Mutual interest with Castellanos?

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That would be outfielder Nicholas Castellanos. Not only did Castellanos instantly become a fan favorite, but he energized the team and sparked the offense with incredible production in the second half. He's a unique free agent, given that he is entering his age-28 season. Agent Scott Boras will be aiming to capitalize on Castellanos' breakout season, but there is mutual interest and a definite fit. Castellanos will also be watching how the Cubs approach this offseason and factoring that into his decision. After experiencing a playoff chase with Chicago, Castellanos very much wants to keep that taste in his mouth.
 

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If they can move Heyward I think they try. A definite no from KB might do it too, but I do not want to see Heyward playing center anymore.
 

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If they can move Heyward I think they try. A definite no from KB might do it too, but I do not want to see Heyward playing center anymore.
They arent moving Heyward. They would be trading Schwarber
 

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They arent moving Heyward. They would be trading Schwarber

I would agree, and it's unfortunate because I think Schwarber is on the verge of being great. The Cubs would be lucky if they found a taker for Heyward and only had to pay 20 M of his remaining salary. It'd probably be closer to 40 M.
 

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I'm torn on this subject.

But if they sign external sign Yasmani Grandal and trade Contreras for a CF/pitching prospect.
 

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Cubs went from one of the best in D to one of the worst. I really believe the right direction is to make is difficult for teams to score runs in general against them.
 

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They arent moving Heyward. They would be trading Schwarber

More inside information. I guess that was all fake news about almost having a deal in place with the Giants last year because they would have had to take too much salary back.
 

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I just don't see it happening. Castellanos is the most attractive FA bat next to Rondon, and someone will overpay for his second half.
 

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Nick was a great addition, but in all reality, the lift they got from him was the same energy they got from Javy all year.

I thought he did ok in the outfield, but apparently he sucked, so he needs to go to the AL so he can DH more. But if his defense sucks, then I hope the calls for JD Martinez stop.
 

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I just don't see it happening. Castellanos is the most attractive FA bat next to Rondon, and someone will overpay for his second half.
I don’t think so. I’m not saying he is going to be a Cub. Teams are tight with the money. He is 28 so he has that going for him. The Cubs are looking at 22 or so million in arbitration with Contreras, schwarber, Baez, and Bryant getting nuggets raises. No way they keep Russell. He would be close to 5 million
 

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I don’t think so. I’m not saying he is going to be a Cub. Teams are tight with the money. He is 28 so he has that going for him. The Cubs are looking at 22 or so million in arbitration with Contreras, schwarber, Baez, and Bryant getting nuggets raises. No way they keep Russell. He would be close to 5 million

I also feel it is unlikely that Theo offers him a deal.

If they are smart then they will focus on D and getting a CF upgrade. Marsh from LAA to me makes sense but the vibe is he will be on the market but for SP. I only see this if they do a trade involving Q's last year of control.

So I just don't see the connection myself. DH/1B would be a better scenerio for him.
 

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I just don't see it happening. Castellanos is the most attractive FA bat next to Rondon, and someone will overpay for his second half.
Nick was a great addition, but in all reality, the lift they got from him was the same energy they got from Javy all year.

I thought he did ok in the outfield, but apparently he sucked, so he needs to go to the AL so he can DH more. But if his defense sucks, then I hope the calls for JD Martinez stop.
I also feel it is unlikely that Theo offers him a deal.

If they are smart then they will focus on D and getting a CF upgrade. Marsh from LAA to me makes sense but the vibe is he will be on the market but for SP. I only see this if they do a trade involving Q's last year of control.

So I just don't see the connection myself. DH/1B would be a better scenerio for him.
I think there’s a chance he stays in Chicago with Sox, but I don’t see him ending up here in Cubbie land again.
 

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Ok, maybe I am missing something but I tend to watch most Cubs games (have the benefit of working from home so I always have the game on in my office). With that being said, I continue to hear that Nick is a terrible outfielder but I am trying to recall a game where his defense was so brutal it cost us a run and for the life of me I just don't recall that. As for the infield, hell yes, I recall several games where Russell or the 2nd baseman of choice cost us a run or extra base. So

I have always been more concerned with infield defense instead of the outfield. IMO, if we can fix the defense on the infield, I would be fine with Nick and Schwarbs in the outfield.
 

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Ok, maybe I am missing something but I tend to watch most Cubs games (have the benefit of working from home so I always have the game on in my office). With that being said, I continue to hear that Nick is a terrible outfielder but I am trying to recall a game where his defense was so brutal it cost us a run and for the life of me I just don't recall that. As for the infield, hell yes, I recall several games where Russell or the 2nd baseman of choice cost us a run or extra base. So

I have always been more concerned with infield defense instead of the outfield. IMO, if we can fix the defense on the infield, I would be fine with Nick and Schwarbs in the outfield.

It's almost impossible to judge defense from the TV feed. You have no idea where the OF is positioned and how much ground they're actually covering before a play. Mostly we just see if they screw up the catch or make a nice dive.
 

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If Nick is truly only going to get 4/56, its something that will happen in February well after the top guys are gone.
Someone wants to throw 100 at him, it will happen earlier.
 

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It's almost impossible to judge defense from the TV feed. You have no idea where the OF is positioned and how much ground they're actually covering before a play. Mostly we just see if they screw up the catch or make a nice dive.

And that's fair but if we are now talking about defensive positioning, isn't that on the Manager with his defensive alignment. We see it all the time now, players taking that defensive line up card out of their back pocket and adjust based on the hitter/pitcher combo.

So my assumption is that people don't feel he makes enough "plays" in the Outfield. His error count is minimal (only 6 in 300 games in the OF) and his Fielding % is solid (.990) for the OF (not counting his 3rd base stats where yea, he was god awful defensively there).

Personally, I think Defensive Runs Saved is a flawed Metric as outfield positioning has everything to do with it and that positioning usually comes from the Manager so really its more of a metric based on athletic ability. Billy Hamilton is a Stud defensively based on that Metric but sucks balls at the plate. Were the Reds winning because of Billy's Defense....Nope.

My point is, its the infield defense that inherently matters more in baseball than the outfield defense. Nick in either left or right is just fine, its 2nd Base and back up SS we need to shore up as those issues cost us many more games than any of the issues in our Outfield from a defensive standpoint.
 

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And that's fair but if we are now talking about defensive positioning, isn't that on the Manager with his defensive alignment. We see it all the time now, players taking that defensive line up card out of their back pocket and adjust based on the hitter/pitcher combo.

So my assumption is that people don't feel he makes enough "plays" in the Outfield. His error count is minimal (only 6 in 300 games in the OF) and his Fielding % is solid (.990) for the OF (not counting his 3rd base stats where yea, he was god awful defensively there).

Personally, I think Defensive Runs Saved is a flawed Metric as outfield positioning has everything to do with it and that positioning usually comes from the Manager so really its more of a metric based on athletic ability. Billy Hamilton is a Stud defensively based on that Metric but sucks balls at the plate. Were the Reds winning because of Billy's Defense....Nope.

My point is, its the infield defense that inherently matters more in baseball than the outfield defense. Nick in either left or right is just fine, its 2nd Base and back up SS we need to shore up as those issues cost us many more games than any of the issues in our Outfield from a defensive standpoint.


You are wrong here but here it goes.

DEF is not flawed.

Wriggly RF has the most problems due to the sun. The changing wind conditions.
The well
The brick wall.
No foul territory on the wall.

So investing 4 years into a suspect defender is stupid.

Sammy played Trainwreck RF on crap teams because it put fans in the seats. That was the WGN motto.

The Ricketts will fund a winning product. Not a fan boi fest.
 

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To add

The smart choice here is to stick with Happ and Almora or to trade or DFA and go after a CF upgrade.

And to be honest here. If Happ puts up a 126 wRC+ and a 1 DRS is is acceptable as a solution.

A -9 DRS in RF is not acceptable in anyone's book. Maybe yours but that is why you are wrong.
 

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