Mutual interest with Castellanos?

[anotheridiot]

You are wrong here but here it goes.

DEF is not flawed.

Wriggly RF has the most problems due to the sun. The changing wind conditions.
The well
The brick wall.
No foul territory on the wall.

So investing 4 years into a suspect defender is stupid.

Sammy played Trainwreck RF on crap teams because it put fans in the seats. That was the WGN motto.

The Ricketts will fund a winning product. Not a fan boi fest.

Need to score runs to win. what 30 games if they would have scored one or 2 more runs they would have run away with the division.

Remember, nobody ever complained about Soler being a hack in right field until Heyward got here, then they came out of the wood work to say how terrible he was.
Eloy was always a hack and is where he belongs in the AL where he can also DH.

Pretty much why Nick will most likely be signed by an AL team.

 

[CSF77]

Need to score runs to win. what 30 games if they would have scored one or 2 more runs they would have run away with the division.

Remember, nobody ever complained about Soler being a hack in right field until Heyward got here, then they came out of the wood work to say how terrible he was.
Eloy was always a hack and is where he belongs in the AL where he can also DH.

Pretty much why Nick will most likely be signed by an AL team.

Happ put up a 126 wRC+ and a 1 DRS in CF.

Nick put up a combined 121 wRC+ and a -9 DRS in RF.

Numbers don't lie

We are getting wrapped up on him because his 2B became HR's in a smaller park. But it is what it is.

Even in WAR.

Nick 2.8 in 664 PA
Ian 1.5 in 156.

Again numbers don't lie and Ian might be on the verge of a break out post sophomore slump.

 

[CSF77]

IMO the best thing that could happen to these guys is removing Joe and his random line ups and bull shit lead off ideas.

 

[DB012031]

To add

The smart choice here is to stick with Happ and Almora or to trade or DFA and go after a CF upgrade.

And to be honest here. If Happ puts up a 126 wRC+ and a 1 DRS is is acceptable as a solution.

A -9 DRS in RF is not acceptable in anyone's book. Maybe yours but that is why you are wrong.

Sosa more than made up for any defensive deficiencies with his offense. Hell of a lot more to baseball than just DRS and lets face it, Sosa's defense wasn't why the Cubs weren't any good.

Nick offense is lightyears ahead of Happ and Almora combined. His offense is more valuable to how the Cubs are currently constructed than his defense, more so than either Happ or Almora. Not to mention, since you bring up the Ball Parks, you also aren't adjusting for the fact he played in Detroit, one of the largest outfields in all of baseball. Once coming to Wrigley, a substantially smaller outfield, his defense was no where near as poor.

We have already seen enough of what a line-up with Happ and Almora looks like, and it's no where near as good as when Nick is in there.

 

[fatbeard]

IMO the best thing that could happen to these guys is removing Joe and his random line ups and bull shit lead off ideas.

Over 162 games, the difference between a fully optimized lineup and Maddon's carnival ride blender is about 10 runs.

So if that's the best thing to happen to the Cubs this offseason, you're gonna be mighty disappointed in 2020.

 

[anotheridiot]

Happ put up a 126 wRC+ and a 1 DRS in CF.

Nick put up a combined 121 wRC+ and a -9 DRS in RF.

Numbers don't lie

We are getting wrapped up on him because his 2B became HR's in a smaller park. But it is what it is.

Even in WAR.

Nick 2.8 in 664 PA
Ian 1.5 in 156.

Again numbers don't lie and Ian might be on the verge of a break out post sophomore slump.

Yeah, and there are enough numbers out there to back up any argument you might want to make.

His doubles were doubles, led the league in doubles, nobody is bringing up his home runs, he is mark grace like in double every other day

 

[CSF77]

Yeah, and there are enough numbers out there to back up any argument you might want to make.

His doubles were doubles, led the league in doubles, nobody is bringing up his home runs, he is mark grace like in double every other day

2 things drug his value down.

4.4 BB rate.
-2.8 DEF.

Javy had a 5 BB rate but also had a 15.7 DEF.

There is a core diffrect in both and it reflects in WAR.

2.0.

4.4

Nick is a decent player but he has some major holes in his game that only will get worse as he ages.

Grace is a poor comp. He had GG D.

 

[Castor76]

As much as I would love and will fantasize about a trade for Sale and other moves, I'm settle with the idea that there won't be much change to the Cubs this offseason lest they trade Bryant away. Even than, I see them doing more subtraction than addition.

 

[CSF77]

As much as I would love and will fantasize about a trade for Sale and other moves, I'm settle with the idea that there won't be much change to the Cubs this offseason lest they trade Bryant away. Even than, I see them doing more subtraction than addition.

I think trading Contreras for a prospect SP with upside would be a smart move myself.

The main issue I'm seeing is a lack of a legit lead off.

But I would run with Nico up there with his ability to put the ball into play. I don't think that he is ideal but it is far better than losing production from other struggles or Rizzo not in a RBI spot
Nico
Bryant
Rizzo
Baez
Schwarber
Happ
Caratini
Heyward

 

[Steve_A]

As much as I would love and will fantasize about a trade for Sale and other moves, I'm settle with the idea that there won't be much change to the Cubs this offseason lest they trade Bryant away. Even than, I see them doing more subtraction than addition.

I generally agree but one glimmer of hope would be the new TV deal and them needing to keep fans involved.

 

[Jack Lantern]

Castellanos hired Scott Boras as his agent so. Regardless of all the feel good PR speak of wanting to sign back with the Cubs, Boras will ensure his client goes to the highest bidder.

 

[fatbeard]

Castellanos hired Scott Boras as his agent so. Regardless of all the feel good PR speak of wanting to sign back with the Cubs, Boras will ensure his client goes to the highest bidder.

Agents work for clients, not the other way around. Boras will do exactly what Castellanos tells him.

 

[Jack Lantern]

Agents work for clients, not the other way around. Boras will do exactly what Castellanos tells him.

Boras has a reputation of getting his clients paid which was why Nick hired him.

 

[CSF77]

Not going to happen with the Cubs.

From August 1 on, Schwarber hit a ridiculous .304/.394/.649, with an 11.6% BB rate, a 24.7% K rate, a 163 wRC+, and a whopping 48.8% hard contact rate

They dont need 2 LF

 

[Discus fish salesman]

Happ put up a 126 wRC+ and a 1 DRS in CF.

Nick put up a combined 121 wRC+ and a -9 DRS in RF.

Numbers don't lie

We are getting wrapped up on him because his 2B became HR's in a smaller park. But it is what it is.

Even in WAR.

Nick 2.8 in 664 PA
Ian 1.5 in 156.

Again numbers don't lie and Ian might be on the verge of a break out post sophomore slump.

How do you adjust the numbers to show Castellanos played everyday as opposed to Happ played when Maddon found a good matchup for him?

 

[fatbeard]

How do you adjust the numbers to show Castellanos played everyday as opposed to Happ played when Maddon found a good matchup for him?

This is a legit counterpoint, but I don't see any way the Cubs retain Castellanos.

 

[Discus fish salesman]

This is a legit counterpoint, but I don't see any way the Cubs retain Castellanos.

I agree. I just think trying to justify that Happ is superior to Castellanos is laughable.