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houheffna

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Why is Kirk Hinrich being made a scapegoat in this loss? This stuff is getting WAAAAAAAY out of hand....
 

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houheffna wrote:
Why is Kirk Hinrich being made a scapegoat in this loss? This stuff is getting WAAAAAAAY out of hand....

Because he couldn't break down the defense once. It's scary how bad he's gotten on offense. He was one of the biggest reason why we besides Rose and Noah being out. Also he's was absolutely horrible on defense in the 1st half
 

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TheStig wrote:
Riley is very desperate, supposedly he is offering MB/JO/first for Amare. I can't see him not getting something done. Thats why I want us to get a nice start.

Phoenix doesn't like Beasley though. They think him and Clark are very similar. They prefer the Nets offer of Lee/Twill, Yi, Simmons, and multiples first(which is not this years)
 

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Because he couldn't break down the defense once. It's scary how bad he's gotten on offense. He was one of the biggest reason why we besides Rose and Noah being out. Also he's was absolutely horrible on defense in the 1st half

He was one of the biggest reasons why we what? Lost? The biggest reason the Bulls lost is because Dwight Howard can tap dance on Miller's head whenever he wants to and no one can give any resistance at all with Noah out. And...the Magic just have a better team, if we are going to blame Kirk for losses, we should equally be prepared to give him credit for his part in victories...
 

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houheffna wrote:
Because he couldn't break down the defense once. It's scary how bad he's gotten on offense. He was one of the biggest reason why we besides Rose and Noah being out. Also he's was absolutely horrible on defense in the 1st half

He was one of the biggest reasons why we what? Lost? The biggest reason the Bulls lost is because Dwight Howard can tap dance on Miller's head whenever he wants to and no one can give any resistance at all with Noah out. And...the Magic just have a better team, if we are going to blame Kirk for losses, we should equally be prepared to give him credit for his part in victories...

First off you most of not watch the last game we played vs the Magic because Noah sucked in that game only playing for 16 minutes in foul trouble the whole time. Miller was the one who shut down Howard last game although he sucked in this game. I said one of the main problems was Hinrich's inablitily to break down the defense(which is pathetic because he can't even break down an old and broken down Jermaine O'Neal) not the biggest problem. You think Hinrich could of directed the offense to score more than 11 points in 9 minutes in the 1st quarter after Rose got hit. But no we can't say anything bad about the glue guy on the team. I rather take a guy who can actually hit a clutch shot once in their life, but hey thats me. I guess you prefer a guy who uses a little thrust
 

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Really, what would you do if you are the PG, when the only player you can give the ball to is Deng at the moment?

If u ask me PG is the only spot where we don´t have to work on.

Bulls should really concentrate on the other positions.
 

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Dpauley23 wrote:
houheffna wrote:
Because he couldn't break down the defense once. It's scary how bad he's gotten on offense. He was one of the biggest reason why we besides Rose and Noah being out. Also he's was absolutely horrible on defense in the 1st half

He was one of the biggest reasons why we what? Lost? The biggest reason the Bulls lost is because Dwight Howard can tap dance on Miller's head whenever he wants to and no one can give any resistance at all with Noah out. And...the Magic just have a better team, if we are going to blame Kirk for losses, we should equally be prepared to give him credit for his part in victories...

First off you most of not watch the last game we played vs the Magic because Noah sucked in that game only playing for 16 minutes in foul trouble the whole time. Miller was the one who shut down Howard last game although he sucked in this game. I said one of the main problems was Hinrich's inablitily to break down the defense(which is pathetic because he can't even break down an old and broken down Jermaine O'Neal) not the biggest problem. You think Hinrich could of directed the offense to score more than 11 points in 9 minutes in the 1st quarter after Rose got hit. But no we can't say anything bad about the glue guy on the team. I rather take a guy who can actually hit a clutch shot once in their life, but hey thats me. I guess you prefer a guy who uses a little thrust

Dude Kirk is not the reason we lost last night. That stinker was a collective effort. There was no energy & once Rose went out, the entire team curled up into a ball & went to sleep. Not to mention the Magic were shooting lights out from everywhere & we were content to just shoot contested jumpshots all night. Deng & oddly enough Pargo were the only players who seemed to play with any sort of urgency.

We all get that you hate Kirk. But sometimes your unbridled anger for all things Hinrich clouds your rational thinking.
 

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First off you most of not watch the last game we played vs the Magic because Noah sucked in that game only playing for 16 minutes in foul trouble the whole time. Miller was the one who shut down Howard last game although he sucked in this game. I said one of the main problems was Hinrich's inablitily to break down the defense(which is pathetic because he can't even break down an old and broken down Jermaine O'Neal) not the biggest problem. You think Hinrich could of directed the offense to score more than 11 points in 9 minutes in the 1st quarter after Rose got hit. But no we can't say anything bad about the glue guy on the team. I rather take a guy who can actually hit a clutch shot once in their life, but hey thats me. I guess you prefer a guy who uses a little thrust

Miller shut down Howard? What Howard? Juwan Howard? You talking about Dwight Howard?

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Seriously dude...I really don't know what you said after that...that was just friggin crazy! Howard shuts down Howard! Not only did I watch the last game they played against each other...I HAVE SEEN EVERY GAME HOWARD HAS PLAYED THIS SEASON!!! I saw Howard make waste of the Lakers frontcourt not too long ago...but Miller is a Howard stopper....OK!!!


Now back to Hinrich...now that I have read the rest of the quote...the glue guy as you called him missed a clutch shot in this game and after that.....the Magic won by 20...

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

What does a clutch shot have to do with this game? I have no problem criticizing Hinrich...unlike some who think certain players who can have crappy games and then hit a clutch shot are world beaters...I have a realistic view of the players on the team...that said, I will be glad when Hinrich goes, so some of you can somehow find a new whipping boy...
 

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houheffna wrote:
First off you most of not watch the last game we played vs the Magic because Noah sucked in that game only playing for 16 minutes in foul trouble the whole time. Miller was the one who shut down Howard last game although he sucked in this game. I said one of the main problems was Hinrich's inablitily to break down the defense(which is pathetic because he can't even break down an old and broken down Jermaine O'Neal) not the biggest problem. You think Hinrich could of directed the offense to score more than 11 points in 9 minutes in the 1st quarter after Rose got hit. But no we can't say anything bad about the glue guy on the team. I rather take a guy who can actually hit a clutch shot once in their life, but hey thats me. I guess you prefer a guy who uses a little thrust

Miller shut down Howard? What Howard? Juwan Howard? You talking about Dwight Howard?

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Seriously dude...I really don't know what you said after that...that was just friggin crazy! Howard shuts down Howard! Not only did I watch the last game they played against each other...I HAVE SEEN EVERY GAME HOWARD HAS PLAYED THIS SEASON!!! I saw Howard make waste of the Lakers frontcourt not too long ago...but Miller is a Howard stopper....OK!!!


Now back to Hinrich...now that I have read the rest of the quote...the glue guy as you called him missed a clutch shot in this game and after that.....the Magic won by 20...

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

What does a clutch shot have to do with this game? I have no problem criticizing Hinrich...unlike some who think certain players who can have crappy games and then hit a clutch shot are world beaters...I have a realistic view of the players on the team...that said, I will be glad when Hinrich goes, so some of you can somehow find a new whipping boy...

There's criticism...and there's beating a guy to the ground and continuing to do so when he's long unconscious. This is the case with some people's criticism of Kirk here and some people in the media of Ben Gordon. Really, Kirk is not that bad of a player. Yeah fine, he's shooting like crap this year, but really what do you expect? He shoots a lot of 3s and is about 35% on the year from 3. Thus, it sort of makes sense that he's only shooting 38% for the year. When more than half your shots are 3s half the time and you don't make 40% of those, your shooting percentage is going to drop. If nothing else, why has the team played better with Kirk in the starting lineup? If he really does nothing but hurt the team like some of you make it out to be, shouldn't we be playing worse? And when he hasn't played, the team has suffered depth wise. The way some of you put it, it's almost like it's Pargo that's on the court for 30+ minutes per night. It's rather ridiculous. But I guess if he's your scapegoat for us losing, clearly doesn't do anything positive during wins, and probably is the source for all that is evil in the world, I can't stop you from holding that opinion.
 

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TheStig wrote:
Riley is very desperate, supposedly he is offering MB/JO/first for Amare. I can't see him not getting something done. Thats why I want us to get a nice start.

The Suns make off like the did with the Joe Johnson trade there, getting something good for a guy that was going to walk anyway.

Not sure I like it for the Heat though, it's got to kill their defense. Amare plays on the 29th ranked defense in the league right now, and he's a big reason for it being so bad. Maybe he's a big enough offensive upgrade to overcome that, but the Heat could actually get worse if they made the trade.
 

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