Luke
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The thing about mayocks "top 5" by position is that he changes them quite a bit between now and the draft. I usually take them with a grain of salt this time of the year.
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They all do, and they all should be. This is why I LOL'd at the January "there are no first round QBs" talk.
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Followed by the classic "Mock Draft" from the same writer(s) with three QB's going in the Top 10 and one writer putting a QB going at #3 that ended up not even declaring.
Put Goff, Wentz, and Lynch side by side with Kizer, Watson, and Trubisky...you really going to tell me last year's class was better?
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What do top 5s have to do with where a player will be picked? You can rank the quarterbacks and still not think they are going in the 1st.
By the way, I don't recall the "there are no 1st round QB" talk. I've seen a lot of people say there are none worth a high first round pick, and more say that none are worth a 1st round pick but they will be picked in the 1st round. But most analysts have had Trubisky solidly in the first for a while.
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....Wut...? It was all over these boards. From talk of Watson being a 3rd(?!) rounder to guys saying there were none worth first rounders. These draft threads are a clusterfuck now but it's all over the place.
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They are all pretty crappy prospects.
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I'm saying all pre-combine mocks should be taken with a pinch of salt. All analysts' mocks change, as do their orders and positioning. A few weeks ago the discussion was whether any QBs would go in round one and that the Bears might have their pick of the best ones at 36. Now things are starting to take their usual shape with at least two of the top three having been mocked in the top 3, and we aren't even at the combine yet.
And yes, we know you don't like Deshaun Watson.
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Saying there aren't any worth a 1st rounder is different then saying there won't be any 1st rounder. I don't think any of these QBs are 1st round caliber prospects, but there will almost certainly be QBs taken in the 1st. I mean, if E.J. Manuel, Blaine Gabbert, Jake Locker, Johnny Manziel, Christian Ponder etc can get picked in the 1st, then similarly flawed prospects like Trubisky and Watson should have no problem being overdrafted.
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The value of the position varies from team to team. Ask the Cowboys.
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OMG, seriously, STFU.
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No.
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Well he was never considered a 1st round prospect and was taken in 4th so...no.
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Now if his name was David, I'd be all for it.
Because as everyone knows...David Webb is Jason Bourne.
Now that'd be a helluva quarterback!
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I agree with Webb, Davis, and McCaffery
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I am fine with Kizer as I have said he has the most physical upside.
But the Bears are not set up at all for him.
-Average OTs for a QB who's biggest asset is standing in the pocket and pushing down the field.
-No speed at WR hurts as well. Kizer is not accurate enough to dink and dunk, you need to offset the missed lay ups with big passes down field.
But the Bears are not set up at all for him.
-Average OTs for a QB who's biggest asset is standing in the pocket and pushing down the field.
-No speed at WR hurts as well. Kizer is not accurate enough to dink and dunk, you need to offset the missed lay ups with big passes down field.
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Is anyone else scared af about how visible the bears were in scouting kaaya this year?
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Nah. It's an optics issue. Go read stuff from other teams boards/beat writers etc. The stories we got about the Bears and Kaaya are the same shit other teams are reading about "GM X viewed QB X 7 times this year in person!"
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I still think Kaaya stinks.