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In my case, being brown skinned, I was born in California, I am all for legal immigration, as long as the papers are evidence that it was legal, even though that alone is an oxymoron.
There really isn't such thing as "Legal" or "Illegal". Its still immigration, no matter which way you look at it.
I've been far to the right on this issue and I blame the rise of unemployment and constant wastes of money due to them thinking they're entitled to government subsidies. I also don't like their stupid intentions to breed more than 3 kids, within that also being their sense of entitlement as a result. That really is the problem here.
IHF, I have to be honest the whole "melting pot" statement is out of date IMO. We were a melting pot for a long, long time and we aren't anymore. Previously we were a country searching for its own unique identity because let's face it we are still a relatively young country. But we have found our identity now, we have our own unique culture now.
As they say, one bad apple ruins it for everyone else.[/quote]
The only problem would be, say one day, because you're, in your own words, "brown", you go out one day without any identification and some Cop who hasn't been laid since the bicentennial tries to deport you because "you looked like an illegal immigrant."
Like it or not, the people that are going to enforece this are human, and they will profile someone else because they are just as prejudiced as the rest of humanity.
As long as the 4th amendment holds true for all citizens, it's a great reinforcing idea, but the minute some overzealous government agent breaks it I can see an epic shitstorm. The law would have been better if it was "the owner of any business hiring on an illegal alien will spend time in pound-me-in-the-ass prison until they can drive a cement mixer up their pooper.[/quote]
I was adopted, so I don't know where the hell I came from. Some say I'm hispanic. Others think European or South American. Others Middle Eastern. Either way, I have no idea.
Fact of the matter is, I have my identification, my birth certificate, my social security, and whenever I can afford it, my passport. I'm an American citizen. Nuff said. This won't apply to me unless they politely ask me. I certainly won't mind showing the authorities as long as they themselves cooperate.
That said, I won't be going to Arizona for awhile anyway, but I'm one of the few who actually approves of that law. Oddly enough, my partner who is Puerto Rican, also approves of it and he's from Texas... I know Puerto Rico is a US territory, so it doesn't really apply, but he's still considered "hispanic" by cultural heritage, ironic as it sounds. He's basically in agreement with me on this matter.
We'd go to Arizona if there were a reason, but there isn't at the moment, so we don't intend on it anytime soon.[/quote]
KOTL the way the law is written an officer cannot stop you just to ask to prove you are in the country legally. There has to be another reason to stop you before they can ask that. Now I know they can make something up but there isn't much you can do against that problem.
