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You can get just about anyone to stand in the outfield, but not all of them are going to have that power potential.

I'm sure the D'Backs' phone is ringing off the hook. I'm not going to be surprised one way or the other, but it's logical to assume that if they did ship Starlin Castro, the Cubs front office is going to take a major PR hit even if the trade ends up looking genius.
 

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Out of every other position, yes.

Sorry there are very few players in the game at any position capable of producing what Upton does. We have been desensitized to what actually power numbers look like from the past twenty years, but Upton is special in every way. And saying that you can just get anyone out there to get close to the same production is stupid.
 

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Dab, I'm having too much explaining it. I do agree with you... so we'll leave it at that.
 

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Upton is on pace to hit like only 14 HR's this season....
 

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Upton is on pace to hit like only 14 HR's this season....

A hot streak here or there would change his "pace".

I like the trade speculation, I just don't think it will happen.
 

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A hot streak here or there would change his "pace".

I like the trade speculation, I just don't think it will happen.

He would a Sosa '98 June like streak haha. He hasn't had one all season.
 

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Upton is on pace to hit like only 14 HR's this season....
And Starlin Castro has a .312 OBP right now. I think we can all agree that both of these players are likely far better than what they've shown this season.
 

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And Starlin Castro has a .312 OBP right now. I think we can all agree that both of these players are likely far better than what they've shown this season.

That's true. Castro has been pretty "invisible" the last little while. But he has just as many homers as Upton does.
 

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A hot streak here or there would change his "pace".

I like the trade speculation, I just don't think it will happen.

Yes, but look at Upton's track record. We're talking about a guy who will show up big for one year... then almost take the next year off.... come back big again.... then take another break. Remember Soto's first 4 seasons.... and Upton's track record is eerily similar. Even his big years decline from the previous big years. Plus, if you talk to people who actually watch the DBacks day-in and day-out.... they'll tell you that Upton isn't the same guy this year. All are signs that... he's turning into a young bust. So, there is cause for concern there.

Plus, everything stated about Soler pretty much projects him as a Justin Upton (at his best) kind of guy. Granted, he's still years away from the majors. However, if he can provide that power from the right side in 3-4 years, why sacrifice a young player who has the potential to become the best SS around the game in the next 2-3 years as well?
 

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Yes, but look at Upton's track record. We're talking about a guy who will show up big for one year... then almost take the next year off.... come back big again.... then take another break. Remember Soto's first 4 seasons.... and Upton's track record is eerily similar. Even his big years decline from the previous big years. Plus, if you talk to people who actually watch the DBacks day-in and day-out.... they'll tell you that Upton isn't the same guy this year. All are signs that... he's turning into a young bust. So, there is cause for concern there.

Plus, everything stated about Soler pretty much projects him as a Justin Upton (at his best) kind of guy. Granted, he's still years away from the majors. However, if he can provide that power from the right side in 3-4 years, why sacrifice a young player who has the potential to become the best SS around the game in the next 2-3 years as well?

I really like Upton and would love to have him on the Cubs.

And I would trade pretty much anyone not named Castro or Rizzo for him.

To me trading Castro for Upton does not improve us that much because we are losing a very good player to add a very good player.
 

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Anyone wanting to trade Castro is crazy!

What the CUBS should be looking at is trading Vitters! If this kids defense is THAT bad, there is no room for him in the NL or on the CUBS. We already have enough OF's and he can't play 1B with Rizzo there!

We have Brett Jackson, Matt Szczur, Jorge Solar waiting in the wings and we need to figure out what to do with LaHair as well. As much as I like Upton, obtaining him will push back 1 of these guys even more.
 

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:lol: Of the four teams out of 30, the Cubs would be one of them :lol:
 

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The article did theorize that the high revenue teams like NYY and BOS might be on the list to try to leverage financial perks for accepting a deal. The deal was a longshot to begin with, and this certainly makes it even more likely.
 

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I would love to see a lineup of
B Jax
Castro
Rizzo
Upton
Vitters
Soto
Barney
Dejesus

that middle of the order top of the order if it reached it's potential holy shit. But it would never happen, Arizona won't just take specs
 

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Well seeing as this trade would be more geared towards future seasons....we shouldn't really care.

Unless it's a sign of things to come for Upton. If it's just a down year or maybe him being unhappy in ARZ I don't know. He is young enough still to be a solid player, but maybe he will always be inconsistent.
 

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Unless it's a sign of things to come for Upton. If it's just a down year or maybe him being unhappy in ARZ I don't know. He is young enough still to be a solid player, but maybe he will always be inconsistent.

The real problem is what are the Cubs offering the Diamondbacks?

Short of Castro or Garza and some prospects we do no have anything to offer and I do not see them wanting Garza.

I would love Upton and his power but we cannot afford to buy ready made MLB players. We are in buy low mode right now.
 

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