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[Payton!34]

I just don’t see any improvement from a draft stand point. I think F you have one or two injuries on the line or one injury and just one bad play and you’re back to square one.

Not a big fan of this draft. From what I’ve seen of the tackle who I don’t like bc of his height and lacking athleticism. The 6 ft de’s and edges will absolutely abuse him in .6 milliseconds and goodbye!

We have no running backs, what’s our identity. I hope for different but until proven otherwise, they’ll be shit like clay Matthews stated at the draft!

That shit was funny! If you don’t think so, then you take sports way too seriously

 

[Xplosive]

Sour grapes about backup players and hypothetical injuries is silly.

Four out of 5 OL starters are healthy and above average, the fifth is average when healthy and if he isn't healthy the other 4 are good enough to compensate even if whoever replaces him is below average.

A good defensive coach can get good results without elite personnel. Allen is a good DC. The only thing that matters this year is giving the offensive minded head coach as many weapons as possible to build the offense he envisions.

Patience Daniel-Son

 

[bufordht]

I agree, I just don't see what they could've done differently that would've really moved the needle. Take Hampton or Conerly at 10? Meh. If the passed on Burden they would've had the same questions at WR. An injury or 2 and the cupboard is bare.

Overall I'm not super excited about the draft but I think they did about as well as they could given the circumstances. We'll see.

 

[Nelly]

The speculation is that Jeanty was their #1 choice at #10, then Banks if he was available. It was smart not to trade up for Jeanty and Banks slipped through their fingers. Enter Colston Loveland.

It was also reported that they aggressively tried to trade up for Treveyon Henderson with their first 2nd rounder. The price was too rich and he was gone one pick before them, just like Banks. Enter Luther Burden.

At that point it was probably smart to trade down as they didn't appear to have anyone on their board they felt was worth it and then grabbed a pro-ready pass-protector in Trapilo and a versatile 3-tech that appears to be just Dennis Allen's style. Not bad consolation prizes there.

The day 3 picks were some head-scratchers, but at that point, you're trying to take guys you think can develop into plus players, not just guys to plug holes. We'll see if they materialize into anything.

 

[Nelly]

Just to add. What if it turned out that the board prevented the Bears from making mistakes? Some people like to shit all over the job Poles has done and they're not all wrong. If he's really not a good GM then maybe having his ideal picks taken away from him is a good thing? Wouldn't it truly signal a changing of the Bears' fortunes if their 2nd/3rd options in the draft turned out to be studs while their 1st/2nd options turned out to be just fine or even bust?

 

[Washington]

I too am not enamored by this draft. It was one of the weirdest I have ever seen as a Bears fan fanning many decades. I am still very boggled over day 3.

I believe the board did not go their way and that is why they ended up with TE2 and WR3. I believe if the board was 1 pick kinder in the 1st and 2nd, they would have taken Banks and Henderson. I would have loved Mike Green (I know about the allegations so spare me please) or Donovan Ezeiruaku with the 2nd 2nd rounder and to me, that would have been a win.

Now I will watch it play out and hope for the best which is what I do every year regardless.

 

[Aquineas]

The good news is, we get to find out in a little over four months! Queue up all your "See!!!? I told you so!!!! You guys didn't listen to me!!!" messages, because one way or another, reckoning is coming!!

(Junior Barnes!)

 

[DC]

BJ doesn’t give a F. I was confused and a little frustrated the day of, but not anymore. Sports is supposed to be a fun distraction. If BJ flubs this year hard and we have a similar head-scratching draft, I’ll undoubtedly spend a couple extra minutes stressing about it. But a week later? Hell naw.

 

[Noonthirtyjoe]

Draft we won't know about for 3 years.

 

[Aquineas]

BJ doesn’t give a F. I was confused and a little frustrated the day of, but not anymore. Sports is supposed to be a fun distraction. If BJ flubs this year hard and we have a similar head-scratching draft, I’ll undoubtedly spend a couple extra minutes stressing about it. But a week later? Hell naw.

This. But honestly if the Bears are looking too awful, I may or may not go find something else to do. There were a few games last year I didn't bother with. It's too painful to watch. You know what's going to suck this year? If Eberflus comes to town with the Cowboys and beats the Bears; his defenses generally played above their talent-level against BG offenses.

 

[Kurtosis]

I too am not enamored by this draft. It was one of the weirdest I have ever seen as a Bears fan fanning many decades. I am still very boggled over day 3.

I believe the board did not go their way and that is why they ended up with TE2 and WR3. I believe if the board was 1 pick kinder in the 1st and 2nd, they would have taken Banks and Henderson. I would have loved Mike Green (I know about the allegations so spare me please) or Donovan Ezeiruaku with the 2nd 2nd rounder and to me, that would have been a win.

Now I will watch it play out and hope for the best which is what I do every year regardless.

I’m thinking Loveland is probably TE1 in no longer than a year.

 

[DefNextYear]

Just to add. What if it turned out that the board prevented the Bears from making mistakes? Some people like to shit all over the job Poles has done and they're not all wrong. If he's really not a good GM then maybe having his ideal picks taken away from him is a good thing? Wouldn't it truly signal a changing of the Bears' fortunes if their 2nd/3rd options in the draft turned out to be studs while their 1st/2nd options turned out to be just fine or even bust?

Sometimes, people overlook some of these things. Even good GMs make mistakes, so I wouldn't frame this as a way to protect him from himself. Drafting is hard, and projecting people's ability from one level to the next with different circumstances is very difficult.

For example, everyone's golden boy Howie took Jalen Reagor over JJ in the first round. It was a totally bizarre move. And generally, some players are relatively consensus and it's hard to pick against. Like last year... any team picking first was going to take Caleb over Daniels. The book isn't closed obviously, but most people today are probably saying it was the wrong pick. Just the year prior, probably a lot of teams were taking Bryce Young over Stroud. In 2020, Daniel Jeremiah had Becton and Wills over Wirfs. Brugler had Wills as a top 5 prospect and over Wirfs. Wirfs is now a top 3 LT, and Wills is a free agent. Both guys had Tua considerably higher than Herbert in that draft. Today, the Dolphins rather have Herbert. In the next draft, both Brugler and Jeremiah had Jaylen Waddle as a top 6 prospect. He was taken over guys like Sewell, Slater, Micah, and Surtain. My guess is they'd take any one of those over Waddle today. There's only so much someone can do, and it still becomes a roll of the dice at the end of the day.

There's an element of "luck" here in where you pick. The world may be high on some obvious choice that ends up being a bust. And back to Mills... as good as Licht is, I bet he would've taken Mills over Wirfs in that draft if Mills was on the board. So, it's kind of a waste to overthink missing out on players. There's no sure thing. Rank players the best you can and hope you were right about the ones that fell to you.

 

[msadows]

just wanted to point out most teams will be fucked on the OL if they have multiple injuries.

The bears at least this year have 4 legit starters and some depth.

 

[MikeDitkaPolishSausage]

Say if the draft went in another direction for the Bears. Then guess what, you are one injury away at TE and WR for those position groups to be absolute jokes. I’d much rather have Kmet/Loveland & Moore/Odunze/Burden then new LT, New RB, Kmet, Moore/Odunze.

 

[--CyBear--]

I don't really get the OP. So if we draft a couple backups with our 1st 2 picks, now there's an issue if we have injuries at TE, OL, DL or WR? Which positions did you want to draft backups for? Between this last FA, trade and the 1st 2 days of the last 2 drafts, we've acquired 5 OL. The biggest problem area has been addressed in a major way.

 

[msadows]

Say if the draft went in another direction for the Bears. Then guess what, you are one injury away at TE and WR for those position groups to be absolute jokes. I’d much rather have Kmet/Loveland & Moore/Odunze/Burden then new LT, New RB, Kmet, Moore/Odunze.

nah we would be fine with tyler scott and some guy named smythe as your starting TE/WR combo.

/s

 

[--CyBear--]

Say if the draft went in another direction for the Bears. Then guess what, you are one injury away at TE and WR for those position groups to be absolute jokes. I’d much rather have Kmet/Loveland & Moore/Odunze/Burden then new LT, New RB, Kmet, Moore/Odunze.

Between the last 2 drafts we may have a new LT anyway.

 

[msadows]

I don't really get the OP. So if we draft a couple backups with out 1st 2 picks, how we having an issue if we have injuries at TE, OL, DL or WR? Which positions did you want to draft backups for? Between this last FA, trade and the 1st 2 days of the last 2 drafts, we've acquired 5 OL. The biggest problem area has been addressed in a major way.

I'd feel more comfortable if they found another backup guard in FA, but the depth is actually "okay" now especially if bates can actually be healthy.

They at least have 2 bodies at tackle who can potentially be okay in ozzy and kiran.

 

[MikeDitkaPolishSausage]

nah we would be fine with tyler scott and some guy named smythe as your starting TE/WR combo.

/s

I think Smyth would fit that LaPorta role just fine!

 

[MikeDitkaPolishSausage]

Between the last 2 drafts we may have a new LT anyway.

That is TBD, but very true. And like it was mentioned before in this thread, you have 4 other very capable OL that will only help the LT no matter who it is. Even a TE and/or RB will be helping out.