Maatta To LA For Prospect Morrison

[JimAKABlkhwks918]

Yup. Yet another "cross your fingers and hope" move.

Of course, people can say "well, he opened cap space. Great move," but that misses the point somewhat in my view. When you're a GM, and you make a move for a guy, then immediately trade him next off-season when he has a multi-year contract -- I'm sorry, but that's bush-league. Players and GM's around the league -- they take note of shit like that. If you think that doesn't reflect poorly on the organization -- particularly Bowman -- it does. It definitely sends a message and will make any free agents think twice about ever trusting Bowman. And this obviously isn't the first time he's done something like this -- Reasoner and Panarin, etc.

Moreover, what was the point of even trading for Maatta last year in the first place? He really didn't provide depth, he sucked the grand majority of the time he was here; not to mention, Kahun had a decent-enough year last year. So yeah, Bowman opened up cap space -- after trading for a guy he probably shouldn't have traded for in the first place -- and who will now cost around 800,000 out of pocket the next two years. Whoopty-fucking doo.

I'm sorry, but I'm just so sick of Bowman. He is not a good GM, period.

Bolded 1: For anyone who thinks this isn't an issue, refer back to the period around when WWW passed away, and Rocky hired McDonough...he sat dome guys like Seabrook and Keith down and asked what could be done better by the organ-I-zation...The players talked about how the team didn't even give the guys an equipment bag for the offseason, and how other players around the league were leery of coming to Chicago...these guys are not just profiles on Xbox, they are people and being treated well matters. And they talk to each other.

Bolded 2: Absolutely...no pat on the back for half assed repairing a mess you created.

 

[hawkinmontreal]

I do think it weakens us at d but not by much as I said, mainly from a depth standpoint for if and when there are injuries and we don't have an overabundance of good NHL dmen.

For the most part, I agree. I am fine with the deal because at this point I think the 3+ mil in cap space is of more value than what Maatta brings because of his footspeed issues.

They need a spot for Mitchell and there it is.

 

[Diehardfan]

This is actually pretty funny. Bowman's idiotic retools have you guys thinking about "weakening" the team. LOL Boys, it's over, the window is slammed shut....this team is going nowhere. Instead of worrying about "weakening" the team you should be worrying about if they can find spots for young talent to play, to get a shot at being an NHL player. Losing Maatta....smh.....it's more like ridding themselves of Maatta. Just like he should be trying to dump the likes of Shaw, Smith, De Hahn, Seeler, Carpenter and Nylander. Hawkinmontreal bulls eyed it, moving Maatta opens a spot for Mitchell or any youngster good enough to be a top 6 defenseman for this team. Here's another major blow.....they can't wait too much longer before they have to move Toews and Kane. Yeah, it will painful for me too but you got to move these guys before their talent begins to regress....it's always better to move guys too soon than too late. You still might find some team interested in taking on a $10 mill contract for a guy like Kane but once Father Time starts catching up to him, you might not be able to move him at all.

 

[hawkinmontreal]

This is actually pretty funny. Bowman's idiotic retools have you guys thinking about "weakening" the team. LOL Boys, it's over, the window is slammed shut....this team is going nowhere. Instead of worrying about "weakening" the team you should be worrying about if they can find spots for young talent to play, to get a shot at being an NHL player. Losing Maatta....smh.....it's more like ridding themselves of Maatta. Just like he should be trying to dump the likes of Shaw, Smith, De Hahn, Seeler, Carpenter and Nylander. Hawkinmontreal bulls eyed it, moving Maatta opens a spot for Mitchell or any youngster good enough to be a top 6 defenseman for this team. Here's another major blow.....they can't wait too much longer before they have to move Toews and Kane. Yeah, it will painful for me too but you got to move these guys before their talent begins to regress....it's always better to move guys too soon than too late. You still might find some team interested in taking on a $10 mill contract for a guy like Kane but once Father Time starts catching up to him, you might not be able to move him at all.

That should be the team’s philosophy moving forward, I mentioned it in another post, clean house and see what the prospects have, get a good evaluation on them and starting flushing the rest out.
I agree it would hurt to watch Kane and Toews go, but this is the Chicago Blackhawks, and they deserve another opportunity before they hang up there skates and it won’t be in Chicago.
Diehard you are correct, the window is slammed shut, bolted, padlocked, and reinforced with concrete around it,

 

[Diehardfan]

That should be the team’s philosophy moving forward, I mentioned it in another post, clean house and see what the prospects have, get a good evaluation on them and starting flushing the rest out.
I agree it would hurt to watch Kane and Toews go, but this is the Chicago Blackhawks, and they deserve another opportunity before they hang up there skates and it won’t be in Chicago.
Diehard you are correct, the window is slammed shut, bolted, padlocked, and reinforced with concrete around it,

Exactly. I'd like to see them dump more but the moron has tied his own hands with dumb contracts. I'm thinking of trying to move Kane, Toews and Keith now which could have a trickle down effect of possibly Seabrooke not wanting to come back without all his buddies there and just retire. Even at his age, Keith still has value and his contract isn't so horrible compared to what is getting tossed around these days.

 

[Granada]

Um....

Why would free agents think twice about coming here because Bowman traded Maatta during a year when a pandemic shut the league down to a flat cap?

You do know the situation last year regarding the Maatta and CDH trades, correct?

Um....

1. Because of Bowman's history (not just in a year with a flat cap, but overall).

2. Yes.

 

[Granada]

This is actually pretty funny. Bowman's idiotic retools have you guys thinking about "weakening" the team. LOL Boys, it's over, the window is slammed shut....this team is going nowhere. Instead of worrying about "weakening" the team you should be worrying about if they can find spots for young talent to play, to get a shot at being an NHL player. Losing Maatta....smh.....it's more like ridding themselves of Maatta. Just like he should be trying to dump the likes of Shaw, Smith, De Hahn, Seeler, Carpenter and Nylander. Hawkinmontreal bulls eyed it, moving Maatta opens a spot for Mitchell or any youngster good enough to be a top 6 defenseman for this team. Here's another major blow.....they can't wait too much longer before they have to move Toews and Kane. Yeah, it will painful for me too but you got to move these guys before their talent begins to regress....it's always better to move guys too soon than too late. You still might find some team interested in taking on a $10 mill contract for a guy like Kane but once Father Time starts catching up to him, you might not be able to move him at all.

Do you actually think Bowman is going to do this though? If he does, that's fine -- I get wanting a true rebuild and I want one too -- but I'm not holding my breath and moving a guy like Maatta certainly isn't going to convince me that Bowman has finally "seen the light" so to speak.

We all know the window is shut. It's Bowman that doesn't know and that constantly tries this rebuild on the fly strategy. Hell, the window's been shut for a while now, including last year, and look what happened -- he brings in garbage like Maatta, de Haan, Shaw, Smith, etc.

 

[hawkinmontreal]

Do you actually think Bowman is going to do this though? If he does, that's fine -- I get wanting a true rebuild and I want one too -- but I'm not holding my breath and moving a guy like Maatta certainly isn't going to convince me that Bowman has finally "seen the light" so to speak.

We all know the window is shut. It's Bowman that doesn't know and that constantly tries this rebuild on the fly strategy. Hell, the window's been shut for a while now, including last year, and look what happened -- he brings in garbage like Maatta, de Haan, Shaw, Smith, etc.

That’s his way of keeping his job, he fills Rockys head with illusions that this team is still relevant and as long as Toews and Kane are here there is always a chance.

 

[WestCoastBearsFan]

Honestly this was a good trade for both sides. Y’all didn’t have the cap space for him in the future and we needed a partner for Doughty.

 

[Tater]

Honestly this was a good trade for both sides. Y’all didn’t have the cap space for him in the future and we needed a partner for Doughty.

We?!?!?!?

Kings fans not welcome here.

 

[Granada]

Honestly this was a good trade for both sides. Y’all didn’t have the cap space for him in the future and we needed a partner for Doughty.

You guys should be rebuilding like us, not adding people like Maatta.

 

[WestCoastBearsFan]

You guys should be rebuilding like us, not adding people like Maatta.

Maata is 26 and we have the deepest prospect pool in the NHL.

 

[Granada]

Maata is 26 and we have the deepest prospect pool in the NHL.

Right, but he has zero upside -- he is what he is at this point. Do you consider Maatta a top tandem or even top-4 D-man?

 

[WestCoastBearsFan]

Right, but he has zero upside -- he is what he is at this point. Do you consider Maatta a top tandem or even top-4 D-man?

I think most would consider him a top 4 guy. Especially on a team like LA when the other guys on the back end not named Doughty are babies’ in the NHL. This is more to keep them exposed to 2nd and 3rd line players instead of throwing to the wolves on the top line.

 

[Granada]

I think most would consider him a top 4 guy. Especially on a team like LA when the other guys on the back end not named Doughty are babies’ in the NHL. This is more to keep them exposed to 2nd and 3rd line players instead of throwing to the wolves on the top line.

Disagree. I only think a guy like Maatta is serviceable on a deep team; not on a rebuilding team. He's a d-man you get if you're a cup contender -- like Kempny for Washington or Rutta with TB -- not if you're a rebuilding team.Even against second and third lines, you're still throwing your prospects to the wolves by pairing them together; and Maatta won't be able to carry a prospect on his tandem.

 

[Diehardfan]

I think most would consider him a top 4 guy. Especially on a team like LA when the other guys on the back end not named Doughty are babies’ in the NHL. This is more to keep them exposed to 2nd and 3rd line players instead of throwing to the wolves on the top line.

LOL, he was a Top 4 guy here but the Hawks had one of the worst group of defensemen in the NHL. If you're counting on him being a top 4 in LA, you have a problem.....and if he's the guy the kids are learning from, you got a bigger problem.

 

[WestCoastBearsFan]

LOL, he was a Top 4 guy here but the Hawks had one of the worst group of defensemen in the NHL. If you're counting on him being a top 4 in LA, you have a problem.....and if he's the guy the kids are learning from, you got a bigger problem.

Are you under the impression that the kings are a good team or something?

 

[Diehardfan]

Are you under the impression that the kings are a good team or something?

That's actually irrelevant. Just pointing out that the player they traded for is not very good.

 

[WestCoastBearsFan]

That's actually irrelevant. Just pointing out that the player they traded for is not very good.

If he’s the now the second best defensemen and you didn’t give up much of anything how’s that not a net positive

 

[Diehardfan]

If he’s the now the second best defensemen and you didn’t give up much of anything how’s that not a net positive

I would say that you are just easily pleased....