MinorLeagueBall's Top 20+ Cubs Prospects

Lex L.

New member
Joined:
Apr 21, 2010
Posts:
2,301
Liked Posts:
253
I wouldn't be surprised if Vogelbach ends up being the best off that current list. He doesn't really look like a ball player until you see him swing the bat. He has a compact swing and tons of power. It would help if he would get with a trainer.
 

Captain Obvious

CCS Donator
Donator
Joined:
Jul 31, 2010
Posts:
4,967
Liked Posts:
697
Turner and Castellanos would be great... but we'd have to throw in another piece. If it was Byrd or Marms, I wouldn't have a problem with that.
 

CODE_BLUE56

Ded
Donator
CCS Hall of Fame '20
Joined:
Apr 18, 2010
Posts:
19,725
Liked Posts:
4,699
Location:
Texas
Turner and Castellanos would be great... but we'd have to throw in another piece. If it was Byrd or Marms, I wouldn't have a problem with that.

turner,castellanos(and possibly a throw in) for garza and byrd?
 

CODE_BLUE56

Ded
Donator
CCS Hall of Fame '20
Joined:
Apr 18, 2010
Posts:
19,725
Liked Posts:
4,699
Location:
Texas
That'd be nice. But it won't happen because the Tigers have a pretty full OF.

havent looked at their farm system...do they have any guys coming up in the OF...

they do have a solid young CF in austin jackson i hadnt looked at...that would probably be the reason for them not wanting byrd..or if they byrd as a pinch hitter or something...but i doubt that

their OF really isnt that full..or perhaps full of great players
 

waldo7239117

Driving Wreckless DA Best
Donator
Joined:
May 10, 2010
Posts:
11,225
Liked Posts:
788
They need bullpen guys, so Marmol would seem more logical.
 

Pepe Silvia

Where's my mail?
Joined:
May 26, 2010
Posts:
173
Liked Posts:
16
They need bullpen guys, so Marmol would seem more logical.

I would LOVE to get those two guys back, but I don't know if I would want to sell so low on Marmol. I know he was pretty brutal last year, but before that he was always one of the most unhittable pitchers in the majors. If we were to trade Marmol along with Garza, I'd like to get 1-2 mid level spects back too.
 

Capt. Serious

CCS Donator
Donator
Joined:
Apr 17, 2010
Posts:
19,670
Liked Posts:
6,438
Location:
Chicago
Now if we could acquire Turner AND Castellanos for Garza, Turner would be our only A prospect and Castellanos would be another B+, tied with Jackson and Rizzo... pretty good system there.

Tigers aren't trading him.
 

Jntg4

Fire Forum Moderator
Donator
Joined:
Apr 26, 2010
Posts:
26,017
Liked Posts:
3,297
Location:
Minnesota
My favorite teams
  1. Chicago White Sox
  2. Chicago Cubs
  1. Chicago Fire
  1. Chicago Bulls
  1. Chicago Bears
  1. Chicago Blackhawks
  1. Chicago State Cougars
  2. DePaul Blue Demons
  3. Illinois-Chicago Flames
  4. Loyola Ramblers
  5. Northern Illinois Huskies
  6. Northwestern Wildcats
Tigers aren't trading him.

They said they aren't trying to trade him, not that they wouldn't.

And later that day another report came out saying that he is available in the rigth deal, they just aren't shopping him.
 

bleacherbum54

GoCubsGo
Joined:
Apr 3, 2011
Posts:
2,807
Liked Posts:
641
Location:
Indianapolis
Zeke DeVoss will be in the top 10 by the end of the year imo
 

bleacherbum54

GoCubsGo
Joined:
Apr 3, 2011
Posts:
2,807
Liked Posts:
641
Location:
Indianapolis
hopefully Vogelbach develops he could be a nice trade chip in a few years if Rizzo is what he should be.
 

bleacherbum54

GoCubsGo
Joined:
Apr 3, 2011
Posts:
2,807
Liked Posts:
641
Location:
Indianapolis
After their recent trade acquisitions, what would BA's Cubs Top 10 Prospects list look like and where would the farm system rank? Also, what do you see as the possible upside for Chris Volstad?

Dale Roberts
Calvert City, Ky.

With the Cubs' recent trades, how high would first baseman Anthony Rizzo rank on the Cubs Top 10? Would righthander Zach Cates, outfielder Dave Sappelt and second baseman Ronald Torreyes all fall into the second 10?

Jon Kauffmann-Kennel
Elkhart, Ind.

When I listed my personal overall Top 50 in the 2012 Prospect Handbook, I had Brett Jackson at No. 28, Javier Baez at No. 31 and Rizzo at No. 42, so that would put Rizzo third on an updated Cubs list. I like Rizzo's power potential and think he's the third-best first-base prospect in baseball (behind the Astros' Jonathan Singleton and the Padres' Yonder Alonso), but Jackson and Baez are up-the-middle players and Baez has the bat to be an impact player if he moves down the line.

None of Chicago's other acquisitions would crack the Top 10. There's depth in the farm system, so if I were updating the Cubs Top 30 I wrote for the Handbook, I'd put Torreyes, Cates and Sappelt (in that order) in the back half of that list. Torreyes is a career .364 hitter in the lower minors, but he's also 5-foot-7 and lacks a second standout tool, so he's really going to have to max out what he has to make it as a big league regular. Cates has a strong arm but is relatively new to pitching and has a lot of work to do, while Sappelt looks like a fourth outfielder who's overmatched in center field.

In our preliminary system rankings in the Handbook, we put Chicago at No. 14. When we release our final rankings this spring, the Cubs' moves will push them up a spot or two.

As for Volstad, I thought he was a nice pickup in the Carlos Zambrano trade. Chicago might have released Zambrano if it couldn't have traded him. Though the Cubs had to eat $15 million of Zambrano's $18 million salary for 2012, they got a young, durable starter. Volstad may not be more than a No. 4 starter because he doesn't miss enough bats, but he'll help Chicago more than Zambrano would have.

BaseballAmerica.com: Prospects: Ask BA
 

Jntg4

Fire Forum Moderator
Donator
Joined:
Apr 26, 2010
Posts:
26,017
Liked Posts:
3,297
Location:
Minnesota
My favorite teams
  1. Chicago White Sox
  2. Chicago Cubs
  1. Chicago Fire
  1. Chicago Bulls
  1. Chicago Bears
  1. Chicago Blackhawks
  1. Chicago State Cougars
  2. DePaul Blue Demons
  3. Illinois-Chicago Flames
  4. Loyola Ramblers
  5. Northern Illinois Huskies
  6. Northwestern Wildcats
Houston, we have a real farm system!

Houston, you don't though, haha.

When Garza's traded, we might crack Top 10 then...
 

Jntg4

Fire Forum Moderator
Donator
Joined:
Apr 26, 2010
Posts:
26,017
Liked Posts:
3,297
Location:
Minnesota
My favorite teams
  1. Chicago White Sox
  2. Chicago Cubs
  1. Chicago Fire
  1. Chicago Bulls
  1. Chicago Bears
  1. Chicago Blackhawks
  1. Chicago State Cougars
  2. DePaul Blue Demons
  3. Illinois-Chicago Flames
  4. Loyola Ramblers
  5. Northern Illinois Huskies
  6. Northwestern Wildcats
Houston, we have a real farm system!

Houston, you don't though, haha.

When Garza's traded, we might crack Top 10 then...
 

AdamGreene

New member
Joined:
Jan 5, 2012
Posts:
4
Liked Posts:
6
Location:
Tennessee
I introduced myself in the main thread, but see a lot of new people in this one, so I'll do a short one again. I'm Adam Greene. I'm the beat writer for the Cubs Double-A team, the Tennessee Smokies, for the Knoxville News Sentinel and I write monthly feature for the Cubs' Vine Line Magazine on the team.

I thought I might jump in here and give you my thoughts on some of these guys I've watched and gotten to know first hand.

1. Brett Jackson OF B+ (1st Round, 2009 Draft) AAA Iowa
The real deal. Super fast baserunner and a deadly bat. He started out last season on fire, slumped in the middle and came out of it early in the second half slaughtering the ball.

5. Trey McNutt RHP B- (32nd Round, 2009 Draft) AA Tennessee
Good stuff and a great kid. He battled a lot of injuries last year and especially had trouble with blisters on his throwing hand early in the season. When he was on, he was the best pitcher on the staff. He'll probably be back in Tenn for the first half.

8. Junior Lake SS C+ (International Free Agent) AA Tennessee
Fast kid and good on defense. It took him a long time to find his swing and he's still VERY raw as a hitter. He'll be Double-A all season, most likely.

9. Welington Castillo C C+ (International Free Agent) MLB Chicago NL
Probably will top out as an MLB No. 2 at best. Steve Clevenger will push him in Iowa this year. Last season was Clev's first as the No. 1 catcher in Tenn and he flourished and jumped straight to Chicago at the end of the season.

11. Josh Vitters 3B-1B C+ (1st Round, 2007 Draft) AA Tennessee
Vitters really came on as a hitter in the second half and was much better at third, though he was still the team's worst defensive infielder. Had a terrible first half in the field and led the team in errors. He'll be back in Tenn., I think. He was the youngest kid on a young team and is barely shaving, frankly. He could use another full year in Double-A.

14. Chris Carpenter RHP C+ (3rd Round, 2008 Draft) MLB Chicago NL
He and Dolis had the hardest fast balls at Smokies Park last season. He was a deadly reliever and obviously moved on. I'll be surprised to see him back in the minors this season, really.

15. Rafael Dolis RHP C+ (International Free Agent) MLB Chicago NL
Dolis is another matter all together. He was always an adventure. He could be the Terminator three appearances in a row and then serve it up with a side salad and baked potato the next two times on the hill. He has all the tools and tons of power. His problem when he's off is in his head.

26. Dallas Beeler RHP
Leap frogged over Daytona and came to Tenn straight from Peoria. He looked like a Monster in his first start, but became just a guy after that. He'll probably start in Daytona this season and move up after the first month or so.

27. Jeff Beliveau LHP
Solid, but not spectacular. Back in DOuble-A this year, probably.

32. Jae-Hoon Ha OF
Fantastic outfielder with a decent bat. Top-level speed. He'll be Double-A again too, I think. He nearly killed me with a foul ball in the press box last season in his first stint with the Smokies. I still have the ball and posted a photo of it on Facebook right after it happened.

37. Kevin Rhoderick RHP
Solid and reliable reliever. You were always glad to see him (or Marco Carrillo) step in and hold a lead from the fifth on. He'll probably be back in Tenn too for a while.


41. Nick Struck RHP
If you blinked, you missed Nick last year. He flew up the league and just spent six games in Tenn. before heading to Iowa. He'll probably not be back. Looks like he's going to be MLB starter.

44. Robert Whitenack RHP
Solid starter, but was hurt most of the season. Will basically have to repeat the grade again this year because last season was just lost for him.

Guys not mentioned...

Luis Flores, C. He was one of my favorite stories from last year. He got called up from Daytona after Soto got hurt and all the catchers moved up. Flores was a back up in Daytona and was supposed to be a back up in Tenn too for a month or so, but knocked the hide off the ball and was fantastic behind the plate. He ended up getting suspended for something silly, a banned supplement from an energy drink of all things and will still miss the first month of the season. He'll be in Tenn. for sure and if the Cubs aren't going to keep Lalli (and I don't think that they will), he'll probably be the No. 1 catcher when he comes off suspension.

Rebel Ridling. 3rd/1st. Huge kid with a huge bat. Hit 20 home runs last season and really turned it on during the postseason. How could he not hit a ton with a name like that? Keep an eye out for him.

Marco Carrillo RHP. I mentioned him above, but he was really solid as a middle and long reliever. Grabbed some spot starts too due to injury and could always deliver. A real asset to the team and will probably be in Iowa this season.

Ty Wright. OF. Basically played on one foot the last two months of the season and could hit anything. The team used him as PH every game and he probably hit .600 like that.

Hated to lose Flaherty in the Rule 5. He and Lemahieu were two of the best hitters I saw all of last season. (Paul Goldschmidt was the best for the BayBears/Diamondbacks. He's your next big league HR guy. He hit 30 in 103 Double-A games last year).

That's it. If you want to know about anybody else, let me know.
 

Top