Japan looks to clone Mammoth in 5 years

[bri]

The big question for scientists (I recently watched the prehistoric Predators National geographic series). Is that all of the mega fauna, died off toward the end but still during the last ice age. Also, these animals existed between ice ages in temperate climates as well, so unless there was some drastic climatic event, they aren't seeing, they don't understand how climate could be responsible.



grey wolves and dire wolves(bigger meaner and tougher wolves, they were pretty much better than the grey wolf in every way physically) inhabited the same areas yet, dire wolves died out and grey wolves survive today. The Giant sloth, sabertooth, short faced bear for some reason all of these species simply croaked(and they werent all adapted specifically for frigid climates, any more than a grizzly bear, again which also existed at that time(another example, the short faced bear was a bigger, badder version of the grizzly, yet slightly slower).



and supraman, you may not need to bring a megaladon back, they may still exist, I think weve only explored like 20% of our ocean body or something. If they are gone I think they are gone for good, I dont even know how they determine what a megaladon would look like considering all we've found is teeth and a few vertebra.







Now heres a proposition. if we find viable neandrathal tissue do we take the leap and attempt the same thing they are doing with the mammoths?

Nooooooooooooooooooooooo. They would require way too much manscaping and would probably be a bad influence.

 

[sth]

The big question for scientists (I recently watched the prehistoric Predators National geographic series). Is that all of the mega fauna, died off toward the end but still during the last ice age. Also, these animals existed between ice ages in temperate climates as well, so unless there was some drastic climatic event, they aren't seeing, they don't understand how climate could be responsible.



grey wolves and dire wolves(bigger meaner and tougher wolves, they were pretty much better than the grey wolf in every way physically) inhabited the same areas yet, dire wolves died out and grey wolves survive today. The Giant sloth, sabertooth, short faced bear for some reason all of these species simply croaked(and they werent all adapted specifically for frigid climates, any more than a grizzly bear, again which also existed at that time(another example, the short faced bear was a bigger, badder version of the grizzly, yet slightly slower).



and supraman, you may not need to bring a megaladon back, they may still exist, I think weve only explored like 20% of our ocean body or something. If they are gone I think they are gone for good, I dont even know how they determine what a megaladon would look like considering all we've found is teeth and a few vertebra.







Now heres a proposition. if we find viable neandrathal tissue do we take the leap and attempt the same thing they are doing with the mammoths?

No Neanderthals we won fair and square they lost. Unless we cross bred with them like some people think. Then we are Neanderthals.

I did hear another theory that oxygen levels have declined making it harder for larger animals. And I different theory that increased competition with humans for food lowered the amount of available prey so smaller animals that needed less fared better. Frankly I don't think they know what happened so they are guessing.

 

[TSD]

No Neanderthals we won fair and square they lost. Unless we cross bred with them like some people think. Then we are Neanderthals.

I did hear another theory that oxygen levels have declined making it harder for larger animals. And I different theory that increased competition with humans for food lowered the amount of available prey so smaller animals that needed less fared better. Frankly I don't think they know what happened so they are guessing.

One thing they were saying is "nothing" bad happened to the predators. But the Large horses, mammoth and buffalo at the time did suffer some fate (maybe humans). The problem might not have been the dire wolf, sabertooth cat, short faced bear etc. Not having the tools to survive, but they may have been hard wired to hunt only these large animals, and when they went, the predators followed. (in that show I watched, they can determine what animals they were eating, and all of them pretty much survived soley on the really big prey items) whereas smaller predators had larger variation in their diets.



As far as neandrathals, it would never get past an ethics committee. even if they could simply grow it in a tube requiring no human egg. The question would be what to do with it. it aint human, but aint exactly on par with our idea of zoo worthy animals, so what do you do with it.

 

[supraman]

The big question for scientists (I recently watched the prehistoric Predators National geographic series). Is that all of the mega fauna, died off toward the end but still during the last ice age. Also, these animals existed between ice ages in temperate climates as well, so unless there was some drastic climatic event, they aren't seeing, they don't understand how climate could be responsible.



grey wolves and dire wolves(bigger meaner and tougher wolves, they were pretty much better than the grey wolf in every way physically) inhabited the same areas yet, dire wolves died out and grey wolves survive today. The Giant sloth, sabertooth, short faced bear for some reason all of these species simply croaked(and they werent all adapted specifically for frigid climates, any more than a grizzly bear, again which also existed at that time(another example, the short faced bear was a bigger, badder version of the grizzly, yet slightly slower).



and supraman, you may not need to bring a megaladon back, they may still exist, I think weve only explored like 20% of our ocean body or something. If they are gone I think they are gone for good, I dont even know how they determine what a megaladon would look like considering all we've found is teeth and a few vertebra.







Now heres a proposition. if we find viable neandrathal tissue do we take the leap and attempt the same thing they are doing with the mammoths?

I'm pretty sure the megaladon is gone, if it wasnt it would have eaten a submarine by now. Can you imagine that though, I mean you think a GWS is big, it is NOTHING compared to a Megaladon. Imagine seeing one of them hit a whale near the surface and breach the water like a GWS does. I'm sure if you seen it in person you would shit your pants.

 

[sth]

One thing they were saying is "nothing" bad happened to the predators. But the Large horses, mammoth and buffalo at the time did suffer some fate (maybe humans). The problem might not have been the dire wolf, sabertooth cat, short faced bear etc. Not having the tools to survive, but they may have been hard wired to hunt only these large animals, and when they went, the predators followed. (in that show I watched, they can determine what animals they were eating, and all of them pretty much survived soley on the really big prey items) whereas smaller predators had larger variation in their diets.

That does make sense. We just started doing damage immediately whenever we show up somewhere. Just because we figured out how to roast bones to eat the marrow and started making our brains bigger. Who knew right?

 

[supraman]

One thing they were saying is "nothing" bad happened to the predators. But the Large horses, mammoth and buffalo at the time did suffer some fate (maybe humans). The problem might not have been the dire wolf, sabertooth cat, short faced bear etc. Not having the tools to survive, but they may have been hard wired to hunt only these large animals, and when they went, the predators followed. (in that show I watched, they can determine what animals they were eating, and all of them pretty much survived soley on the really big prey items) whereas smaller predators had larger variation in their diets.

Another thing to consider is what is the gestation period of these animals and number of offspring they produce (most likely one). To explain where I am going with this take the gestation of an african elephant it is 22 months (we'll round to two years for easy math). Now say 1 elephant dies a year you need two babies to keep it level since it takes 2 years to make the babies and in those two years 2 elephants die. You keep doing the math out evetually it stops working. I understand this is a very rudimentary example but for any species to survive it has to make as many or more babies as it loses adults.

 

[winos5]

Once they succeed in cloning that mofo I want some fucking Fred Flintstone ribs pronto!!!!

 

[Tater]

Once they succeed in cloning that mofo I want some fucking Fred Flintstone ribs pronto!!!!

Mmmmm.....Mammoth.

 

[MassHavoc]

We have to be the nerdiest hockey board ever.

 

[Ymono37]

One thing they were saying is "nothing" bad happened to the predators. But the Large horses, mammoth and buffalo at the time did suffer some fate (maybe humans). The problem might not have been the dire wolf, sabertooth cat, short faced bear etc. Not having the tools to survive, but they may have been hard wired to hunt only these large animals, and when they went, the predators followed. (in that show I watched, they can determine what animals they were eating, and all of them pretty much survived soley on the really big prey items) whereas smaller predators had larger variation in their diets.



As far as neandrathals, it would never get past an ethics committee. even if they could simply grow it in a tube requiring no human egg. The question would be what to do with it. it aint human, but aint exactly on par with our idea of zoo worthy animals, so what do you do with it.

Well... if 80's/early 90's movies have taught me nothing (and they haven't) - we would need to take it to some kind of university or highschool and try and make it blend in with the other students... as our "cousin" from some foreign country.

 

[supraman]

Well... if 80's/early 90's movies have taught me nothing (and they haven't) - we would need to take it to some kind of university or highschool and try and make it blend in with the other students... as our "cousin" from some foreign country.

Hey 80s movies might teach us something but porn flicks lie to you. Not every woman over 40 wants a younger guy....god damn misleading porn.

 

[JOVE23]

As far as neandrathals, it would never get past an ethics committee. even if they could simply grow it in a tube requiring no human egg. The question would be what to do with it. it aint human, but aint exactly on par with our idea of zoo worthy animals, so what do you do with it.

Geico commercials.

 

[Bringmepie]

As far as neandrathals, it would never get past an ethics committee. even if they could simply grow it in a tube requiring no human egg. The question would be what to do with it. it aint human, but aint exactly on par with our idea of zoo worthy animals, so what do you do with it.

Right, like ethics ever stopped the Octomom. Speaking of whom, you'd need some crazy attention starved %#@$& like that to serve as broodmare. But you're right, then there's the same old problem with other genetic freaks of nature, sure they're cute so long as they're small enough to accessorize in Paris Hilton's handbag but then what do you do with them once they get too big? Flush it down into the sewers of Manhattan to serve as some kind of king/god for the albino crocodiles or have it star in some New Jersey based TV reality show? Have it hang out with former Olympian Bruce Jenner to boost his feelings of self worth? Make it a moderator (just kidding)?

 

[JOVE23]

I think we all missed a big thing about this story: The JAPANESE are doing this.



$5 says this new creature has tentacles and is named Rapeasaurus Rex. I weep for our future.

 

[Tater]

Right, like ethics ever stopped the Octomom. Speaking of whom, you'd need some crazy attention starved %#@{:content:}amp; like that to serve as broodmare. But you're right, then there's the same old problem with other genetic freaks of nature, sure they're cute so long as they're small enough to accessorize in Paris Hilton's handbag but then what do you do with them once they get too big? Flush it down into the sewers of Manhattan to serve as some kind of king/god for the albino crocodiles or have it star in some New Jersey based TV reality show? Have it hang out with former Olympian Bruce Jenner to boost his feelings of self worth? Make it a moderator (just kidding)?

Put it in Siegfried & Roy's act?

 

[supraman]

Right, like ethics ever stopped the Octomom. Speaking of whom, you'd need some crazy attention starved %#@{:content:}amp; like that to serve as broodmare. But you're right, then there's the same old problem with other genetic freaks of nature, sure they're cute so long as they're small enough to accessorize in Paris Hilton's handbag but then what do you do with them once they get too big? Flush it down into the sewers of Manhattan to serve as some kind of king/god for the albino crocodiles or have it star in some New Jersey based TV reality show? Have it hang out with former Olympian Bruce Jenner to boost his feelings of self worth? Make it a moderator (just kidding)?

so um hella banned?

 

[MassHavoc]

so um hella banned?

seconded... hah