Matt Eberflus hired as Bears head coach

[westcoast bear fanatic]

No shit.. I'm talking about the RISK of potentially losing your OC. If Fields has a great year then the chance of our OC getting plucked is VERY high when 100% of his success is pointed to the OC. vs a large part would be pointed to the HC if it was an offensive minded HC and system.

Whats better for the development for fields? A defensive HC and a revolving door at the OC position or a Offensive HC and consistency with the offensive system?

Basically all we can do is hope that our OC is competent enough to do an OK job but not too competent enough to get offered a HC job.. great..

So hire Caldwell as the OC. At his age he's less likely to be hired away than some young buck.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

Toledo, Missouri, Browns, Cowboys, Colts.

Jason Garrett, Eric Mangini, Frank Reich.

This is his employment history.

Does this excite anyone? Does this give anyone confidence?

I like that he has worked under multiple coaches, in multiple places.

 

[JoJoBoxer]

Sigh.....

Yes, sigh ... because you have a ways to go on your learning.

Chris Hewitt, defensive pass game coordinator and secondary coach Hewitt, 47, has spent 10 seasons with the Ravens and was promoted from defensive backs coach to pass game coordinator in 2020. Zrebiec: "Chris Hewitt has paid his dues with the Ravens and been viewed as the heir apparent to Martindale if the latter got a head coaching job.

 

[Nelly]

To be fair, even the clueless CCS posters could install an offense that was almost as good as Nagy's.

My name is Ryan and I've got a friend from high school named Matt. We totally should have applied for the jobs.

 

[remydat]

No shit.. I'm talking about the RISK of potentially losing your OC. If Fields has a great year then the chance of our OC getting plucked is VERY high when 100% of his success is pointed to the OC. vs a large part would be pointed to the HC if it was an offensive minded HC and system.

Whats better for the development for fields? A defensive HC and a revolving door at the OC position or a Offensive HC and consistency with the offensive system?

Basically all we can do is hope that our OC is competent enough to do an OK job but not too competent enough to get offered a HC job.. great..

What is better is for Fields to develop period. Fields had an O minded HC and it failed because the dude could not handle it.

So you are only looking at the risk from your biased perspective. Daboll was great when he was just the OC. But as a HC calling plays he could end up faltering just as Nagy did because it is too much.

At this point none of us know whether Daboll is Nagy or Reid or whether Eberflus is Lovie or Tomlin.

All we know is you are being a whiny cunt about a risk that you have no means to accurately assess at this point.

 

[JimJohnson]

No shit.. I'm talking about the RISK of potentially losing your OC. If Fields has a great year then the chance of our OC getting plucked is VERY high when 100% of his success is pointed to the OC. vs a large part would be pointed to the HC if it was an offensive minded HC and system.

Whats better for the development for fields? A defensive HC and a revolving door at the OC position or a Offensive HC and consistency with the offensive system?

Basically all we can do is hope that our OC is competent enough to do an OK job but not too competent enough to get offered a HC job.. great..

Good point. Mahomes fell apart after Nagy left.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

I like that he has worked under multiple coaches, in multiple places.

So working for Jason Garett and Eric Mangini is a plus for you?

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

Yes, sigh ... because you have a ways to go on your learning.

Is it that I have some learning to do, or is it that you jumped into the conversation midway and haven't read what I have been arguing in this entire thread?

 

[Leomaz]

exactly this. the most important position in the NFL is the QB.. so getting a HC that actually can put together a game plan to help develop that QB should of been the top priority.

Right now if we have ANY success on the offense and Fields looks good next year.. there goes your OC for a HC job and you are back to looking for another OC..

That doesn’t have to be the head coach though.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

So working for Jason Garett and Eric Mangini is a plus for you?

It is if you're refusing to understand the point I'm making.

 

[Dawgsfan1]

There's plenty of examples of QBs developing under non-offensive head coaches.

Lamar Jackson under John Harbaugh.
Ben Roethlisberger under Mike Tomlin.
Josh Allen under Sean McDermott.
Tom Brady under Bill Belichick.
Peyton Manning under Jim Mora.
Matt Stafford under Jim Schwartz.
Matt Ryan under Mike Smith.
Russell Wilson under Pete Carroll.
Ryan Tannehill under Mike Vrabel (kinda)

...and others I'm sure I'm missing. You could also find a lot of examples of QBs failing to become anything underneath an offensive minded head coach: Trubisky (and Fields year 1) as a prime example close to home. Hiring a head coach from a defensive background definitely doesn't preclude you from having a good offense or a team that can develop a QB. Ultimately it'll come down to whether or not we drafted the right guy in Fields or not.

You don't trade the assets the Bears did to grab a quarterback and then hire a defensive head coach. The quarterbacks you listed were available when those teams drafted. The Bears traded assets to get Fields and have spent THE ENTIRE TIME SNCE THEN TO MINIMIZE HIM. The coup de grace was TELLING the media that Fields would have no say in the head coach search. This is a scrub organization, period.

 

[remydat]

yes and all we can do is hope the guy you didnt think was good enough to be a OC (otherwise you would of just hired him as the OC in the first place) somehow turns out to be a competent OC.. but not too competent otherwise your back to the drawing board again..

This is stupid. You may not have hired him as OC at first because the OC you did hire was better or more experienced. You are allowing you bias to let you say stupid shit.

 

[Hawkeye OG]

So working for Jason Garett and Eric Mangini is a plus for you?

Our last HC worked under gawd Andy Reid and how'd that turn out?

I think people place to much emphasis on coaching trees.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

It is if you're refusing to understand the point I'm making.

Well those were two of his coaches and you like that he’s worked multiple places.

 

[RubberBanMan]

Umm passing game coordinator can be a defensive position too and probably is in this situation.

Yeah he was cowboys defensive passing game coordinator 2016-18

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

Our last HC worked under gawd Andy Reid and how'd that turn out?

I think people place to much emphasis on coaching trees.

Maybe get a larger sample pool than just one coach?

Most coaches will fail. So stop with the “our last coach” shit.

Id like to see better coaches on this guys resume.

 

[EDPeezy]

yes and all we can do is hope the guy you didnt think was good enough to be a OC (otherwise you would of just hired him as the OC in the first place) somehow turns out to be a competent OC.. but not too competent otherwise your back to the drawing board again..

The horror.

And what if they win a super bowl and teams want their players and coaches? OMG!!!!

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

Well those were two of his coaches and you like that he’s worked multiple places.

Glad to see which side of my opinion you've dug yourself into.

 

[Dead man walking]

C'mon man, what you have is incurable. We all know it.

I don't know why those on here even reply to him. Just ignore him, or better yet put the idiot on ignore! Old dirtypants is a troll! And a bad one at that!

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

Maybe get a larger sample pool than just one coach?

Which is the case here with Eberflus. So which is it?