Maatta To LA For Prospect Morrison

[JimAKABlkhwks918]

Stan retains salary...

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[hawkinmontreal]

Another stupid move by Bowman, why in hell would you retain salary. This guy is a complete fucktard.

 

[Diehardfan]

Stan retains salary...

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LOL, where did you dig up that site? The moronic Kings fans are thinking they got a steal.....what they got was a slow motion, ham & egger defenseman that even with what the Hawks are picking up is still owed $6.6 mil over the next two years.

Hawks pick up another expiring contract while dumping one that's too high for the talent and gaining $3.3 mil in cap space. Nothing huge, but he's at least making some head way.

 

[hawkinmontreal]

LOL, where did you dig up that site? The moronic Kings fans are thinking they got a steal.....what they got was a slow motion, ham & egger defenseman that even with what the Hawks are picking up is still owed $6.6 mil over the next two years.

Hawks pick up another expiring contract while dumping one that's too high for the talent and gaining $3.3 mil in cap space. Nothing huge, but he's at least making some head way.

Bowman didnt need to retain salary, yes the Hawks are gaining cap room, but this is what Stan is known for, make a trade then get screwed by taking salary back, gm’s always ask for a little more and our beloved GM response with, sure no problem.

 

[ZOMBIE@CTESPN]

the video game gm what a fucktard

 

[ZOMBIE@CTESPN]

LOL, where did you dig up that site? The moronic Kings fans are thinking they got a steal.....what they got was a slow motion, ham & egger defenseman that even with what the Hawks are picking up is still owed $6.6 mil over the next two years.

Hawks pick up another expiring contract while dumping one that's too high for the talent and gaining $3.3 mil in cap space. Nothing huge, but he's at least making some head way.

stacking up that cap space to make more dumb ass moves like he did last offseason ?‍

 

[Raskolnikov]

Left handed shot, PPG player everywhere except the AHL level, that steps up in the playoffs too.
The AHL .4 PPG is a concern(but the smallest sample size), another near franchise top 25-30 depth guy to go with Pirri.
They moved salary and pick-up a left handed finisher to throw at the dart board with top 6 stick skill level.

Also, no room here for Maata moving forward. Lets not cry in our soup just yet guys. Jeez.
Kubalik shouldn't be a problem now. Can't have everything you want.

Final consideration, its an expansion year and the jockeying plan may be complex. Patience.

 

[Diehardfan]

Bowman didnt need to retain salary, yes the Hawks are gaining cap room, but this is what Stan is known for, make a trade then get screwed by taking salary back, gm’s always ask for a little more and our beloved GM response with, sure no problem.

Were you in on the negotiations? How would you know that? I'm not a Bowman guy, but that is purely conjecture on your part.

 

[JimAKABlkhwks918]

LOL, where did you dig up that site? The moronic Kings fans are thinking they got a steal.....what they got was a slow motion, ham & egger defenseman that even with what the Hawks are picking up is still owed $6.6 mil over the next two years.

Hawks pick up another expiring contract while dumping one that's too high for the talent and gaining $3.3 mil in cap space. Nothing huge, but he's at least making some head way.

Didn't look at the meatball fan comments, it was just the first site I found that documented the trade.

 

[JimAKABlkhwks918]

So weaken the already weak defense, retain salary, and get a career minor league player to try and fix the cap hell that his awful cap management have the team in in the first place....typical Stan Blowbag.

 

[Raskolnikov]

Yeah...we got something for most of Maata's contract.
I don't see how that isn't a win even if the something is nothing, but I kinda like the numerics around that kid.
This is spinning another coin to Kubalik them twice in 30 months.

Would be more than cool if Morrison could be worth $1,600,000 he now carries, but with Seabrook/Beudin/Mitchell/Bovquist/Vlasic/Gilbert/Caarlson log jam we aren't going to miss Maata too much either. Koo Koo might miss him, but it was a disaster icing both Seabrook and Maata even on seperate lines, imo.

 

[Team Chicago]

It weakens us at our weakest position but not by that much and gains 3+ mil in cap space. Cap space is valuable.

They probably didn't buy him out because that would have cost ownership millions more and they nixed it.

 

[Raskolnikov]

It weakens us at our weakest position but not by that much and gains 3+ mil in cap space. Cap space is valuable.

They probably didn't buy him out because that would have cost ownership millions more and they nixed it.

Does it?

The reality is Seabrooke is now a 3rd pairing, if his rehab goes well, he drops 25 lbs, and makes it out of the press box.

He can probably add enough offense to off-set the defensive difference and make up Maata, and thats if we aren't better served playing the yoots.

Boost in net points.
Extra yoot.
Clear the log jam Beudin and Mitchel some.

Win win win. So I'm not going to question the 700,000. I'm surprised we shed that salary for a little cash and got a player back instead of paying them off with picks like usual.

 

[Tater]

He can probably add enough offense to off-set the defensive difference and make up Maata, and thats if we aren't better served playing the yoots.

Boost in net points.
Extra yoot.
Clear the log jam Beudin and Mitchel some.

I believe it's spelled "yewt".

 

[Team Chicago]

Does it?

The reality is Seabrooke is now a 3rd pairing, if his rehab goes well, he drops 25 lbs, and makes it out of the press box.

He can probably add enough offense to off-set the defensive difference and make up Maata, and thats if we aren't better served playing the yoots.

Boost in net points.
Extra yoot.
Clear the log jam Beudin and Mitchel some.

Win win win. So I'm not going to question the 700,000. I'm surprised we shed that salary for a little cash and got a player back instead of paying them off with picks like usual.

I do think it weakens us at d but not by much as I said, mainly from a depth standpoint for if and when there are injuries and we don't have an overabundance of good NHL dmen.

For the most part, I agree. I am fine with the deal because at this point I think the 3+ mil in cap space is of more value than what Maatta brings because of his footspeed issues.

 

[Raskolnikov]

I do think it weakens us at d but not by much as I said, mainly from a depth standpoint for if and when there are injuries and we don't have an overabundance of good NHL dmen.

For the most part, I agree. I am fine with the deal because at this point I think the 3+ mil in cap space is of more value than what Maatta brings because of his footspeed issues.

Keith
Murphy
Seabrook

probably lead a line each, with DeHaan, Boqvist, Mitchell, Koo Koo already in a committee before we talk about Beudin, Caarlson, Gibson, Seeler, Vlasic(probably another 18 months away but the longest stick of them all).

Plus, as you said the 3 millions, and chance to move one or two of the others for more millions if you need to upgrade the top end, which I whole heartedly endorse. Seabrook's contract is so bad, not even retaining the max half can make us optimistic. It almost has to be a three team trade, where we eat half, trading to a cap devouring team, who eats another half, to get him into a 7th man roll on a power play challenged contender.

 

[KBIB]

Seabrook cannot and will not be traded. Not until the final two years of his contract. He has a NTC. He would be stupid to waive it and right now you would have to throw Dach into the mix to have another team interested.

As for trading Maatta, this was a bad move. If they would have just dumped him before he turned 26, it would have been a 400k cap hit for the next two years instead of the 700k they took now. Maatta was alot better then ppl give him credit for.

What does this mean?

Strome has zero value outside of the Hawks. I can't fathom Strome wasn't on the block and thrown around to other GM's first before Maatta. Or, he's looking to cash in on something bigger then a bridge and other GM's know this.

I for one like Strome and like the idea of three scoring lines with one checking line centered by Kampf only because that's how this team is built. But if I had to get rid of somebody, I would have kept Maatta instead of Strome.

What I think you will see, is Dach become the first line center with Strome and Kane on the second with Toews becoming the third line defensive guy along with Saad.

Which, now makes this draft even more interesting.

What wing at 17 is the most NHL ready? What forward, actually?

 

[RacerX]

Keith
Murphy
Seabrook

probably lead a line each, with DeHaan, Boqvist, Mitchell, Koo Koo already in a committee before we talk about Beudin, Caarlson, Gibson, Seeler, Vlasic(probably another 18 months away but the longest stick of them all).

Plus, as you said the 3 millions, and chance to move one or two of the others for more millions if you need to upgrade the top end, which I whole heartedly endorse. Seabrook's contract is so bad, not even retaining the max half can make us optimistic. It almost has to be a three team trade, where we eat half, trading to a cap devouring team, who eats another half, to get him into a 7th man roll on a power play challenged contender.

Any combination or permutation of those players still translates to a bottom-5 D in the NHL. Nothing to do other than wait until 2024 for all the dead roster money to be purged.

There is no sense in trading one of our very few assets in exchange for shedding the Seabrook contract, we just need to wait it out.

 

[Granada]

So weaken the already weak defense, retain salary, and get a career minor league player to try and fix the cap hell that his awful cap management have the team in in the first place....typical Stan Blowbag.

Yup. Yet another "cross your fingers and hope" move.

Of course, people can say "well, he opened cap space. Great move," but that misses the point somewhat in my view. When you're a GM, and you make a move for a guy, then immediately trade him next off-season when he has a multi-year contract -- I'm sorry, but that's bush-league. Players and GM's around the league -- they take note of shit like that. If you think that doesn't reflect poorly on the organization -- particularly Bowman -- it does. It definitely sends a message and will make any free agents think twice about ever trusting Bowman. And this obviously isn't the first time he's done something like this -- Reasoner and Panarin, etc.

Moreover, what was the point of even trading for Maatta last year in the first place? He really didn't provide depth, he sucked the grand majority of the time he was here; not to mention, Kahun had a decent-enough year last year. So yeah, Bowman opened up cap space -- after trading for a guy he probably shouldn't have traded for in the first place -- and who will now cost around 800,000 out of pocket the next two years. Whoopty-fucking doo.

I'm sorry, but I'm just so sick of Bowman. He is not a good GM, period.

 

[KBIB]

Yup. Yet another "cross your fingers and hope" move.

Of course, people can say "well, he opened cap space. Great move," but that misses the point somewhat in my view. When you're a GM, and you make a move for a guy, then immediately trade him next off-season when he has a multi-year contract -- I'm sorry, but that's bush-league. Players and GM's around the league -- they take note of shit like that. If you think that doesn't reflect poorly on the organization -- particularly Bowman -- it does. It definitely sends a message and will make any free agents think twice about ever trusting Bowman. And this obviously isn't the first time he's done something like this -- Reasoner and Panarin, etc.

Moreover, what was the point of even trading for Maatta last year in the first place? He really didn't provide depth, he sucked the grand majority of the time he was here; not to mention, Kahun had a decent-enough year last year. So yeah, Bowman opened up cap space -- after trading for a guy he probably shouldn't have traded for in the first place -- and who will now cost around 800,000 out of pocket the next two years. Whoopty-fucking doo.

I'm sorry, but I'm just so sick of Bowman. He is not a good GM, period.

Um....

Why would free agents think twice about coming here because Bowman traded Maatta during a year when a pandemic shut the league down to a flat cap?

You do know the situation last year regarding the Maatta and CDH trades, correct?