Matt Murray bullet dodged

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Friedman reported the Hawks were given permission to work out a contract with Matt Murray that fell thru.

Pens qualified him at 3.75.

Murray is washed up.

Wonder how Crow feels about this...

 

[Raskolnikov]

Friedman reported the Hawks were given permission to work out a contract with Matt Murray that fell thru.

Pens qualified him at 3.75.

Murray is washed up.

Wonder how Crow feels about this...

WoW.

And Suppan is already here.
Is their a super-star going #1 in 2021?

Lehner should have been made the long term guy 12 months ago. His game doesn't get washed up, he just has to squat there and be a boulder.

 

[KBIB]

Rumors are Dubnyk could be had for a 5th rounder.

Stan, wake the **** up

 

[KBIB]

WoW.

And Suppan is already here.
Is their a super-star going #1 in 2021?

Lehner should have been made the long term guy 12 months ago. His game doesn't get washed up, he just has to squat there and be a boulder.

There's a great goalie in the draft mix in 21.....

 

[Raskolnikov]

There's a great goalie in the draft mix in 21.....

Or can we trade up for the Russian in 2020?

Beudin, Boqvist, Saad(half salary retained), the #17, the 2021 1st to Anaheim for the #6?

 

[JimAKABlkhwks918]

Stan saved from his own ineptitude...

 

[KBIB]

Or can we trade up for the Russian in 2020?

Beudin, Boqvist, Saad(half salary retained), the #17, the 2021 1st to Anaheim for the #6?

Boqvist is worth the 6 by himself

 

[Raskolnikov]

Boqvist is worth the 6 by himself

Oh shit man, thats a good one. You had me going for a minute thinking you were some kind of scout or something. Clearly just another hockey nut who didn't watch much of 2020 blackhawks.

There are at least 10 players I would trade for him straight right now in the draft and be done with his defensive liability. 3 of them on defense alone.

Nobody would give that to us.

Boqvist has great offensive prowess, but something is wrong with this organization and we won't give him the freedom to play like Hughes does in Vancouver.

 

[KBIB]

Oh shit man, thats a good one. You had me going for a minute thinking you were some kind of scout or something. Clearly just another hockey nut who didn't watch much of 2020 blackhawks.

There are at least 10 players I would trade for him straight right now in the draft and be done with his defensive liability. 3 of them on defense alone.

Nobody would give that to us.

Boqvist has great offensive prowess, but something is wrong with this organization and we won't give him the freedom to play like Hughes does in Vancouver.

Boqvist is better then every defenseman in this draft offensively. I'd take Sanderson over him on all round game, but it's debatable if this were Boqvist draft year he wouldn't be the first defenseman taken. He has too much potential.

If you really wanna judge him on his play last year after being rushed into the NHL, so be it. He didn't deserve the call up nor did he deserve to be baby sat by a friggin hall of famer.

Next year with a bit of experience under his belt and developing in the NHL, you might be surprised at his development.

 

[Raskolnikov]

Boqvist is better then every defenseman in this draft offensively. I'd take Sanderson over him on all round game, but it's debatable if this were Boqvist draft year he wouldn't be the first defenseman taken. He has too much potential.

If you really wanna judge him on his play last year after being rushed into the NHL, so be it. He didn't deserve the call up nor did he deserve to be baby sat by a friggin hall of famer.

Next year with a bit of experience under his belt and developing in the NHL, you might be surprised at his development.

I've been a big supporter, the leash on him doesn't allow him to do much he is good at, nor do the forwards complete ineptitude defensively. If you cheat forward forget about anybody covering you. They are probably rushing off the ice satisfied in their 20 second shift, having hit nobody, done nothing, and gotten on and off the ice without messing up.

Colloton is starting to make me hate this team. I hate the way these Hawks play hockey.

 

[KBIB]

I've been a big supporter, the leash on him doesn't allow him to do much he is good at, nor do the forwards complete ineptitude defensively. If you cheat forward forget about anybody covering you. They are probably rushing off the ice satisfied in their 20 second shift, having hit nobody, done nothing, and gotten on and off the ice without messing up.

Colloton is starting to make me hate this team. I hate the way these Hawks play hockey.

Im not a fan of JC, but to his defense, he lost the locker room before he even got it.

I highly doubt anybody listens to a head coach over cup winners like Toews, Keith and Seabrook. JC tried to instill a strong forecheck system that was scrapped when the players didn't want to adapt to it, so he went back to the questionable "hey, let's just play pond hockey" strong style you see them playing today.

A head coach with balls would scare this team.

 

[Raskolnikov]

Its just weird to me to have an offensive defenseman and go to that length to have him focus on defense first.

Please take the leash off Boqvist and let him learn from his mistakes. I thought he was ranked 4-6 somewhere in terms of his offensive skill on the Hawks at just 19, but they didn't let him attack or he couldn't sustain the hits necessary to do so and got scared. IDK...maybe just adjusting his skill to the speed of the game.

I hope they didn't ruin his confidence.

 

[RacerX]

Boqvist is better then every defenseman in this draft offensively. I'd take Sanderson over him on all round game, but it's debatable if this were Boqvist draft year he wouldn't be the first defenseman taken. He has too much potential.

If you really wanna judge him on his play last year after being rushed into the NHL, so be it. He didn't deserve the call up nor did he deserve to be baby sat by a friggin hall of famer.

Next year with a bit of experience under his belt and developing in the NHL, you might be surprised at his development.

Yeah, I hope you’re right but I have doubts.

I fear Boqvist is Swedish for Trubisky..

 

[KBIB]

Its just weird to me to have an offensive defenseman and go to that length to have him focus on defense first.

Please take the leash off Boqvist and let him learn from his mistakes. I thought he was ranked 4-6 somewhere in terms of his offensive skill on the Hawks at just 19, but they didn't let him attack or he couldn't sustain the hits necessary to do so and got scared. IDK...maybe just adjusting his skill to the speed of the game.

I hope they didn't ruin his confidence.

Maybe they did?

The way I see it, is Boqvist floor is Gus all over again. His ceiling is a charmin Brian Leetch.(and yes, Leetch could bang with the big boys if they needed, they just didn't need him to).

I don't think putting Boqvist with Keith was a smart move. Keith is a completely different type of defenseman and when he's on his game he's insane. Boqvist will never be that type of everything defenseman nor will he ever be as dirty as Keith. It was stupid asset management and whomever thought that was smart should have his ass kicked open so it resembles the face of the sand people in Star Wars.

Boqvist should have been the top dog on his own pair. Put him with Kookoo, make his mistakes. But that's just me.

How do you take any responsibility when your paired up with one of the best defenseman of his era?

 

[Granada]

Maybe they did?

The way I see it, is Boqvist floor is Gus all over again. His ceiling is a charmin Brian Leetch.(and yes, Leetch could bang with the big boys if they needed, they just didn't need him to).

I don't think putting Boqvist with Keith was a smart move. Keith is a completely different type of defenseman and when he's on his game he's insane. Boqvist will never be that type of everything defenseman nor will he ever be as dirty as Keith. It was stupid asset management and whomever thought that was smart should have his ass kicked open so it resembles the face of the sand people in Star Wars.

Boqvist should have been the top dog on his own pair. Put him with Kookoo, make his mistakes. But that's just me.

How do you take any responsibility when your paired up with one of the best defenseman of his era?

Boqvist with Koko? That would have been pure disaster. I mean, that would have made sense if the goal was to completely destroy the kid's confidence. We have enough players slotted in the wrong roles, and "top dog on his own tandem" isn't a role Boqvist is ready for.

I hate Colliton as much as the next guy, but pairing him with our best defenseman was the only option. Any coach would have done the same.

 

[KBIB]

Boqvist with Koko? That would have been pure disaster. I mean, that would have made sense if the goal was to completely destroy the kid's confidence. We have enough players slotted in the wrong roles, and "top dog on his own tandem" isn't a role Boqvist is ready for.

I hate Colliton as much as the next guy, but pairing him with our best defenseman was the only option. Any coach would have done the same.

Lol wat?

Boqvist paired with Keith was a bad move. Keith has too much responsibility on this defense that Boqvist isn't ready to handle.

Kookoo had the best Corsi among defenseman on the Hawks on top of having more defensive zone starts then offensive. This are just statistical evidence, not eye technique or hive mind blather.

Erik Karlsson, you know, the guy Boqvist gets compared to, didn't get pushed onto the top pairing when he first hit the NHL, was paired with Methot, who's game took off once shotgun with Karlsson.

Boqvist should have been eased into the NHL earning minutes with a partner who compliments him instead of being forced into a situation where he couldn't pick up the slack being partnered with Keith, was a liability in his own end to the point his defensive zone starts were non existent.

Boqvist DZS- 41.
Keith DZS- 46.

That's ridiculous. That's embarrassing. And that's the guy you want to partner him with? El oh El.

Do people on this forum actually watch hockey? Or do they use this forum as an avenue to complain?

 

[Granada]

Lol wat?

Boqvist paired with Keith was a bad move. Keith has too much responsibility on this defense that Boqvist isn't ready to handle.

Kookoo had the best Corsi among defenseman on the Hawks on top of having more defensive zone starts then offensive. This are just statistical evidence, not eye technique or hive mind blather.

Erik Karlsson, you know, the guy Boqvist gets compared to, didn't get pushed onto the top pairing when he first hit the NHL, was paired with Methot, who's game took off once shotgun with Karlsson.

Boqvist should have been eased into the NHL earning minutes with a partner who compliments him instead of being forced into a situation where he couldn't pick up the slack being partnered with Keith, was a liability in his own end to the point his defensive zone starts were non existent.

Boqvist DZS- 41.
Keith DZS- 46.

That's ridiculous. That's embarrassing. And that's the guy you want to partner him with? El oh El.

Do people on this forum actually watch hockey? Or do they use this forum as an avenue to complain?

It's funny you ask if other people watch hockey when literally all you do is cite corsi stats. If anyone doesn't watch hockey here, it's you. Project much?

I've said it before to you and I'll say it again: corsi is shit. It's an unreliable stat. You are judging players based solely on their corsi, which is utterly dumb.

Being paired with the best D-man on the team was the best way to "ease him in." Pairing him with Koko would have been an utter shit show.

 

[RacerX]

Lol wat?

Boqvist paired with Keith was a bad move. Keith has too much responsibility on this defense that Boqvist isn't ready to handle.

Kookoo had the best Corsi among defenseman on the Hawks on top of having more defensive zone starts then offensive. This are just statistical evidence, not eye technique or hive mind blather.

Erik Karlsson, you know, the guy Boqvist gets compared to, didn't get pushed onto the top pairing when he first hit the NHL, was paired with Methot, who's game took off once shotgun with Karlsson.

Boqvist should have been eased into the NHL earning minutes with a partner who compliments him instead of being forced into a situation where he couldn't pick up the slack being partnered with Keith, was a liability in his own end to the point his defensive zone starts were non existent.

Boqvist DZS- 41.
Keith DZS- 46.

That's ridiculous. That's embarrassing. And that's the guy you want to partner him with? El oh El.

Do people on this forum actually watch hockey? Or do they use this forum as an avenue to complain?

I understand the point you are making, but it also sounds a lot like a Boqvist apologist.

From what I've seen, he is hot garbage on the defensive end. He has forward skills but is too small and weak for that position.

A Tweener. Thanks, Stan.

 

[KBIB]

It's funny you ask if other people watch hockey when literally all you do is cite corsi stats. If anyone doesn't watch hockey here, it's you. Project much?

I've said it before to you and I'll say it again: corsi is shit. It's an unreliable stat. You are judging players based solely on their corsi, which is utterly dumb.

Being paired with the best D-man on the team was the best way to "ease him in." Pairing him with Koko would have been an utter shit show.

Actually, I'm basing players on their analytics instead of just saying "this guys bad" and trying to down play those same analytics GM's use in player evaluation.

Where did Corsi become a flawed stat?

Curious

 

[Granada]

Actually, I'm basing players on their analytics instead of just saying "this guys bad" and trying to down play those same analytics GM's use in player evaluation.

Where did Corsi become a flawed stat?

Curious

Many have considered it a flawed stat ever since its inception, actually. Honestly, sometimes I wonder if people even know what corsi really is. It mainly revolves around possession and shots on goal -- there is much more to an individual player's overall game, especially when critiquing a defenseman's overall game.