Just for the Cutler thread haters.

[WindyCity]

yet, all off season you went on about how they need to find his replacement regardless. and you twist the evidence in a very homerish manner simply in order to form your opinion so that its supports whatever direction the organization seems to be heading.

The off season was before

-We saw an improved Cutler, again not elite but improved.
-We saw that we were not going to be picking #1
-We saw the QB class in college look like shit, specifically Hack and Jones.

So yes, based on those 3 things I do not see the Bears finding a better starting QB in 2016.


The Bears should find Cutler's replacement when they can, but right now based on how he looks in this offence and with this coaching staff I am not rushing to replace him with any loser we can find. I don't need Josh McCown, Brian Hoyer, or to rush a draft pick at this point.

 

[MrOuija]

Agree with Cutler being best of my era, but comparing him to Luckman who led the league is areas besides turnovers and who won chips is being a bit close minded.

You're giving him too much credit IMO. Best at what exactly? Losing to the pack? Leading the Bears to 8-8? He really hasn't done anything all the other bums we've had at QB haven't, other than keep his job after playing poorly. I'd take McMahon over him anyday, and even McCown or Kramer in a pinch.

 

[Monsieur Tirets]

The off season was before

-We saw an improved Cutler, again not elite but improved.
-We saw that we were not going to be picking #1
-We saw the QB class in college look like shit, specifically Hack and Jones.

So yes, based on those 3 things I do not see the Bears finding a better starting QB in 2016.

first of all hes not improved, regardless of how badly you want to believe he is. but thats irrelevant considering all off season you said it didnt matter how well he played, you didnt lay out any stipulations. you simply said they needed to move on period. but now because it looks like they might not youve adjusted you views so that they support what it looks like the team might do.

 

[WindyCity]

first of all hes not improved, regardless of how badly you want to believe he is. but thats irrelevant considering all off season you said it didnt matter how well he played, you didnt lay out any stipulations. you simply said they needed to move on period. but now because it looks like they might not youve adjusted you views so that they support what it looks like the team might do.

I adjusted my views because we are not going to get a better QB this year.

If Jared Goff falls to us then pull the trigger, I will be standing and clapping.

But we are not going to get a better QB. So I am adjusting my expectations based on that fact.


You know what would really piss me off, if Pace ran Cutler out of town and we had to sit through some career backup playing and a reach of a draft pick being prepped.

 

[mecha]

You realize there are around 15-20 better QBs than Cutler every year, right? Compared to their respective eras (which is the only way you can compare QBs from completely different generations playing completely different games), Luckman was far better than Cutler.

I think FT showed that McMahon ranked better among the QBs in his day too.

McMahon had the brains. him and Payton just made shit happen. I maintain that if he never got hurt, at least in that Raiders game and that Charles Martin shit, Bears were good for 3 Super Bowls. maybe even '87 too.

I'm with you on the differences in eras. Marino throwing for 5000 yards was big shit compared to when Matt Stafford and Philip Rivers do it. I think Warren Moon had a 4000 yard season or two, that never really happened back then. I'm not sure if McMahon ever cracked 2500, but that could be skewed by how much action he missed. they ran more then, obviously. people act like rushing doesn't exist now, which is bullshit, it's just the NFL's nerfed a lot of defensive play in the interest of "player safety" or for some other reason.

the game matured vastly since Luckman's time too. everyone has to create a scheme and someone else has to make a counter, and it goes in waves.

here's some trivia:
6. McMahon wins 25 consecutive starts, including postseason
Everyone remembers the 1985 Bears, and that great "46" defense. But the bottom line is that those great clubs didn't win nearly as much when quarterback Jim McMahon was not in the lineup. From 1984 to 1987, McMahon won 25 consecutive starts (including playoff games), a little-known fact among NFL historians. Why? Because of that defense. But keep in mind that when Steve Fuller had to start in the 1984 playoffs, and Doug Flutie in the 1986 postseason, the Bears were eliminated.

 

[MrOuija]

I adjusted my views because we are not going to get a better QB this year.

If Jared Goff falls to us then pull the trigger, I will be standing and clapping.

But we are not going to get a better QB. So I am adjusting my expectations based on that fact.


You know what would really piss me off, if Pace ran Cutler out of town and we had to sit through some career backup playing and a reach of a draft pick being prepped.

We're not going anywhere whether he stays or not, so what does it matter? Might as well try to find a guy that can play, and that you can build around.

 

[mecha]

I think the negativity is awesome.

you people act like they're 0-5 and Cutler's averaging like 4 picks and singlehandedly costing the games something.

 

[Leon Sandcastle]

I cant understand how some people are not happy with the way Cutler is playing. I dont care if its the system or talent or whatever. I dont care about the stats. All i care about is what i see on the field, which is much improved imo..

 

[Monsieur Tirets]

no, were acting like jays jay instead of pretending hes suddenly turned into a quality QB after a couple of mediocre performances and a couple of wins against sub par teams.. hes not showing anything he hasnt in the past, this supposed improvement is only in the eyes of homers. just because hes not leading the league in turnovers again that doesnt mean hes improved as a QB. last year was the worst of the worst. gase would have to actually work at duplicating that, or just ask him to run the WC. but with the O hes running jay would have to be the worst QB in bears history to look that bad again.

yet, despite an O that relies on easy reads/throws, jays still turning the ball over, still inaccurate and still,well, jay.

And im with you Ouija, who gives a shit if pace runs cutler out of town and has to run with a place holder? results are the same.

 

[Novak]

I think the negativity is awesome.

you people act like they're 0-5 and Cutler's averaging like 4 picks and singlehandedly costing the games something.

I like the cut of your jib.

 

[Newblood]

no, were acting like jays jay instead of pretending hes suddenly turned into a quality QB after a couple of mediocre performances and a couple of wins against sub par teams.. hes not showing anything he hasnt in the past, this supposed improvement is only in the eyes of homers. just because hes not leading the league in turnovers again that doesnt mean hes improved as a QB. last year was the worst of the worst. gase would have to actually work at duplicating that, or just ask him to run the WC. but with the O hes running jay would have to be the worst QB in bears history to look that bad again.

yet, despite an O that relies on easy reads/throws, jays still turning the ball over, still inaccurate and still,well, jay.

And im with you Ouija, who gives a shit if pace runs cutler out of town and has to run with a place holder? results are the same.

What the hell did I just read? Do you just say, just because Jay has improved this year doesn't mean he has improved this year? Really?

The realistic people ARE happy Jay is playing a conservative and managed game. The realistic people understand that Jay is Jay and he needs that. The realistic people understand that when it comes to current QB options, Jay is the best they Bears have for now, so you work with what you have.

 

[mecha]

Tom Brady is a system quarterback.

Tom Brady owns.

Aaron Rodgers is a system quarterback.

Aaron Rodgers owns.

Peyton Manning is the system.

Peyton Manning probably won't win another Super Bowl.

Jay Cutler is Jay Cutler, and no, he doesn't care.

What the hell did I just read? Do you just say, just because Jay has improved this year doesn't mean he has improved this year? Really?

The realistic people ARE happy Jay is playing a conservative and managed game. The realistic people understand that Jay is Jay and he needs that. The realistic people understand that when it comes to current QB options, Jay is the best they Bears have for now, so you work with what you have.

they're cunting cause Fales got cut. Bears fan logic is the backup is always the best option. maybe when Grossman was starting, before he started getting egged/shit on/jizzed on on family night, maybe.

 

[Monsieur Tirets]

What the hell did I just read? Do you just say, just because Jay has improved this year doesn't mean he has improved this year? Really?

The realistic people ARE happy Jay is playing a conservative and managed game. The realistic people understand that Jay is Jay and he needs that. The realistic people understand that when it comes to current QB options, Jay is the best they Bears have for now, so you work with what you have.

will you look at that, the moron that claims turnover rate is irrelevant if the actual number of turnovers is down has a problem with reading comprehension. what a surprise.

 

[mecha]

can we start documenting which posters we hate on the site? it's starting to get out of control and I can't follow it anymore.

BRO HARDER

 

[Monsieur Tirets]

try harder.

 

[mecha]

try harder.

very well. I'll start.

I hate you.

1.) Monsieur Tirets

 

[Newblood]

will you look at that, the moron that claims turnover rate is irrelevant if the actual number of turnovers is down has a problem with reading comprehension. what a surprise.

Talk about a moron with reading comprehension issues. Go back and review my 2 extremes to the the Int% and come back and answer my question. Until then keep sounding like a moron. I would like another moron to beat like a drum in here.

So who is the media telling you is your favorite college QB this week? Maybe that will help clarify who will replace Jay

 

[mecha]

listen, here's how you win arguments on the internet. lesson 1: stop relying on accusing the other person of having shitty comprehension skills. this is equivalent to spinning your tires in mud; you get nowhere.

lesson 2: use Xbox Live logic; call their mom a whore, or say that you fucked her in the ass, or a combination of both.

try it. it's effective.

 

[Newblood]

listen, here's how you win arguments on the internet. lesson 1: stop relying on accusing the other person of having shitty comprehension skills. this is equivalent to spinning your tires in mud; you get nowhere.

lesson 2: use Xbox Live logic; call their mom a whore, or say that you fucked her in the ass, or a combination of both.

try it. it's effective.

Damnit. I missed the mom whore line.

I'll get it next time.

 

[mecha]

Damnit. I missed the mom whore line.

I'll get it next time.

I need to post on this motherfucker when I haven't slept yet more often. it's amusing.