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Even when Fuller was here , he was never terribleNobody even looks at JJ is when they have Vildor to pick on every other snap
Kmet was definitely not a bpa pick. TE was a huge hole due to Burton laying up.Question really is… would you like to have Johnson and Diggs, or Johnson and Winfield Jr vs Johnson and Kmet.
I’ll hang up and listen.
@Grimson. Check this guy out. Classic Christmas parade attendee...Hopefully he doesn't die from gun violence, like his friend, who got into "an altercation" on the street.
Could've had treyvon Diggs who makes impact plays. Pace blew it again. Mooneys drops are starting to add up too
He has had a case of cement hands this yearDid I miss this running joke? Dude went over 80 targets last year before he even recorded his first drop in the NFL.
He had a drop rate of 3.1% last year. 3.6% so far this year.
Tyler Lockett drop rate last year (2020) = 5.3%
CeeDee Lamb drop rate last year (2020) = 8.1%
Lamb's drop rate this year so far is 3.9%
He’s good, can’t remember the last impact play he had.
He has had a case of cement hands this year
This. He's stretching for balls others wouldn't get to and when the ball gets swatted out of his grasp because he waited for it, guys still call it a drop. He could have been on the other side of a couple contested catches this year but it's way overstated.idk about cement hands... but he has had more contested catch opportunities (not his forte) because he's been the defacto #1 receiver all year. I do agree that he needs to attack the ball more when he goes up for a contested catch, but the guy has had 3 drops so far this year while increasing his average receiving distance by 5 yards and already doubling the number of his 20+ yard receptions from last year.
There's about 49 other players on this roster that folks should pick a bone with before they get to Mooney.
JJ has been pretty good, but his game against adams wasn't really impressive. He's been burned a few times over his first couple years and had the qbs miss the open receivers. I like JJ and think he is a piece of the future but he isn't a shut down corner. I'd prefer if they can find a shutdown at cb1 and have him as cb2.This thread makes no sense, lol. If you watch Diggs play you’ll see how often he gets burned, often times for 50+ yard chunk plays. Somebody already pointed out their PFF grade and the eye test supports it. He’s also primarily a nickel corner and doesn’t have the same positional value as someone on the outside.
JJ is good enough to contain a #1 receiver, travel with him all game long, and hold him to a pedestrian game (see Adams, Devonta). Diggs let a rookie drop 200 yards on him. Lol
People need to stop regurgitating the ESPN story lines and actually watch the games. JJ and Smith are the future of this defense and they have played like it all year.
idk about cement hands... but he has had more contested catch opportunities (not his forte) because he's been the defacto #1 receiver all year. I do agree that he needs to attack the ball more when he goes up for a contested catch, but the guy has had 3 drops so far this year while increasing his average receiving distance by 5 yards and already doubling the number of his 20+ yard receptions from last year.
There's about 49 other players on this roster that folks should pick a bone with before they get to Mooney.
Did I miss this running joke? Dude went over 80 targets last year before he even recorded his first drop in the NFL.
He had a drop rate of 3.1% last year. 3.6% so far this year.
Tyler Lockett drop rate last year (2020) = 5.3%
CeeDee Lamb drop rate last year (2020) = 8.1%
Lamb's drop rate this year so far is 3.9%
Yeah, I don't have a problem with Mooney he is one of my favorite players. I am being real, he wants to be treated as a #1 and get that #1 money eventually, then when a ball hits his hands he needs to catch it. There have been a number of times this year, where uncontested balls hit his hands and he is not coming down with them.
If his ceiling is 900 yards and 4-5 TDs, I am OK with that for a 5th round pick. People labeling him as a #1 are out of their minds. 16 targets and 5 receptions is unacceptable. Not convinced it's NOT coaching (shocker) because I think Mike Fury sucks, he hasn't developed anyone.
JJ has been pretty good, but his game against adams wasn't really impressive. He's been burned a few times over his first couple years and had the qbs miss the open receivers. I like JJ and think he is a piece of the future but he isn't a shut down corner. I'd prefer if they can find a shutdown at cb1 and have him as cb2.
I personally think the rest of the secondary being awful benefits him, because why would you target him with vildor/shelley/burns on the fieldHow wasn’t that game impressive? Adams had 4 catches 89 yards and 50 of that came on a broken play in the middle of the field which was more on Vildor and the safeties than JJ. Should have been a 9 yard gain. Adams is the best receiver in the game and he essentially contained him on the outside with no help. He was a non factor in that game relative to his usual standard - the bears didn’t even double him, JJ traveled with him all game.
I disagree he’s not a #1 corner, or that he can’t get there very soon. He’s 22, has made insane strides, and doesn’t have anybody else in the secondary to take pressure off of him.
Let him focus on one side and he’s a stud. He’s one of the very few players on this team that we should all be very very excited about.
Also disclaimer: I am a huge fan of him lol. He’ll never make the plays a guy like Patrick Surtain does but he could very well end up as a more polite Josh Norman type
I personally think the rest of the secondary being awful benefits him, because why would you target him with vildor/shelley/burns on the field