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Rizzo was due!!!!!!!!! 4-3 Cubs
 

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Lester battled today. Hot with wind blowing out. Ill take it. Lets get some runs and shut them down.
 

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Too lazy to look for stats on this but it just seems to me that Lester is better at night than day games.
 

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This is so damn sloppy. Wtf Baez.
 

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Fly the W. Sing the song!
 

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Russell-Bote-Almora - combined 1 for 9, with 7Ks and an infield hit. :)

But a W is a W.

That's why Maddon makes a barrel of money while winning 60% of his games and we post on a sports forum. It's something he has always done....keep everyone involved where every player feels he means something. The thing is.....if those three you mentioned went 6 for 9 and the Cubs lost....would anyone care? Would anyone even notice?
 

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That's why Maddon makes a barrel of money while winning 60% of his games and we post on a sports forum. It's something he has always done....keep everyone involved where every player feels he means something. The thing is.....if those three you mentioned went 6 for 9 and the Cubs lost....would anyone care? Would anyone even notice?
I am not sure I follow. (And I am not terribly upset that he had them all in there. Just puzzled.)

They did not win because he played them. They won in spite of that. An error was the difference.

Was Joe counting on that?

At this point, Bote cannot even put the ball in play, and he is screwing up defensively. Why are we worried about "making him feel he means something"?

I mean...it's not that I don't care, or that I don't want him to rebound. But playing him is not in the team's best interests right now, even if we do want him to bounce back.
 
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When you have a CF, 2B, and a catcher all hitting less that a 100 wRC+ you really can't expect much run support for your starter.

The weather suggested a power line up and the runs except that shit fest 8th were all by the HR.

So no I don't agree with the pre-set non sense. I suggest common sense. You are going against a ace level pitcher and your ace is in then you know runs are hard to come by and a line up like this makes perfect sense to keep the D intact.

But on a day like today that a mistake is more likely going into the seats you want to play to those conditions. Great D is negated by the long ball. But sacrificing O in those games is stupid. The pitcher makes a mistake and the struggling O can not make it up.

I really didn't see much of anything that made a arguement the other way. Ball bounces off 2B. Runner out runs Russell's throw. And so on. Really no justification for it.
 

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I am not sure I follow. (And I am not terribly upset that he had them all in there. Just puzzled.)

They did not win because he played them. They won in spite of that. An error was the difference.

Was Joe counting on that?

At this point, Bote cannot even put the ball in play, and he is screwing up defensively. Why are we worried about "making him feel he means something"?

I mean...it's not that I don't care, or that I don't want him to rebound. But playing him is not in the team's best interests right now, even if we do want him to bounce back.

Does it make a difference? They won a game....a guy who they kind of need, got another chance to snap out of it. Sure, he didn't do it but there's never been a rhyme or reason to this game. He could bounce back tomorrow, next week or next year but he won't do it as a spectator...he has to play. It's not like he's logging Baez or Rizzo playing time....he still sits some. The only guys I really don't care to see anymore are Descalso and Brach.....it sucks that their contracts are probably the only thing between them and a DFA.
 

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Also to add. I really would like to see them get someone who can hit 3 digets. I was watching the SD feed and they said Strop is sitting on his slider more than his fastball. He topped out at 96 with his 2 seem.

But having someone who just throws gas in the 8th.
 

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Does it make a difference? They won a game....a guy who they kind of need, got another chance to snap out of it. Sure, he didn't do it but there's never been a rhyme or reason to this game. He could bounce back tomorrow, next week or next year but he won't do it as a spectator...he has to play. It's not like he's logging Baez or Rizzo playing time....he still sits some. The only guys I really don't care to see anymore are Descalso and Brach.....it sucks that their contracts are probably the only thing between them and a DFA.


Russell was a non factor.

Almora scored a run and with the conditions you know the ball is going to carry. I can see that justifiable. The catcher choice most likely was on Joe and Jon. He has not worked with VC.
 

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Russell was a non factor.

Almora scored a run and with the conditions you know the ball is going to carry. I can see that justifiable. The catcher choice most likely was on Joe and Jon. He has not worked with VC.

We weren't talking about Russell, it was Bote. For good reason as in lack of production, TL has been saying this for awhile. My only point is that Joe tries to keep everyone involved and Bote won't get back to being Bote riding the pines.
 

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I am not sure I follow. (And I am not terribly upset that he had them all in there. Just puzzled.)

They did not win because he played them. They won in spite of that. An error was the difference.

Was Joe counting on that?

At this point, Bote cannot even put the ball in play, and he is screwing up defensively. Why are we worried about "making him feel he means something"?

I mean...it's not that I don't care, or that I don't want him to rebound. But playing him is not in the team's best interests right now, even if we do want him to bounce back.

Those 3 are playing like scrubs. I think the point is that we won with them in the game. Consider whomever didnt play more rested.
I don't know man?They are collectively winning.
 

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We weren't talking about Russell, it was Bote. For good reason as in lack of production, TL has been saying this for awhile. My only point is that Joe tries to keep everyone involved and Bote won't get back to being Bote riding the pines.
I understand getting a lot of guys playing time, and that's Joe's M.O. And he has been successful, and I am OK with him in the macro. Some days, in the micro, it seems frustrating. Our goal is not to split time evenly. Our goal is to win the division first, and then the WS.

Bote may not get better riding the pine, but the team may be better if he does.
 

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