Kizer Finally Getting Some Love

[satchice]

To me, you need more than 1 good year in college. That's why I like Watson the most of the 3. Atleast with Tribs, his one good year was the most recent. Kizer makes me the most nervous because he had one good year but declined. Yes, there were other factors, but to be a top pick, I would want that player to show the ability to overcome some things out of their control.

I don't think you have been paying attention to which games you are watching.. Kizer's play did not decline, he team did! If anyone's game declined it was Watson, he is still making the same bone head mistakes and showing that really just cant process the game. If Kizer or Trubisky played on Clemson not only do they win the bowl game, but they would be the favorites to win.

 

[FirstTimer]

I was listening to Kiper on espn 1000 the other week and he said there were questions about his work ethic,

:aj:

That's hilarious. Seriously.

I'll repeat this: as a 19 year old in June of 2015 Kizer seriously considered giving up football to go back to baseball. Between that time and the end of the 2015 season he became a 1st round NFL draft prospect ...and he did this with a poor work ethic?

Kiper is fucking clueless on this one.

 

[cobra302]

Would love to see the Bears draft Kizer, but then I'm a ND homer. But he did lose a lot of the quality talent that was around him in 2015. And the 2016 defense put him in some tough situations. They couldn't get off the field. And I saw almost all of their games, same story pretty much every week.

 

[FirstTimer]

Watch the games! BF51 broke down 2 games. His accuracy and ball placement was not good. Go dig up those threads for specific throws if you want to hear them again.

Please cite specifics of issues you have seen.

 

[didshereallysaythat]

Please cite specifics of issues you have seen.

There will be simple quick hitters where the receiver would be open no more than 10 yards from the LOS and he would dirt the throw, or put it in locations where the receiver could not catch and run. I saw this time and time again last year. There would be other times where his accuracy was terrible when he was under pressure. Like overthrow a guy by 10 yards.

When you say specific, do you want opponent, time of game, weather conditions, etc?

 

[FirstTimer]

There will be simple quick hitters where the receiver would be open no more than 10 yards from the LOS and he would dirt the throw

What games or passes did these happen in. Please cite.

Thanks!

When you say specific, do you want opponent, time of game, weather conditions, etc?

Yep. Because from your description above I know you have zero idea what you're talking about.

 

[Sagbear]

:aj:

That's hilarious. Seriously.

I'll repeat this: as a 19 year old in June of 2015 Kizer seriously considered giving up football to go back to baseball. Between that time and the end of the 2015 season he became a 1st round NFL draft prospect ...and he did this with a poor work ethic?

Kiper is fucking clueless on this one.

In college you can take a huge step on talent an familiarity alone (knowing the playbook Better) and it's entirely possible for people to work hard then coast For example when a FA is about to hit the open market they always seems to step their game up.

 

[bearmick]

I don't think you have been paying attention to which games you are watching.. Kizer's play did not decline, he team did! If anyone's game declined it was Watson, he is still making the same bone head mistakes and showing that really just cant process the game. If Kizer or Trubisky played on Clemson not only do they win the bowl game, but they would be the favorites to win.

lol

 

[FirstTimer]

In college you can take a huge step on talent an familiarity alone (knowing the playbook Better) and it's entirely possible for people to work hard then coast For example when a FA is about to hit the open market they always seems to step their game up.

Ok?....this has what to do with Kizer?

 

[didshereallysaythat]

What games or passes did these happen in. Please cite.

Thanks!





Yep. Because from your description above I know you have zero idea what you're talking about.

First half of MSU game, entire Stanford game, entire NC State game (although I give him a pass because of the conditions). Those had the most bad plays, but pretty much every one had a few. No one is going to remember the exact moments.

I would like to know how many people with insider information to the NFL are reporting that Kizer currently is a top QB that is likely to go in the top 10. From what I have read, most have him lower than both Watson and Trubisky. And that is even with Kizer having the best measurables of the 3.

 

[FirstTimer]

No one is going to remember the exact moments.

I do.

Please cite them.

Thanks!

 

[didshereallysaythat]

I do.

Please cite them.

Thanks!

Cite the first Cutler mistake of the 2nd Lions game in the 2013 season. You have 1 minute.

 

[FirstTimer]

Cite the first Cutler mistake of the 2nd Lions game in the 2013 season. You have 1 minute.

Walking out of the tunnel.

Next question.

 

[didshereallysaythat]

Walking out of the tunnel.

Next question.

Cite the first in game Cutler mistake of the 2nd Lions game in the 2013 season. You have 10 seconds left.

 

[FirstTimer]

Cite the first in game Cutler mistake of the 2nd Lions game in the 2013 season. You have 10 seconds left.

Taking the snap.

 

[didshereallysaythat]

Taking the snap.

Vs not taking the snap and having the ball fumbled. Got it.

 

[FirstTimer]

Vs not taking the snap and having the ball fumbled. Got it.

Direct snap to Forte would have been better.

 

[didshereallysaythat]

Direct snap to Forte would have been better.

Well, that would be a Trestman mistake. Surprising since he is such a great OC.

 

[FirstTimer]

Surprising since he is such a great OC.

Why would you call him a great OC?

 

[didshereallysaythat]

Why would you call him a great OC?

Sarcasm bro.