Jalon Walker, Banks, and Warren are all available at pick 10...

Jalon Walker, Banks, and Warren are all available at pick 10

  • Walker, EDGE

    Votes: 15 22.7%
  • Banks, OT/OG

    Votes: 37 56.1%
  • Warren, TE

    Votes: 14 21.2%

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I get that, but I'm still trying to drive the point home that the 10th pick in the draft isn't too early either, for a player that's going to give you the kind of production that I believe Egbuka is going to provide.

Jaxon Smith-Njigba played the same roll as Egbuka in that Ohio State offense and he went 20th to the Seattle in what I think was a stronger draft class, and I believe that Egbuka is a better player than Njigba when he was drafted. Noticeably better, IMO.

Whether fans like it or not Ben Johnson is going to run alot of quick one read ball in the passing game and the SLOT is going to be the first read on a significant number of passing plays

I don't understand how a player like Egbuka is considered a reach while many of the same people believe that Tyler Warren is a first round talent. WTF are people watching out on the field when they make these proclamations?

When I see draft beatniks across the media/social media give their assessments on these players almost every one of them say the same things about the same players verbatim. No player in the draft is that consistent for better or worse across tens, if not hundreds of various "analysts". Most of these analysts arent even looking at these players.

Warren is going to be a solid player but in no way do I see a top 10 talent. I don't believe that Warren will be even marginally better than Elijah Arroyo who is probably going to go in round 2. I'd really rather have a true FLEX TE like Oronde Gadsden at the end of day 2 or early day 3.

Colston Loveland is another TE that's probably going to get picked in round 1 and outside of his blocking ability I have no idea why. He runs his routes like a vending machine and makes Cole Kmet look like Carl Lewis. You are going to have to scheme a TE like Loveland open at the pro level much like Harbaugh did at Michigan. He isn't going to separate from any pro level LBs or DBs in man coverage and those windows between the zones are going to close up alot quicker.

I do somewhat agree with a broad assessment that this draft has a lot of very good players but not many great ones. However I do strongly believe that Egbuka will end up going down as one the handful of great players with great production that comes out of this draft class as long as his career isn't derailed by injuries. Especially if he does end up in an offense like Johnson ran up un Detroit.
You want the bears to pick a WR in the first round?
 

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He's an average LT who gets bullrushed constantly AND coming off a broken ankle.

CCS...Let's draft a RB or TE!!!
Or maybe another average OT (assuming the top OTs will be drafted before the Bears pick) or even a player who must switch position to LT? As opposed to a great RB or TE?
 

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He's an average LT who gets bullrushed constantly AND coming off a broken ankle.

CCS...Let's draft a RB or TE!!!
So switch out an avg LT with experience with quite possibly the 3rd OT taken in the top #10? On top of that the rookie lineman will probably need to play a position that he didn’t play in college? No thanks.
 

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Membou would make my day. Especially if they take him to spearhead the running game from the RT position.

I think Darnell Wright would play better at LT than anyone from this class if Johnson would be willing to slide him over.

No one really projects as a LT other than maybe Membou. I still think you can try banks there and shuffle the line if he sucks. He will have to beat out jones to be a starter. If he isn’t, he becomes a project and our 6th olinemen. I think it’s vital that we address the LT position in this draft, unless we think Jones or Kiran is the answer long term.

Having said that, I wouldn’t be upset at any pick they made at this point, as long as it’s not terrible. If it’s oline, DT, Edge, or RB, I’ll be happy.

He's an average LT who gets bullrushed constantly AND coming off a broken ankle.

CCS...Let's draft a RB or TE!!!
This can not be the solution with the 10th F'n pick. 10th pick better be a stud at the position he is expected to be. Not a move the RT to LT... Not if he can't do it move him to back up guard. Take those ideas into day 2 or 3. Please do not reach with a pick 10. Pick 10 should be able to start at his position and be damn solid doing it.

Give me a pick at 10 that is a plug in, better than what we have.
 

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I changed from Walker to Warren. The TJ Edwards extension was weird and now I don't see taking Walker as an absolute backup player at 10.

Banks makes some sense but I think the Bears will roll with Amegadjie or Jones so again another backup that might be a guard at 10...

This leaves Warren
 

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I changed from Walker to Warren. The TJ Edwards extension was weird and now I don't see taking Walker as an absolute backup player at 10.

Banks makes some sense but I think the Bears will roll with Amegadjie or Jones so again another backup that might be a guard at 10...

This leaves Warren

So we cant take a backup linebacker who would still play sam/edge snaps, but we can take a backup #2 TE instead at #10.


Makes Cents.
 
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So we cant take a backup linebacker who would still play sam/edge snaps, but we can take a backup #2 TE instead at #10.


Makes Cents.
Johnson runs a LOT of 12 personal. Like 2nd most in the league last year. That 2nd TE will end up basically a starter.
 

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So we cant take a backup linebacker who would still play sam/edge snaps, but we can take a backup #2 TE instead at #10.


Makes Cents.
One day... you might realize that two TE's exist. Kinda like the Bears paying Everett last season AND having Kmet....

The results may have failed because Everett was terrible, that doesn't mean that two TE's can't be used.
 

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So switch out an avg LT with experience with quite possibly the 3rd OT taken in the top #10? On top of that the rookie lineman will probably need to play a position that he didn’t play in college? No thanks.

Are you willing to pay him 22-25 million per after this season?
 

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I believe the first pick should be an OT.

Jones is average (at best) and is coming off an injury.

The backup to Jones is a disaster.

Bears need a legit NFL tackle.
Same page... my only problem is that it's so damn bleak at LT. It's hard to have the level of confidence you should have with the 10th overall pick.
 

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I was Banks but now I want Walker lol. This draft is wide open I have no idea what is going to happen other than Cam Ward at #1.

My heart wants Jeanty though. I have fallen into that trap I’m gunna be excited if he gets picked at 10 by the Bears.

I have a feeling Graham, Campbell, and Jeanty will be sitting there at 10 and I honestly have no idea what they will do in that scenario.
 

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I was Banks but now I want Walker lol. This draft is wide open I have no idea what is going to happen other than Cam Ward at #1.

My heart wants Jeanty though. I have fallen into that trap I’m gunna be excited if he gets picked at 10 by the Bears.

I have a feeling Graham, Campbell, and Jeanty will be sitting there at 10 and I honestly have no idea what they will do in that scenario.
I agree with pretty much all of this, except I think Graham has a better chance of not being there there at 10. He is probably one player I would trade up for realistically
 

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I agree with pretty much all of this, except I think Graham has a better chance of not being there there at 10. He is probably one player I would trade up for realistically

I would only trade up for Carter if that opportunity presented itself. But I am not going to be sad if they go get Graham by any means.
 

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No one really projects as a LT other than maybe Membou. I still think you can try banks there and shuffle the line if he sucks. He will have to beat out jones to be a starter. If he isn’t, he becomes a project and our 6th olinemen. I think it’s vital that we address the LT position in this draft, unless we think Jones or Kiran is the answer long term.

Having said that, I wouldn’t be upset at any pick they made at this point, as long as it’s not terrible. If it’s oline, DT, Edge, or RB, I’ll be happy.
I've got nothing against Membou but I don't see how you 'shuffle this line'. Wright is better on the right side. If they draft Membou it would be to replace Jones. I don't think they go T in one unless they feel they have their can't miss LT.

Kiran has 36+" arms and great mobility. He needs to get stronger and some technique work but had no time to do that last year. I'm not saying he's all that but no one here knows what he'll become at this time. We'll know how this staff feels about him by day 3 of this draft.
 

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I've got nothing against Membou but I don't see how you 'shuffle this line'. Wright is better on the right side. If they draft Membou it would be to replace Jones. I don't think they go T in one unless they feel they have their can't miss LT.

Kiran has 36+" arms and great mobility. He needs to get stronger and some technique work but had no time to do that last year. I'm not saying he's all that but no one here knows what he'll become at this time. We'll know how this staff feels about him by day 3 of this draft.

My main concern with Kiran is longevity even if he does develop. That injury he suffered shortens careers, it’s just a matter of when the repair fails. Was not a fan of the pick for this reason.
 

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I believe the first pick should be an OT.

Jones is average (at best) and is coming off an injury.

The backup to Jones is a disaster.

Bears need a legit NFL tackle.
Oh, name me a Tackle in this draft that isn't expected to play Guard in the NFL... I'll help you, Cambell, short arm concern. Armand Membou is only ever been a RT, we have one. Banks? He's only 6'4" with Cambell short arm problem and size problem... 6'4" is small for a Tackle, projection has him more as a Guard in the NFL. Simmons? He is coming of off an ACL but is legit. Size, power, length
 
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Oh, name me a Tackle in this draft that isn't expected to play Guard in the NFL... I'll help you, Cambell, short arm concern. Armand Membou is only ever been a RT, we have one. Banks? He's only 6'4" with Cambell short arm problem and size problem... 6'4" is small for a Tackle, projection has him more as a Guard in the NFL. Simmons? He is coming of off an ACL but is legit. Size, power, length

Fairly certain teams are projecting Membou as playing either position. Banks is 1/2 inch over the minimum, he's fine.
Simmons is a LT. There are 2nd round graded guys that can play LT as well.

Campbell's issue isn't just his arms, its his entire width. Campbell is a G for sure though.
 

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Are you willing to pay him 22-25 million per after this season?
I don’t have to pay him shit, I don’t own the team. Now if you’re asking whether the Bears should give him a new contract after this season, how can I answer that? Probably should first see if he plays well and worthy of a new contract. If he isn’t, then you revisit this topic next draft?
 
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