Just A Random Idea Involving The Cubs

[DewsSox79]

If the rest of the lineup can handle the defensive switching there is no doubt that the lineup would be improved, and would definitely help take some pressure off of Alex Rios have to be repeating his numbers from last year. It would be nice for all sides involved, but the question comes down to return. The Cubs are in a real tough spot with the very limited options to deal him, but if the Cubs are making him a 5 million a year guy that has value when the Cody Ross's of the world are making nearly 9 per year. It will be interesting to see, but I have a hard time seeing Soriano moved with how restrictive he is going to be in where he would go because I don't see the Sox offering anything of value in this scenario.

Sox are on the small list of teams he would go to. as far as what you would get back, depends on what money is being moved. Our farm system may not have the "ranking" that keith law loves to give, but as I have mentioned before....GMs like Beane and Hahn have made comments about trades and how rankings have nothing to do with getting deals done when certain teams are looking for specifics. With that said our farm doesnt have enough to land a guy like lets say stanton, but Im sure we have the pieces to get Soriano.

Doesn't his bat make our lack of a lefty bat all the more? Especially since he's not an impact bat any more.

he can still hit bombs. and at the cell he would hit a shitload.

 

[brett05]

Are you sold Des that he can put together another year like last?

 

[DewsSox79]

Are you sold Des that he can put together another year like last?

why not? he can now DH and get days off.

 

[brett05]

If we get him, I hope you are right, but I see it as more of a fluke year for him

 

[Capt. Serious]

Sox are too right-handed heavy.

 

[nickofypres]

Last year was kind of a fluky year given the prior seasons before hand.

2009-2011: 248/305/463 (768) 101 OPS+ while averaging 23 home runs.

We can get that from Viciedo and maybe Flowers. Yeah, the Cubs are going to likely eat a lot of money, but is it worth it to send them a prospect, who's value is still unknown at this point, for more of the same?

Yeah, Soriano may hit more bombs at USCF, but he may hit less due to better pitchers in the AL.

If the Cubs are moving outfielders, I would rather have DeJesus.Team needs more guys to get on base, considering Tank, FLowers, Ramirez, and Beckham all have sub .300 OBPs.

 

[Capt. Serious]

DeJesus would make more sense because he's left handed, which the Sox lack.

 

[dabynsky]

Sox are on the small list of teams he would go to. as far as what you would get back, depends on what money is being moved. Our farm system may not have the "ranking" that keith law loves to give, but as I have mentioned before....GMs like Beane and Hahn have made comments about trades and how rankings have nothing to do with getting deals done when certain teams are looking for specifics. With that said our farm doesnt have enough to land a guy like lets say stanton, but Im sure we have the pieces to get Soriano.

I never said that the Sox didn't have the pieces to land Soriano. Hell if any team wanted to pay Sori's 36 million I am sure they could have him for free right now even after the great season. That said all reports seem to indicate the Cubs are willing to make Sori a 5 mil a year player which given the contracts hand out this offseason is a steal. The question is what are the Sox willing to give up. I could see in any trade negotiations the Sox playing hardball because they know the Cubs are in a corner with where they can send Sori, and I think Theo and co. have shown that they will hold onto a guy if the return isn't high enough in their eyes.

 

[dabynsky]

Last year was kind of a fluky year given the prior seasons before hand.

2009-2011: 248/305/463 (768) 101 OPS+ while averaging 23 home runs.

We can get that from Viciedo and maybe Flowers. Yeah, the Cubs are going to likely eat a lot of money, but is it worth it to send them a prospect, who's value is still unknown at this point, for more of the same?

Yeah, Soriano may hit more bombs at USCF, but he may hit less due to better pitchers in the AL.

If the Cubs are moving outfielders, I would rather have DeJesus.Team needs more guys to get on base, considering Tank, FLowers, Ramirez, and Beckham all have sub .300 OBPs.

Soriano isn't replacing Viciedo in this scenario. He is replacing Beckham, and I think there is no realistic scenario where Beckham outproduces what Soriano can provide. DeJesus wouldn't be a bad upgrade and I too love his approach. However, power is going to be an issue with this lineup especially if some of the older guys regress at all.

 

[DewsSox79]

Soriano isn't replacing Viciedo in this scenario. He is replacing Beckham, and I think there is no realistic scenario where Beckham outproduces what Soriano can provide. DeJesus wouldn't be a bad upgrade and I too love his approach. However, power is going to be an issue with this lineup especially if some of the older guys regress at all.

exactly. soriano would be replacing becks numbers


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[nickofypres]

Soriano isn't replacing Viciedo in this scenario. He is replacing Beckham, and I think there is no realistic scenario where Beckham outproduces what Soriano can provide. DeJesus wouldn't be a bad upgrade and I too love his approach. However, power is going to be an issue with this lineup especially if some of the older guys regress at all.

Right, but I guess my point is that if you're going to be getting rid of Beckham's D, then I'd rather add a guy who can get on base. Yeah, Soriano can hit bombs, but he'll be an aging, regressing power hitter like Konerko is.