is he reverting some of what he may have done prior? For that second question, I wonder a bit if it's not some what natural. My working theory for pre-concussion numbers was he was hitting the ball too far under leading to lots more fly balls with good power but high fly balls that stay in the park aren't really great even if they have really high exit velocity. A natural thought would be to some what over correct and hit more ground balls.

What I will say is this, even if the numbers are returning to pre-2018 look, they still are some what different. That 29.3% hard contact rate is up quite a bit vs 25.5% in 2017 and 26.4% in 2016. Season in that range for him were 2015 with STL(29.1%), 2013 with ATL(29.7%) and 2010 and 2012 at 38.8% and 34.5%. For reference here, he hit .293/.359/.439 in 15 with STL. He hit .254/.349/.427 in 13 with ATL and .269/.335/.479 and .277/.393/.456 in 12 and 10. Those 4 years were 121 wRC+, 120, 121, and 134.

So while I was a bit more encouraged with the higher fly ball rate leading to even better numbers, as long as he maintains this sort of hard hit rate he's likely to be a pretty good hitter by the end of the year. I would also add that his K rate is really interesting. He's always been good there comparative to MLB average but he's on another level recently. Just to throw up some comparisons here, if we use those same 4 years of 10, 12, 13, and 15 his k rates were 20.5%, 23.3%, 16.6% and 14.8%. For the season as a whole he's at 11.3% but as mentioned that's dropped even further to 6.4% since returning from a concussion. We're legitimately getting to the point where you can start talking about him potentially leading the league in k rate. Last year the best qualified player was Joe Panik at 9.4%. Other names under 11.5% were Justin Turner(10.3%), Andrelton Simmons(10.4%), Jose Ramirez(10.7%), Yulieski Gurriel(11.0%), Mookie Betts(11.1%), and Melky Cabrera(11.1%). In 2018 he doesn't have qualified PAs yet but his 11.3% k rate would be 9th in the league right now.
 

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It really comes down to the pitching. This team can score. It just went up against a eliete arm.

Montgomery is really making a statement right now IMO. Chatwood needs to step it up.

too bad Theo did not get the message before not even giving him a shot by getting Chatwood and Darvish.
 

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Interesting Joe is going with Happ at 1B today. Kinda like him giving Rizzo/Bryant some time off when possible.
 

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Interesting Joe is going with Happ at 1B today. Kinda like him giving Rizzo/Bryant some time off when possible.

Almora CF
Heyward RF
Baez 3B
Willson C
Happ 1B
Schwarber LF
Addison SS
LaStella 2b
Lester.

So much for Joe going with the all defensive lineup when Lester is pitching.

I am just happy neither happ or Lastella are playing third.
 

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too bad Theo did not get the message before not even giving him a shot by getting Chatwood and Darvish.

Moves like that happen on teams like SDP. Looking for something out of nothing. A team like the Cubs look to proven guys.

Montgomery:
2017: 5-5 4.15 Starter. 2-3 2.49 ERA reliever.
2016: 1-1 3.18 Starter 2-3 2.15 Relief
2015: 4-6 4.60 ERA starter

Going into it he had a better history in the pen but was good enough to spot start.
2018: Relief: 0-1 5.33 ERA Start: 1-0 0.77 ERA.

This is the first time it has flipped. So you can not blame Theo for Mike's performance. Theo just reacts to the data given.
 

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It really comes down to the pitching. This team can score. It just went up against a eliete arm.

Montgomery is really making a statement right now IMO. Chatwood needs to step it up.
They got 1 off him

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Almora CF
Heyward RF
Baez 3B
Willson C
Happ 1B
Schwarber LF
Addison SS
LaStella 2b
Lester.

So much for Joe going with the all defensive lineup when Lester is pitching.

I am just happy neither happ or Lastella are playing third.

D wise you could argue Baez is better than Bryant. I get why they gave Bryant the Rizzo the day off. 2 days off in a row.
 

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Almora CF
Heyward RF
Baez 3B
Willson C
Happ 1B
Schwarber LF
Addison SS
LaStella 2b
Lester.

So much for Joe going with the all defensive lineup when Lester is pitching.

I am just happy neither happ or Lastella are playing third.

They’ve won the series, the game is gravy so they’re experimenting with their best pitcher on the mound and getting two of the key players 2 full days of rest. There is absolutely nothing not to like about this lineup. Oh, and they still have a chance to win the game.
 

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Considering that he came in with a sub 2 ERA that is not shocking.
Maybe I read your post wrong when you said they could score and they went up against an elite arm...
Thinking you were talking about the 7 runs in his start

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Sitting both Rizzo and Bryant in the same game.

Meanwhile, after 14 innings behind the plate, Contreras plays again. :)

Seems like a strange lineup, but I think they'll score a decent amount today. Go get 'em, Jon!
 

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