Looking@Jags starting skill pos.players-are they better than Bears?

[Applefan]

Other than Bortles having the experience factor over Mitch,I don't think so. I know we don't play them this year,my point is that they're a Super Bowl contender,but with WR Marquise Lee out,they seem kinda 'meh' at the skill positions except for Fournette.

http://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/depthchart/JAX

https://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/depthchart/CHI

 

[Hawkeye OG]

I'd like to think our skill guys are better then the Jags. Trubisky and Bortles are probably even at this point and maybe give Bortles a slight edge. I'd say Howard/Fournette are even but I guess you could make the argument for Fournette. Our WRs and TEs blow theirs out of the water.

They are in a much easier division. Having 2 legit SB contenders in the NFC North is tough.

 

[dawags]

Robinson couldn't get away from Bortles fast enough.

 

[bearmick]

I think their defense is the main reason they're considered Superbowl contenders. It's sick.

 

[playthrough2001]

I think their defense is the main reason they're considered Superbowl contenders. It's sick.

Best pair of corners in the league for sure...

 

[Chicago4Life]

jags have about a 2yr window before their defense starts crumbling. After this season they have some tough cuts to make...

 

[Outlaw Josey Cutler]

Best pair of corners in the league for sure...

I was gonna say. Jags secondary > Bears secondary and (right now) Jags front 7 > Bears front 7 but only scheme-wise and familiarity factor. Talent-wise maybe on par.

I like the Bears' chances in a matchup, any match-up in the NFL really, and it's been a long time since I felt I could say that. A great offseason. Go Bears!

 

[playthrough2001]

If the Bears D ends up top 5, they'll have a good chance to make the playoffs. Last year 2 of the final four QBs were Bortles and Keenum. The Eagles were able to finish it off with Nick Foles driving the bus. Three of those teams had tremendous defenses and obviously the Pats have Brady.

 

[bearmick]

Best pair of corners in the league for sure...

Rams up there too, but I'd probably give them a slight edge yeah.

 

[playthrough2001]

Rams up there too, but I'd probably give them a slight edge yeah.

I pushed the Jags duo in front because they're both young and neither of them are psychopaths.

 

[Hawkeye OG]

I pushed the Jags duo in front because they're both young and neither of them are psychopaths.

Have you heard the shit coming out of Ramsey's mouth lately?

 

[playthrough2001]

Have you heard the shit coming out of Ramsey's mouth lately?

Yes but he's a solid level down (on the crazy spectrum) from Talib and Peters.

 

[redgrange19]

Not a fan of these corners with attitude problems. I think Fuller and Prince will be silent assassins out there. I hope teams take notice.

 

[bearmick]

I pushed the Jags duo in front because they're both young and neither of them are psychopaths.

I would probably rank the four starters on these two teams

Peters
Ramsey
Bouye
Talib

But Peters and Ramsey are close.

Have you heard the shit coming out of Ramsey's mouth lately?

No, what did he say?

 

[bearmick]

Not a fan of these corners with attitude problems. I think Fuller and Prince will be silent assassins out there. I hope teams take notice.

I think you're verging on homer territory here. Our corners are at best an average pair.

 

[Warden of the Northeast]

Why the comparisons to the Jags? They're in an entirely different conference.

 

[Starion]

...I know we don't play them this year...

Week 19 they do. :yep:

 

[Hawkeye OG]

I would probably rank the four starters on these two teams

Peters
Ramsey
Bouye
Talib

But Peters and Ramsey are close.



No, what did he say?

https://www.sbnation.com/2018/7/6/17515462/jalen-ramsey-trash-talk-timeline

You'll have to scroll down to the 2018 dates. Shit has been pretty comical. He has had no filter this summer.

 

[Porkchop]

I think our defense will rank pretty solidly in the top 5, and I'd say 3rd best behind the Rams and Jags.

The Bears secondary is really underrated, and that was with an average at best pass rush (bear in mind, pass rush =/= sacks. Bears had a lot of sacks, but they were below average in terms of QB pressures overall). Love the Amos/Jackson tandem at safety and Prince + Fuller can do damage. Only thing I'm concerned about there is depth.

There's no getting around it. Adding Khalil Mack will make any defense infinitely better and the Bears were expected to have a top third defense this season prior to the acquisition of Mack. His addition means more overall production across the board. He's a massive upgrade in terms of pass rushing, both in pressures and sacks, and in terms of run defense.

Also been mentioned, but him and Floyd complement eachother damn near perfectly.

 

[ijustposthere]

If the Bears D ends up top 5, they'll have a good chance to make the playoffs. Last year 2 of the final four QBs were Bortles and Keenum. The Eagles were able to finish it off with Nick Foles driving the bus. Three of those teams had tremendous defenses and obviously the Pats have Brady.

Yeah, but Keenum and Foles were also playing out of their minds. It's not like they were some schlubs being completely carried by the D.