'Microsoft doesn't care about its Xbox fanbase'

[HighJump31]

Microsoft Doesn

Really good article you should read. Read the comments too. Any of you Xbox fans feel the same way? Is the 360 becoming a Wii? Are they forgetting their hardcore fans and making their console more of a family/accessible to everyone console?

I'm baffled that they don't have many big name exclusives anymore. I really can't wait for E3 to get here to see what kind of announcements they make.

 

[AE23]

I dont think that the XBox brand has ever posted profits, but remmeber Microsoft not caring about that, that was years ago, when they cared, about the fan base, i guess. Their makin their money in the PC market, and the article is very true. too many companys out there. when i was yonger i was a PS guy my older brother was a XBOX guy, Halo, was a revolution and id sit and watch my brother and his friends play for hours, those days are ova!!

 

[tbo41fan]

the future certainly looks bleak...ive been thinking of getting a ps3 for awhile now because of The Show and free online multiplayer...I know people say there are more people talking on xbox, but i never converse with the general people on there, just my friends...if I can get the money together, I am going to buy a ps3 before the new NHL game comes out

 

[Capt. Serious]

I play NHL mostly. So, not worth the money because The Show is on the PS3.

Stupid to spend all that coin for one game.

 

[Undisputed]

Great article, but it may be rushed considering this is about the first year since X-Box exclusives have been few and far between. If it's the same story next year, then everything in that article may be truth.

I hate the Kinect, I hate the Move, and I hate the Wii. That type of gaming will destroy everything I grew up loving about video games. I wouldn't be surprised if every gaming console abandoned controller gaming for the most part with the next generation consoles, especially when you consider how well the WII did in sales. Motion gaming sadly seems to be the future.

Tell you what, I'm loyal to no company. If the next X-Box comes out and it's trash, I'm going for the Playstation. If the X-Box 360 continues to turn it's nose at games I like and focuses on the Kinect, then I may have to let my LIVE account expire. I remember when the regular X-Box was out, I was a PS2 guy. But the 360 converted me with Gears of War and it's well designed controller. It's looking more and more like I'm buying my next gen console from Sony. Hopefully their online network is much better by then.

 

[AddisonStation]

Xbox sucks

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

PS3 is becoming a monopoly

suck it

 

[IvyPickin87]

I WAS an xbox guy, and i loved the online system on xbox. But I freaking love my PS3 trading in my xbox was the best move i could make. PS3 is the system to have if you are a sports gamer. And PS3 has COD thats enough for me. The only game i can honestly say I am going to miss on Xbox is Gears of War... I will have to play the final chapter of the campaign on somebodys box to find out what goes on. But Halo is *** now so **** the xbox. Trust me xbox guys if you are on the fence take the leap you will not regret it.

 

[Gunzaan]

I love how short-sighted people are.

There is no doubt that this is the first year that PS3 will have better exclusives then the Xbox, so puff your chests and proclaim the war won! Bet on Sony, a company that is going to be financially REELING with Japan's problems (aka the $$$ put into their video game department will be less in upcoming years).

There is no doubt that Microsoft is feeling out the "family/Wii" market with the Kinect. Why not? It's a smart business move, since the Wii has no competition, in that particular market, and Microsoft has the $$$ to blow on the risk. That doesn't necessarily mean that is their future. You guys do realize that both Microsoft and Sony are working on the next generation system, right? Could it be that Microsoft can tell that it's exclusives were getting stale and that this generation of consoles needs to push forward? Could it be that Sony, slightly desperate to get some market share, is going balls out right now?

You also have to realize that just because the PS3, this year, will have a better gaming library doesn't magically make it easier for developers to make a game for. The PS3's problem has always been that developers have to spend a lot more time on the PS3 version of a game, graphically, as opposed to the 360. That really hasn't changed.

Enjoy the PS3 exclusives for the upcoming future. I know I will. I just love the fanbois for certain consoles. If you are into gaming, there is no excuse for having both systems, so I don't understand the hatred for one or the other. I will be enjoying the exclusives for both systems, and more importantly, the PC. The PC, for my gaming tastes, year in and year out had better exclusives then the PS3 or 360. Shit, the game of the year is going to be Civilization V, hands down (for me). The only competition it will have is Skyrim, and with the PC, Skyrim will have replay value for the next 10 years with all of the mods that come out in the PC community.

So why puff your chests? If you want to brag about one system over the other, all it means to me is that you are too pussy of a gamer to own both systems (and really, you should own a gaming PC, too).

 

[bleacherbum54]

I WAS an xbox guy, and i loved the online system on xbox. But I freaking love my PS3 trading in my xbox was the best move i could make. PS3 is the system to have if you are a sports gamer. And PS3 has COD thats enough for me. The only game i can honestly say I am going to miss on Xbox is Gears of War... I will have to play the final chapter of the campaign on somebodys box to find out what goes on. But Halo is *** now so **** the xbox. Trust me xbox guys if you are on the fence take the leap you will not regret it.

I have both and love both

 

[Capt. Serious]

Xbox sucks

Keep hatin..

 

[HighJump31]

Good response. A few points-

I love how short-sighted people are.

They're just extreme brand supporters. Like Coke vs. Pepsi, Nike vs. Adidas, but more extreme. I say let them enjoy whichever brand they love more.

There is no doubt that this is the first year that PS3 will have better exclusives then the Xbox, so puff your chests and proclaim the war won!

PS3 had better games in 2010 as well.
360: Halo Reach, Fable III, Splinter Cell: Conviction, Alan Wake, Crackdown 2, Metro 2033
PS3: Heavy Rain, God of War III, MAG, Gran Turismo 5, White Knight Chronicles, Yakuza 3, Modnation Racers, 3D Dot Game Heroes, MLB 10 The Show

2009 too
360: Halo 3:ODST, Forza 3, Halo Wars
PS3: Killzone 2, MLB 09 The Show, InFamous, Demons Souls, Uncharted 2, Ratchet and Clank Future: A Crack in Time

Bet on Sony, a company that is going to be financially REELING with Japan's problems (aka the $$$ put into their video game department will be less in upcoming years).

Really doubt that they'll be "REELING". Sony is more of a global company. They aren't just based in one location. SCEA and SCEE are huge parts that handle just as much as SCEJ. Three main headquarters. Plus Sony's biggest games aren't made in Japan. Uncharted is made in US, Resistance made in US, God of War made in US. Sure, if a tsunami and earthquake decimated California, Sony would be royally screwed.

Could it be that Sony, slightly desperate to get some market share, is going balls out right now?

I don't think releasing the next installments of their franchises is really "going balls out" for this year. Those games were going to be released sooner or later. And even next year there's sure to be another God of War game, possibly 3 Metal Gear Solid games (at least one multiplat though), a Sly Cooper game, and you know there will be more. Sony just has a huge first party library, unlike Microsoft.

You also have to realize that just because the PS3, this year, will have a better gaming library doesn't magically make it easier for developers to make a game for. The PS3's problem has always been that developers have to spend a lot more time on the PS3 version of a game, graphically, as opposed to the 360. That really hasn't changed.

That was the case when the PS3's lifespan started. Nobody wanted to make games for them. Valve boss Gabe Newell didn't hide his hatred for the PS3. Until last E3 where he showed up on stage to say Portal 2 was coming to the PS3 and would be the best version. All it takes is developers getting comfortable making games on the system. The first party developers are used to it now, and you're seeing it with more of Sony's developers putting out more games. Third party exclusives are only a bonus.

If you are into gaming, there is no excuse for having both systems, so I don't understand the hatred for one or the other.

Brand fans. Happens with everything. And some people don't want to spend money on more than one console. I went through two RROD's and didn't want to go back, so I've stuck with the PS3 ever since. Plus most of the games today are on both consoles so you really only need one.

Shit, the game of the year is going to be Civilization V, hands down (for me). The only competition it will have is Skyrim

Uncharted 3

So why puff your chests? If you want to brag about one system over the other, all it means to me is that you are too pussy of a gamer to own both systems (and really, you should own a gaming PC, too).

Most have owned both, like me, but one console felt like committing suicide repeatedly. You don't need both unless you're a journalist, have a large family (one for each child), or have a nice paycheck to invest in multiple consoles and game libraries. One of the two consoles is perfectly fine. Doesn't make anybody a pussy.

 

[DewsSox79]

I have not really gotten into my PS3 just hardcore game on the xbox. I will probably only game on xbox in sept for gears of war 3, and when i get tired of that im done with xbox as a whole.

 

[Gunzaan]

Good response. A few points-

They're just extreme brand supporters. Like Coke vs. Pepsi, Nike vs. Adidas, but more extreme. I say let them enjoy whichever brand they love more.

PS3 had better games in 2010 as well.
360: Halo Reach, Fable III, Splinter Cell: Conviction, Alan Wake, Crackdown 2, Metro 2033
PS3: Heavy Rain, God of War III, MAG, Gran Turismo 5, White Knight Chronicles, Yakuza 3, Modnation Racers, 3D Dot Game Heroes, MLB 10 The Show

2009 too
360: Halo 3:ODST, Forza 3, Halo Wars
PS3: Killzone 2, MLB 09 The Show, InFamous, Demons Souls, Uncharted 2, Ratchet and Clank Future: A Crack in Time


Really doubt that they'll be "REELING". Sony is more of a global company. They aren't just based in one location. SCEA and SCEE are huge parts that handle just as much as SCEJ. Three main headquarters. Plus Sony's biggest games aren't made in Japan. Uncharted is made in US, Resistance made in US, God of War made in US. Sure, if a tsunami and earthquake decimated California, Sony would be royally screwed.


I don't think releasing the next installments of their franchises is really "going balls out" for this year. Those games were going to be released sooner or later. And even next year there's sure to be another God of War game, possibly 3 Metal Gear Solid games (at least one multiplat though), a Sly Cooper game, and you know there will be more. Sony just has a huge first party library, unlike Microsoft.


That was the case when the PS3's lifespan started. Nobody wanted to make games for them. Valve boss Gabe Newell didn't hide his hatred for the PS3. Until last E3 where he showed up on stage to say Portal 2 was coming to the PS3 and would be the best version. All it takes is developers getting comfortable making games on the system. The first party developers are used to it now, and you're seeing it with more of Sony's developers putting out more games. Third party exclusives are only a bonus.


Brand fans. Happens with everything. And some people don't want to spend money on more than one console. I went through two RROD's and didn't want to go back, so I've stuck with the PS3 ever since. Plus most of the games today are on both consoles so you really only need one.


Uncharted 3


Most have owned both, like me, but one console felt like committing suicide repeatedly. You don't need both unless you're a journalist, have a large family (one for each child), or have a nice paycheck to invest in multiple consoles and game libraries. One of the two consoles is perfectly fine. Doesn't make anybody a pussy.

I'm not as great with the quotes are you are, so I will just respond from here.

- I will take those 360 exclusives in 2010 and 2009 over the PS3 exclusives anyday. And I know there were more 360 titles during those years then what you stated. Lazy at the moment. The fact that someone would actually include White Knight Chronicles and Yakuza 3 as positive exclusives is laughable.

- Yes, Sony is an "international company" aka Japan and California. Sony also makes a solid profit from their Japanese based departments that concentrate on JRPGs, anime, pokeman, and other crazy Japanese crap. A decent portion of their consumer base aren't going to be buying video games in the near future. That isn't even considering research and development, which is a focal point for the future, obviously. If you hear that Sony isn't going to be hurt by everything happening in Japan, post it, please because all indications point towards a regression.

- You are probably correct in that Sony isn't going "balls out" with exclusives. It's more of a scenario in which the 360's exclusives have fazed out and they haven't come out with new ones, whereas the PS3's exclusives are starting to be dominant. And for me, give me 1 more Metal Gear solid in trade for the next 4 GOW titles! Metal Gear for PS3 is a top 10 game of all time for me. *drool*

- As far as developers becoming more comfortable with PS3's hardware, well yah, of course. They have had plenty of time to deal with it. The issue, and still is, is that if a game wants to come out multiplatform, 360/Wii/PC/PS3 (and in most cases, w/o the Wii), it has to spend more time to make it compatible with the PS3. That is what hurt it for the majority of this era.

- Uncharted 3 - Agree to disagree Indiana Jones cop-out that is easy on "hard mode" and has very little replay value! (I've played 1 & 2, beat both once on normal and hard.)

- You can have a low paying job, a wife and a kid and have 2 consoles. A console = 2 games. Each console has 2-3 unique games per year that are worth buying. If you are posting in a gaming section on an internet-based message board, you can easily have both systems.

Overall, I agree with the PS3 supporters that in the next 2 years, the PS3 does look more attractive then the 360. I guess I would say this: temper your enthusiasm. The PS3 is like the Houston Rockets while MJ decided to play baseball. Enjoy the limelight until the next generation. And all the while, there is a god relaxing in the sky laughing at all the drama, which is the PC.

 

[Crystallas]

Also bare in mind that a lot of developers are growing pretty angry with the API exclusiveness with games in general.

You'll soon read more and more about how engine developers are working hard with ATi and nVidia to get around the requirements for DirectDraw-likes and GL/CL standards, in favor of cutting out the middlemen in the software industry wherever possible.

In english, developers are going to do away with MANY games on all platforms. They will code entirely new engines for these games, sell the rights to the game stories and concepts, and let 3rd parties use their engines to sell the finished products. Some of that happens now, but nowhere near the scale that companies would like it to be.

In the end, this means exclusive licensing for any platform or system will slowly die off. Instead, you'll see microsoft buying content rights, sony buying content rights, and then they will re-license your favorite games back onto competitors systems, because they all make a little money off it. Platformers are going to always exist, but it's possible that Nintendo might hold off on building a new console, use its rights over such a huge franchise, and release a Mario for PS4 or Xbox362 to make some $$ on the side before it releases their next product. Halo on Playstation ect. It's going to give gamers more variety, and access to more neutral networks and coded addons.

 

[HighJump31]

- I will take those 360 exclusives in 2010 and 2009 over the PS3 exclusives anyday. And I know there were more 360 titles during those years then what you stated. Lazy at the moment. The fact that someone would actually include White Knight Chronicles and Yakuza 3 as positive exclusives is laughable.

Yakuza 3 has the same exact Metacritic score as Fable 3. 80/100. Shows how weak the 360 exclusives are when one of their top games is equal to a maybe top 20 PS3 game. Just because you didn't like them, doesn't mean they weren't a success. I hated GTA4, but it was a success.
2010 360 exclusives I didn't mention:
Tropico 3
Risen
Espgaluda II Black Label
Supreme Commander 2
Sherlock Holmes vs. Jack the Ripper
Ketsui: Kizuna Jigoku Tachi EXTRA
DeathSmiles IIX
Naval Assault: The Killing Tide
Monster Hunter Frontier
DeathSmiles
Ninety-Nine Nights II
MorphX
That's it. Those are some real appealing games right there. :nope:

- Yes, Sony is an "international company" aka Japan and California. Sony also makes a solid profit from their Japanese based departments that concentrate on JRPGs, anime, pokeman, and other crazy Japanese crap. A decent portion of their consumer base aren't going to be buying video games in the near future. That isn't even considering research and development, which is a focal point for the future, obviously. If you hear that Sony isn't going to be hurt by everything happening in Japan, post it, please because all indications point towards a regression.

This is the only thing you'll find. From March 14th: "Reports suggests that as many as 12,000 PS3s and 5,600 Xbox 360 consoles were swept away by the tsunami. Sony also had to shut down six factories in Fukushima and Miyazaki after the tremore hit Japan. These factories prodcued Blu-ray discs and other products, including PS3s. Sony is still accessing the damage done to these factories."
I've been googling every combination of words to find something and the only things you'll find are people talking about digital cameras and Sony Ericsson. Sony even came out and said the NGP will arrive on schedule. And a lot of their stuff isn't even manufactured in Japan. China makes quite a bit of PS3's/other Sony products. So they only had to shut down just 6 factories. If they were really in danger, you'd see articles all over Kotaku.com about it. There's nothing.

- Uncharted 3 - Agree to disagree Indiana Jones cop-out that is easy on "hard mode" and has very little replay value! (I've played 1 & 2, beat both once on normal and hard.)

Best series on either console (Game of the Year awards speak for themselves)

- You can have a low paying job, a wife and a kid and have 2 consoles. A console = 2 games. Each console has 2-3 unique games per year that are worth buying. If you are posting in a gaming section on an internet-based message board, you can easily have both systems.

Again, you don't need both consoles. Majority of the games are on both. If you want FPS's and a social console, get a 360. If you want everything else, get a PS3. Has nothing to do with posting on a message board either. Not sure what you mean by that.

I guess I would say this: temper your enthusiasm. The PS3 is like the Houston Rockets while MJ decided to play baseball. Enjoy the limelight until the next generation.

You make it sound like once this generation is over the next Sony console will be shit. Definitely won't be the case. Sony knows how not to start off shitty since they've learned from their mistakes with the PS3 launch. Rumors suggest they're keeping the same Cell processor so developers will be used to developing for it. And of course, they have their massive library of first party titles and developers that will never disappear. Even second party developers that makes franchises that are owned by Sony.

 

[HighJump31]

In the end, this means exclusive licensing for any platform or system will slowly die off. Instead, you'll see microsoft buying content rights, sony buying content rights, and then they will re-license your favorite games back onto competitors systems, because they all make a little money off it. Platformers are going to always exist, but it's possible that Nintendo might hold off on building a new console, use its rights over such a huge franchise, and release a Mario for PS4 or Xbox362 to make some $$ on the side before it releases their next product. Halo on Playstation ect. It's going to give gamers more variety, and access to more neutral networks and coded addons.

I just have a hard time seeing games made by Sony owned companies (Sony Santa Monica, Naughty Dog, Media Molecule, etc) being brought to other consoles in the future.

The only way I see that happening is, like you said with Nintendo holding off on another console, going the Sega route and getting out of the console business. I'm sure a lot of people back in the 90's thought they'd never see Sonic on the Nintendo or Playstation.

 

[IvyPickin87]

I have not really gotten into my PS3 just hardcore game on the xbox. I will probably only game on xbox in sept for gears of war 3, and when i get tired of that im done with xbox as a whole.

yea yea heard this before. Just nut up buy the show and play it in all of its glory

 

[Crystallas]

I just have a hard time seeing games made by Sony owned companies (Sony Santa Monica, Naughty Dog, Media Molecule, etc) being brought to other consoles in the future.

The only way I see that happening is, like you said with Nintendo holding off on another console, going the Sega route and getting out of the console business. I'm sure a lot of people back in the 90's thought they'd never see Sonic on the Nintendo or Playstation.

I'm pretty sure this is going to happen because the developers have been hinting towards it. However, I don't think they will cross-platform anything so good that would normally make a platform great unless they are desperate, and none of the big-3 are desperate.

 

[poodski]

I would still have considered Mass Effect 2 a 360 exclusive for 2010. (I know its on the PS3 but came a full year later, and was the GOTY for 2010)

Regardless there is still no reason own both IMO. Each system has games worth playing. I have a 360, and have no real reason to buy a PS3. Could I buy one? Sure. I could buy one today and it wouldn't really affect my life I just don't see a reason to. Will I own one eventually? Probably if I can find a really good deal on one, but to me its not worth $300 for one, especially when I can't play PS2 games (I know you can on a few of the old ones, but its ridiculous you can't play PS2 games on the new ones, and honestly that's probably the biggest reason I haven't bought one because it is absolutely inexcusable for Sony to not have that capability).

To me the only reason to have a PS3 is to play Little Big Planet or Uncharted. No other games on the console interest me at all.

Now if PS3 would announce Dark Cloud 3 I would buy one 14 seconds after they announced it.