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Joe johnson save for one year, has shot 35-38% from the 3pt line. 1 year in pheonix he shot 40%. His career average is 37% which coincidentally is also what he's shooting this year. Last years percentage was 36. He's not a great shooter. More than anything he's not a catch and shoot, shooter. he's more of an isolation kinda guy.
On the other hand, ben gordon has gone below 40% shooting ONCE in his career. it's this year in detriot. This year has been the worst year BG has shot from the 3pt line. IT"S THE VERY WORST! HE HAS BEEN SHOOTING! with that said, he's shooting at 38%. Yeup. BG at his worst is better from JJ at his best at the 3 pt line. Also, he can catch and shoot.
Derrick rose likes to run. this is a running team. we're great on a fast break. JJ is an older player. towards the end of his huge contract, he's going to look really bad. really bad. Here's why. How man shooting guards do you know that are 245 lbs? I know of only one. JJ. Yeah, he has a great post up game, but how good is a 250lb shooting guard going to look at 32? Age creeps up on us all, and i'm not sure JJ will be able to play the sg position later in his career. The speed of the game is getting quicker and quicker, and JJ will just get slower and slower. his size isn't helping him.
i'd rather have gordon's speed than johnson's strength. Have i mentioned gordon is younger than johnson?
On the other hand, JJ is averaging 4.6 rbs to gordon's 2.9. Cause that's what you really want from your guards. rebounding.
To boot johnson is a better ball handler than gordon. he averages two fewer turn overs per game than gordon.
JJ is averaging 1.3 more assists per game than gordon. i'm not sure if that's more or less impressive given atlanta's tendency for isolation offense. Also if you look at gordon's only year playing with rose, he did average 1.5 more assists per game for the season.
Furthermore JJ's getting you 2 extra ppg. Although his career number is 18ppg, it'd be more legitimate to consider it to be 20ppg. BG gives you 18 ppg. I'm not sure who i would give more credit to. BG has been the focus of a terrible offensive system. He's taken more difficult/clutch shots. MORE IMPORTANTLY! bg wasn't always playing starters minutes. he's often been asked to come off the bench.
Besides this year, in which johnson is shooting 46% from the field, johnson hovers betwen 44-45%. his career average is 44%. On the other hand ben gordon gives you: 43% for his career shooting percentage. YES, that number includes his absolutely awful year in Detroit. Interestinglty gordon shot 42@ twice. This year and the year the team broke down. he shot 41% his rookie year. Asides from that his range has been 43% -45%.
However, gordon is a better ft shooter.
his rookie year he shot 90 more ft's than johnson at : 86% to johnson 75%
SADLY, in o5/06 Johnson shot 60 more ft's than gordon. Also he shot 79% to ... sadly gordon was at a carreer low with 78% yeup. career low of 78%
in 06/-07 gordon shot 126 more ft's than johson. he shot them at a thunderous 86%!!!!! johnson shot 74. yeah.. seeing a trend?
In 07/08 Gordon was money at the line. he shot 90%!!!!! Johnson shot 83%. Sadly he shot 86 more free throws that year. Have i mentioned johnson plays 10 minutes more per game than gordon? Also he's handling the ball more than gordon? hmm. i guess i should have. not only does it explain the small dip, it also amplifies how much better gordon is at getting to the line.
In o8/09 Gordon made 20 more free throws than johnson. He shot 86%, and johnson shot 82%.
Since gordon plays 10 entire minutes less, that's practically an entire quarter(!!!!!), than johnson; and he's a better shooter than johnson at the line, i'm declaring gordon the hands down better player at generating fouls. More importantly, in spite of few minutes, from the day that gordon came into the nba, johnson has been to the line more often ONLY for 2 seasons in his career.
Here's an interesting fact, after coming over from Phoenix, Johnson's team has made the playoffs twice! Since gordon was playing for the bulls, the bulls missed the playoffs once. we got rose that year.
since he's come to atlanta. JJ has made it the playoffs twice. In o7/08 he gave 20 ppg of 40% shooting. 44% behind the arc.
Obviously the bulls didnt make the playoffs that year. the year before the bulls made it to the second round.
!!! Gordon scored 20.4 ppg at 41% fg% and shooting 43% behind the arc.
In fact ben gordon has been playing this way for a while now. BG in his second year in the league, 05/06, he shot 40% fg% 36% from the 3, but he scored 21 ppg. Both their rookie playoff years were rather terrible (in spite of that ben gordon's was significantly better. 40% v 27%. In spite of the fact that gordon played few minutes than johnson, and was still a rookie. i believe johnson was in his second/third year in the nba. )
But enough of the past, lets get to the latest playoff games. Keep in mind that Gordon was injured during the playoff series against the celtics. Last year johnson averaged 16.4 ppg at 40% shooting and 33% from the 3pt line. he shot 66% from the free throw line. that's really really really bad. In fact everyear except 04/05 johnson has shot below 69% from the free throw line. WHAT THE CRAP!!!!! last year he has 2.9 turn overs per game
on the other hand gordon took a bit of a dip in terms of efficiency, but a lot of that was the injury. he scored 24ppg on 38% fg% while shooting 37% from the 3pt line. he shot 85% from the ft line. in fact for the past couple years in the playoffs gordon's worse performance from the line was 25-36. Gordons usually money from the line during the playoffs. In o4/05 he shot 20-25, 06-07 he shot 58-63 last year he shot 49- 56. conversely johnson was 12-35.
Joe johnson save for one year, has shot 35-38% from the 3pt line. 1 year in pheonix he shot 40%. His career average is 37% which coincidentally is also what he's shooting this year. Last years percentage was 36. He's not a great shooter. More than anything he's not a catch and shoot, shooter. he's more of an isolation kinda guy.
On the other hand, ben gordon has gone below 40% shooting ONCE in his career. it's this year in detriot. This year has been the worst year BG has shot from the 3pt line. IT"S THE VERY WORST! HE HAS BEEN SHOOTING! with that said, he's shooting at 38%. Yeup. BG at his worst is better from JJ at his best at the 3 pt line. Also, he can catch and shoot.
Derrick rose likes to run. this is a running team. we're great on a fast break. JJ is an older player. towards the end of his huge contract, he's going to look really bad. really bad. Here's why. How man shooting guards do you know that are 245 lbs? I know of only one. JJ. Yeah, he has a great post up game, but how good is a 250lb shooting guard going to look at 32? Age creeps up on us all, and i'm not sure JJ will be able to play the sg position later in his career. The speed of the game is getting quicker and quicker, and JJ will just get slower and slower. his size isn't helping him.
i'd rather have gordon's speed than johnson's strength. Have i mentioned gordon is younger than johnson?
On the other hand, JJ is averaging 4.6 rbs to gordon's 2.9. Cause that's what you really want from your guards. rebounding.
To boot johnson is a better ball handler than gordon. he averages two fewer turn overs per game than gordon.
JJ is averaging 1.3 more assists per game than gordon. i'm not sure if that's more or less impressive given atlanta's tendency for isolation offense. Also if you look at gordon's only year playing with rose, he did average 1.5 more assists per game for the season.
Furthermore JJ's getting you 2 extra ppg. Although his career number is 18ppg, it'd be more legitimate to consider it to be 20ppg. BG gives you 18 ppg. I'm not sure who i would give more credit to. BG has been the focus of a terrible offensive system. He's taken more difficult/clutch shots. MORE IMPORTANTLY! bg wasn't always playing starters minutes. he's often been asked to come off the bench.
Besides this year, in which johnson is shooting 46% from the field, johnson hovers betwen 44-45%. his career average is 44%. On the other hand ben gordon gives you: 43% for his career shooting percentage. YES, that number includes his absolutely awful year in Detroit. Interestinglty gordon shot 42@ twice. This year and the year the team broke down. he shot 41% his rookie year. Asides from that his range has been 43% -45%.
However, gordon is a better ft shooter.
his rookie year he shot 90 more ft's than johnson at : 86% to johnson 75%
SADLY, in o5/06 Johnson shot 60 more ft's than gordon. Also he shot 79% to ... sadly gordon was at a carreer low with 78% yeup. career low of 78%
in 06/-07 gordon shot 126 more ft's than johson. he shot them at a thunderous 86%!!!!! johnson shot 74. yeah.. seeing a trend?
In 07/08 Gordon was money at the line. he shot 90%!!!!! Johnson shot 83%. Sadly he shot 86 more free throws that year. Have i mentioned johnson plays 10 minutes more per game than gordon? Also he's handling the ball more than gordon? hmm. i guess i should have. not only does it explain the small dip, it also amplifies how much better gordon is at getting to the line.
In o8/09 Gordon made 20 more free throws than johnson. He shot 86%, and johnson shot 82%.
Since gordon plays 10 entire minutes less, that's practically an entire quarter(!!!!!), than johnson; and he's a better shooter than johnson at the line, i'm declaring gordon the hands down better player at generating fouls. More importantly, in spite of few minutes, from the day that gordon came into the nba, johnson has been to the line more often ONLY for 2 seasons in his career.
Here's an interesting fact, after coming over from Phoenix, Johnson's team has made the playoffs twice! Since gordon was playing for the bulls, the bulls missed the playoffs once. we got rose that year.
since he's come to atlanta. JJ has made it the playoffs twice. In o7/08 he gave 20 ppg of 40% shooting. 44% behind the arc.
Obviously the bulls didnt make the playoffs that year. the year before the bulls made it to the second round.
!!! Gordon scored 20.4 ppg at 41% fg% and shooting 43% behind the arc. In fact ben gordon has been playing this way for a while now. BG in his second year in the league, 05/06, he shot 40% fg% 36% from the 3, but he scored 21 ppg. Both their rookie playoff years were rather terrible (in spite of that ben gordon's was significantly better. 40% v 27%. In spite of the fact that gordon played few minutes than johnson, and was still a rookie. i believe johnson was in his second/third year in the nba. )
But enough of the past, lets get to the latest playoff games. Keep in mind that Gordon was injured during the playoff series against the celtics. Last year johnson averaged 16.4 ppg at 40% shooting and 33% from the 3pt line. he shot 66% from the free throw line. that's really really really bad. In fact everyear except 04/05 johnson has shot below 69% from the free throw line. WHAT THE CRAP!!!!! last year he has 2.9 turn overs per game
on the other hand gordon took a bit of a dip in terms of efficiency, but a lot of that was the injury. he scored 24ppg on 38% fg% while shooting 37% from the 3pt line. he shot 85% from the ft line. in fact for the past couple years in the playoffs gordon's worse performance from the line was 25-36. Gordons usually money from the line during the playoffs. In o4/05 he shot 20-25, 06-07 he shot 58-63 last year he shot 49- 56. conversely johnson was 12-35.
