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Are you going to be this kind of annoying ***** in every rumor about Ben Johnson to the Bears?

Are you one of these fucking meatballs who just is mad that they're not picking the next Mike ditka?

Seriously your shit is getting tired. 🤣
 

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Are you going to be this kind of annoying ***** in every rumor about Ben Johnson to the Bears?

Are you one of these fucking meatballs who just is mad that they're not picking the next Mike ditka?

Seriously your shit is getting tired. 🤣
Or maybe horrible CCS writers need to stop spanning their horrible articles?
 

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What a dumb article that completely ignores the new NFL HC interview and hiring rules. By rule, they cannot even visit with Johnson in person until after January 20th at the earliest.

The NFL literally changed their rules to try and slow down the HC hiring process.

So, no team is allowed to make any 'quick' decision on Johnson or any other coach on a team in the playoffs.

The only reason the Patriots are able to move quickly with Vrabel is that Vrabel was essentially out of coaching in 2024 and is a free agent. And the Patriots made a mockery of the Rooney rule compliance by doing their in person interviews with Pep Hamilton and Byron Leftwich - both of whom have been out of the league for a couple of years and so were available to meet the external, in person requirement.
 

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I’d be leery of Johnson. He could be Nagy 2.0. He’s done a great job as OC but Campbell leads the team and takes most of the pressure off Ben to just focus on his job.
 

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Difference between Nagy and Johnson. Is Johnson actually been calling plays. For 2 and a half years.
Exactly... the only comparison is that they're both Offensive coaches. Nagy called like 5 games and the game plan would be set by Andy reid
 

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I’d be leery of Johnson. He could be Nagy 2.0. He’s done a great job as OC but Campbell leads the team and takes most of the pressure off Ben to just focus on his job.
Nagy didn't design the O nor call plays in KC outside of 2 questionable games. He was a glorified passing game coordinator that got a lot of steam due to a strong endorsement from Ried when it was hot to hire HCs that fell off that tree. He was the next Doug Pederson.

Johnson is his own man and earned every accolade he's given. He hasn't fallen off any particular tree and is a self made commodity. May be why he's hard to pin down tendency wise.

Detroit went from 25th to 5th in scoring from '21 to '22 when Johnson was promoted to OC. His WRs were DJ Chark, Amon-Ra St. Brown, Josh Reynolds, his RB was the same one we had this year and only 2 of his current OL were starting. His O performed almost identically with lessor players and before he was responsible for 'fixing' Goff who has clearly become a more competent QB this last year. He's now a QB you can win because of instead of with and that's on Johnson. Ask Goff.

The only guy you know can 'lead men' are Vrabel who will rotate OCs and Carroll who's 70. I respect Vrabel but it appears he wants to coach at NE and vice versa and is only using the Bear for leverage. Don't tell me you want McCarthy.

Anyone else and you don't know how they manage an NFL locker room. College HC is not at all the same as Pro HC and strong figures like Flores have already show to be, err, too strong.

Do the interviews and pick the best O guy that you know can develop your most important and record influencing commodity, that you also believe can both relate to the players and keep them in line. Finding reasons to not hire any of these guys will leave you without a HC as they all have real or imagined negatives.
 
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Am I going to get fewer likes because MJY liked that?

Come on, man!
 

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I really hope that they don’t. This is the guy with no class. He‘s a smirking dweeb that someone needs to slap off the pencil behind his ear. Dropping 50 on teams on many occasions. Doing trick plays all year, when the game is out of reach? Only to show up your opponent. I despise the guy. Have some class. Act like you’ve been there before. There’s always a hot name. Remember Josh McDaniels? Whatever happened to him…Screw that clown Ben Johnson and give me Mike Vrabel any day. A leader of men, not one that makes a mockery of them.
 
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Nagy didn't design the O nor call plays in KC outside of 2 questionable games. He was a glorified passing game coordinator that got a lot of steam due to a strong endorsement from Ried when it was hot to hire HCs that fell off that tree. He was the next Doug Pederson.

Johnson is his own man and earned every accolade he's given. He hasn't fallen off any particular tree and is a self made commodity. May be why he's hard to pin down tendency wise.

Detroit went from 25th to 5th in scoring from '21 to '22 when Johnson was promoted to OC. His WRs were DJ Chark, Amon-Ra St. Brown, Josh Reynolds, his RB was the same one we had this year and only 2 of his current OL were starting. His O performed almost identically with lessor players and before he was responsible for 'fixing' Goff who has clearly become a more competent QB this last year. He's now a QB you can win because of instead of with and that's on Johnson. Ask Goff.

The only guy you know can 'lead men' are Vrabel who will rotate OCs and Carroll who's 70. I respect Vrabel but it appears he wants to coach at NE and vice versa and is only using the Bear for leverage. Don't tell me you want McCarthy.

Anyone else and you don't know how they manage an NFL locker room. College HC is not at all the same as Pro HC and strong figures like Flores have already show to be, err, too strong.

Do the interviews and pick the best O guy that you know can develop your most important and record influencing commodity, that you also believe can both relate to the players and keep them in line. Finding reasons to not hire any of these guys will leave you without a HC as they all have real or imagined negatives.
Also they had a different OC prior to him (obviously). He was so bad Dan Campbell took over playcalling the offense during the season. So we know Campbell does not get in the way much of calling plays for his OC's based on that. Offense changed completely when Ben Johnson stepped in.

Sure they have some bad ass players on their Offense but how awesome are they really? Amon Ra St. Brown is really good but you'd like to think our receivers even if you argue are not better are pretty damn good too. Montgomery with Chicago was totally different than he is with Detroit. They have a great O-line but are you trying to build a team in Chicago with a bad O-line? Also, who was Goff before Detroit?

I guess what I'm trying to say is that if you build a team properly: great O-line, a couple strong skilled players, and definitely a good but flawed QB, is your team going to be one of the best scoring offenses in the league? Ben Johnson proves he can get an offense performing that way.

Some odd mental gymnastics we pull here is that we want offensive coaches who can coach bad players into playing the best? We're relying on Poles to build a team of great players. Ben Johnson proved he can coach those great players into performing well. Seems like common sense though.
 

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How many years did Josh Mcdaniels call plays, Jerry Seinfeld?
I don't think anyone is guaranteeing the success of Ben Johnson. He's the hottest coaching candidate on the market right now. It would be nice to see the bears get that guy for once. There wasn't much of an indicator that Vrabel was going to be a great head coach before he became one either.
 

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How many years did Josh Mcdaniels call plays, Jerry Seinfeld?
But he just continued the Weiss's O. He didn't create much of anything. That O had one good year with another QB (without playoffs) but relied heavily on Brady under center and QB presnap reads. McDaniels is also a huge penis that his players hated, outside NE where they tolerated him with Brady and Belichick having his back.
 

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I really hope that they don’t. This is the guy with no class. He‘s a smirking dweeb that someone needs to slap off the pencil behind his ear. Dropping 50 on teams on many occasions. Doing trick plays all year, when the game is out of reach? Only to show up your opponent. I despise the guy. Have some class. Act like you’ve been there before. There’s always a hot name. Remember Josh McDaniels? Whatever happened to him…Screw that clown Ben Johnson and give me Mike Vrabel any day. A leader of men, not one that makes a mockery of them.

Oh yeah we don’t like guys with confidence and creativity, we prefer to be good sportsman and get our ass kicked.

Are you crazy? Do you want another Dick Jauron? I want to blow teams out and embarrass them like the Pats did going 16-0.
 

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I don't think anyone is guaranteeing the success of Ben Johnson. He's the hottest coaching candidate on the market right now. It would be nice to see the bears get that guy for once. There wasn't much of an indicator that Vrabel was going to be a great head coach before he became one either.

well, I want a guy with previous NFL head coaching experience who is still in his 40’s. Not some flash in the pan because he has too much grease in there. The guy has zero class and teams will remember how he showed them up. They’ll come back for him no matter where he is.
 

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Can he recognize Caleb’s strengths and design an offense to match? Bears are great at finding square peg/round hole guys that want to install their “system” that the qb does not fit, and then want to get the “right” qb for his stupid system. It’s their best talent……
 

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