Matt Eberflus hired as Bears head coach

[Leomaz]

Arians is an offensive minded HC

And who said he wasn’t? I think you’ve missed the point. All coaches want to move up and you don’t want them to just be placard holders for the head coach. That isn’t a winning formula. What if the Offensive minded head coach let his O.C run his own offense, call the plays etc……and the O.C. Left in 2 years. What is really the difference?

 

[onebud34]

You could tell people who have never had an executive interview. When we run executive searches for clients you collect background data and info as part of setting up an interview. You dont just go into tje interview blind with no idea of the candidate beforehand.

That and they are unaware of the networking that goes on in said business/entertainment venture.

 

[remydat]

And who said he wasn’t? I think you’ve missed the point. All coaches want to move up and you want them to just be placard holders for the head coach. That isn’t a winning formula. What if the Offensive minded head coach let his O.C run his own offense, call the plays etc……and the O.C. Left in 2 years. What is really the difference?

I am still waiting for examples of QBs that failed because they OC left for a HC gig.

 

[ChicagoBearsSinceBirth]

 

[Leomaz]

I am still waiting for examples of QBs that failed because they OC left for a HC gig.

Well it may take him a while, the history of the NFL is long.

 

[remydat]

Well it may take him a while, the history of the NFL is long.

You would think if this was such a big deal for him he should have clear examples to support his point.

 

[Mr. Jones]

Coach Floose is a welcome upgrade from Nagy. and hopefully Poles can be successful in bringing in good players
to develop through the draft and score some decent FA's. The new HC seems to have a good reputation as a leader and teacher and demands accountability from his players. It sounds like he can actually coach his players up and to their strengths. Good riddance to Nagy's rah rah BS and his boneheaded stubbornness.

 

[dbldrew]

Do you have examples of this happening and if so what happened to the QB?

sure when the Bears plucked Nagy from the Chiefs they didnt miss a beat because Ried is the true offensive guy

 

[PrideisBears]

i guess he's pretending to have me on ignore. Will someone ask @dbldrew why he lied about Fields leading the league in turnovers?

Thank you.

He hates Fields and wants him to fail

 

[remydat]

sure when the Bears plucked Nagy from the Chiefs they didnt miss a beat because Ried is the true offensive guy

No I am asking of examples of a QB that was successfully developed by an OC for a D minded head coach falling apart once that OC got a HC job.

For example, when Brady lost his OC as a young QB, he got better with a new OC despite Bellichek being a defensive HC.

Or for example when Russ lost his first OC, he got better with other OCs under a D minded HC in Carrol.

 

[PrideisBears]

sure when the Bears plucked Nagy from the Chiefs they didnt miss a beat because Ried is the true offensive guy

Yes and no. Reid rarely let Nagy call plays. I think if EB was plucked it would hurt

 

[PrideisBears]

No I am asking of examples of a QB that was successfully developed by an OC for a D minded head coach falling apart once that OC got a HC job.

For example, when Brady lost his OC as a young QB, he got better with a new OC despite Bellichek being a defensive HC.

Or for example when Russ lost his first OC, he got better with other OCs under a D minded HC in Carrol.

You can add Matt Ryan in the mix too. He played better under Quinn than he has Smith though the sample size was is small so far

 

[Leomaz]

No I am asking of examples of a QB that was successfully developed by an OC for a D minded head coach falling apart once that OC got a HC job.

For example, when Brady lost his OC as a young QB, he got better with a new OC despite Bellichek being a defensive HC.

Or for example when Russ lost his first OC, he got better with other OCs under a D minded HC in Carrol.

I can’t find who the O.C was in Brady’s first couple seasons. I know Bill O’Brien was the quarterbacks coach.

 

[onebud34]

I can’t find who the O.C was in Brady’s first couple seasons. I know Bill O’Brien was the quarterbacks coach.

Weis was the OC

 

[Leomaz]

Yes and no. Reid rarely let Nagy call plays. I think if EB was plucked it would hurt

Probably not. Reid has won with whomever he has had as O.C.
Bienemy still hasn’t figured out the adjustment for the Bucs defense in the super bowl. Or was it Andy calling the plays?

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

This is the crazy angle that he is taking. He's factually incorrect, maybe Skip Bayless is posting on the CCS?

Nah, Skip would at least be entertaining.

 

[Anytime23]

Probably not. Reid has won with whomever he has had as O.C.
Bienemy still hasn’t figured out the adjustment for the Bucs defense in the super bowl. Or was it Andy calling the plays?

Their issue was that their OL line was decimated and they couldn't block a thing. Mahomes was already injured and running for his life.

 

[Leomaz]

Weis was the OC

So basically he has played for at least 4 different offensive coordinators and won a super bowl with each of them?

 

[dbldrew]

And who said he wasn’t? I think you’ve missed the point. All coaches want to move up and you don’t want them to just be placard holders for the head coach. That isn’t a winning formula. What if the Offensive minded head coach let his O.C run his own offense, call the plays etc……and the O.C. Left in 2 years. What is really the difference?

I know all coaches want to move up. but the most important position in football is the QB.. and I think that having an offensive minded HC that installs his system is the best situation because it guarantees consistency with the most important position. If your OC gets plucked nothing much changes.. just like in KC for example. Do you think it would be in Mahomes best interest if hypothetically Ried was the OC instead of the HC and he got plucked to be the HC from another team? Now Mahomes is a great QB so im not saying he would go from greatness to bust.. but would it be best for him to not have Andy Reid there?

Great OC are going to get plucked.. there is no way to stop it.. unless you make them the HC.

For some reason people are thinking i'm making some proclamation on what will happen... I'm not.. All I'm saying is I like the philosophy of guaranteeing your great OC can never get plucked because he is actually the HC. And the reasoning behind it is because this is a QB driven league that the rules favor the offense so thats why I want that position protected..

 

[onebud34]

So basically he has played for at least 4 different offensive coordinators and won a super bowl with each of them?

I think he only won SB's under McDaniels and Weis with the Pats