Jameis Winston looks like the real deal.

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Ok?

Yeah, rookie/young player projection is really rare. Pretty dumb. Never happens.

Good talk.

I never said it didn't happen, I said it's stupid to project All Pro from average, when that's ALL he's ever shown in the NFL. Are you really this stupid?
 

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Got it. Projecting Peyton Manning an all pro was stupid.

Good talk!

How often does that happen? And I love how you use arguably the greatest QB of all time as your example. More often than not average will never equal All Pro. Try using some sense dipshit. Never mind, I doubt you ever get it.
 

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How often does that happen?

Across all positions? Quite a bit. A lot of rookies are "average" on the NFL to start off.

But yeah because people are wrong about it a lot of times too it's dumb to do.

Player projection = dumb and stupid.

Great talk!
 

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Across all positions? Quite a bit. A lot of rookies are "average" on the NFL to start off.

But yeah because people are wrong about it a lot of times too it's dumb to do.

Player projection = dumb and stupid.

Great talk!

I'm not talking about all positions, we're talking QB here. It rarely fucking happens.
 

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I never said it didn't happen, I said it's stupid to project All Pro from average, when that's ALL he's ever shown in the NFL. Are you really this stupid?
Argue your point but stop the insults. This goes for everybody.
 

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FirstTimer logic: It's OK to project a player as All Pro when his lone NFL season was average. Brilliant.
 

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FirstTimer logic: It's OK to project a player as All Pro when his lone NFL season was average. Brilliant.

Yeah, clearly this has never happened in the history of professional football.

Our bad. It won't happen again.

Thanks for the great football discussion.
 

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History of professional football logic: It's OK to project a player as All Pro when his lone NFL season was average. Brilliant.

FYP.

Thanks!

It's been enlightening.
 

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FirstTimer logic: It's OK to project a player as All Pro when his lone NFL season was average. Brilliant.

A 21 year old rookie, finishing a season ranked 16 by Football Outsiders and 13 by Total QBR is not normal.
 

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A 21 year old rookie, finishing a season ranked 16 by Football Outsiders and 13 by Total QBR is not normal.

That is the definition of average meathead. And he sure had an All Pro performance today didn't he??
 

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Winston was awful last year. A shit load of garbage time touchdowns to pad his stats doesn't change that.
 

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Winston was awful last year. A shit load of garbage time touchdowns to pad his stats doesn't change that.

I just hate his smile, the way his ego trips on acid when he does something good. He has a golden arm but when he is able to command the respect of the 52 men he is leading I will raise my eye brows finally.
 

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That is the definition of average meathead. And he sure had an All Pro performance today didn't he??

Let's talk at the end of the season.I think he will be closer to all pro than bad. I figure he will be all pro type around year 4.
 
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I just hate his smile, the way his ego trips on acid when he does something good. He has a golden arm but when he is able to command the respect of the 52 men he is leading I will raise my eye brows finally.

That's already done. His teammates clearly respect him. Are you honestly criticizing the kid for smiling too much? Is that the reverse Cutler?
 

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