NASA and Space Exloration

[winos5]

I'm confused? How is that a counter? Looks like more support for the everyday technology that has come from NASA?

Your not the only one.....

 

[BigPete]

Glad you agree with me.

Kinda sorta. As long as we are saying that they didn't INVENT anything. Although they did write many many many software programs (so I'll concede there on the inventing part)

 

[ginnie]

I'm confused? How is that a counter? Looks like more support for the everyday technology that has come from NASA?

... confused me too! Looks like an affirmation not a counter...

 

[ginnie]

Kinda sorta. As long as we are saying that they didn't INVENT anything. Although they did write many many many software programs (so I'll concede there on the inventing part)

They didn't invent anything?



http://curiosity.discovery.com/topic/transportation-science/ten-nasa-inventions.htm



Actually, there are literally hundreds of inventions by NASA. Of course NASA didn't build anything. They had thousands of companies under contract to do that. But that doesn't matter - if NASA had not existed, those inventions and technologies might never come into existence.

 

[BiscuitintheBasket]

I guess you would have to ask an aeronautical engineer if they could do their job without a calculator or computer. I would bet they could. I would also bet that humans were using math to work out complex equations about trajectory and gravity's effects long before the first space capsule or space shuttle launched. Ask the Chinese (fireworks), the greeks and romans (early catapults), ask artillery men from any era.



Admittedly it made it okay for people to believe that something existed outside of our atmosphere...you know, that there is no physical heaven just passed the clouds, etc.

Basic and slightly advanced math that has existed for a very long time are very much in use with the computer you type on, the screen inwhich you see the text you type, and the interwebs that move your text to this message board.



It is more about the application of such and advancing the uses.

 

[BiscuitintheBasket]

BTW, if any of you every find your self near Cape Canaveral it is worth spending some time at the Kennedy Space Center and take the tour(s).





The Mock-Up Shuttle Explorer:

Btw, them shuttles are pretty huge. Not sure the pavilion and the shuttle could exist on Northernly Island:

The Apollo Exhibit in the original lanuch control is pretty cool. It also includes an unused Saturn. It is freaking huge, and yes I am a dork:

 

[BiscuitintheBasket]

Apollo 13 command module. Man I just could not imagine that ordeal:

Mercury module. I am obviously too big to be an As-tro-naught.

 

[IceHogsFan]

NASA and Space Exloration



Still waiting for someone to explain to me premise of this thread after reading the title.

 

[ginnie]

The height restriction for an astronaut was 5'11" on the Mercury missions.



Speaking of the math - if you look at any of the footage of Mission Command in the sixties, sometimes you can see NASA personel working out math with pencil and paper during the missions.

 

[supraman]

NASA and Space Exloration



Still waiting for someone to explain to me premise of this thread after reading the title.

Keep waiting, seems everyone else got it.

 

[bubbleheadchief]

BTW, if any of you every find your self near Cape Canaveral it is worth spending some time at the Kennedy Space Center and take the tour(s).





The Mock-Up Shuttle Explorer:

Btw, them shuttles are pretty huge. Not sure the pavilion and the shuttle could exist on Northernly Island:

The Apollo Exhibit in the original lanuch control is pretty cool. It also includes an unused Saturn. It is freaking huge, and yes I am a dork:

I have to agree and second this whole heartedly. Was stationed on CCAFS for three years. Loved it. Here is a real shitty thing about it though, there are certain areas that is not part of any of the tours they give you. Certain launch pads and the like, like the Apollo 1 pad and the memorial that the families of Grissom/White and Chaffee paid for out of their own pocket, that are falling into complete disrepair.

 

[roshinaya]

Politicians should only be in charge of allocating a budget and that is where interference should end. If every nation in the UN set aside a space budget to a single international space program, we could pay less into that than we do to NASA, and have a single world space organization that has a budget that dwarfs any individual countries space program.



It should be run by an international committee of Scientists and Engineers NOT politicians. If you do that it wouldn't be nearly as inept as the UN.



Although, I know it would be horrible to marvel at the feats of a space program that show the advancement of the humanity as whole, instead of being able to chant USA USA.

Agree completely. Space exploration should be an international venture without any political leanings or ties and the eventual technologies should be shared equally among the world. Like it or not, there will be a time when space colonisation is the only way to keep humanity going and I rather see work start on it sooner rather than later.



And space is awesome as ****.

 

[R K]

Keep waiting, seems everyone else got it.

OK I laughed at that! I did....

 

[R K]

Agree completely. Space exploration should be an international venture without any political leanings or ties and the eventual technologies should be shared equally among the world. Like it or not, there will be a time when space colonisation is the only way to keep humanity going and I rather see work start on it sooner rather than later.



And space is awesome as ****.

Good post Rosh!



And Biscuit you are a dork but that place is cool as shit. It's been many years since we've been there but I still remember the feeling I got the few times we were. Nothing like exploration, especially into outerspace!

 

[BigPete]

They didn't invent anything?



http://curiosity.discovery.com/topic/transportation-science/ten-nasa-inventions.htm



Actually, there are literally hundreds of inventions by NASA. Of course NASA didn't build anything. They had thousands of companies under contract to do that. But that doesn't matter - if NASA had not existed, those inventions and technologies might never come into existence.

It's semantics but it does make a big difference. The opinion I heard, that I tend to agree with is that those 'inventions' were not the brainchild of or resulted from the space program. They were not even under contract to be built for the space program. They were put under contract and added to the program to be USED BY the space program.

Would some of these things reached popularity and mass production/proliferation? Maybe not, without funding support from NASA. But that does not mean that NASA invented them or that they would not exist without the space program.



Semantics, I know...

 

[BigPete]

Good post Rosh!



And Biscuit you are a dork but that place is cool as shit. It's been many years since we've been there but I still remember the feeling I got the few times we were. Nothing like exploration, especially into outerspace!

The Smithsonian Air and Space Museum on the mall in Washington DC, the Smithsonian Udvar Hazy Air and Space Museum in Dulles VA, and the Air and Space Museum in San Diego all have some really cool space related shit too. The Udvar Hazy has a space shuttle and several rockets and satellites including a replica of the Sputnik space probe (first satellite).

 

[R K]

Yea I've been to DC many times. All the Museums are cool in DC are pretty cool. I was in Sandiego years ago as well.



Still upset that adlar isn't getting the Shuttle. Would have been cool.

 

[BigPete]

Yea I've been to DC many times. All the Museums are cool in DC are pretty cool. I was in Sandiego years ago as well.



Still upset that adlar isn't getting the Shuttle. Would have been cool.

Maybe the Adler will someday get the Hubble when they shut it down...IF they bring it down safetly. But since the shuttle program is down for now it will most likely be splashed down and sent to Davy Jones locker...although, we like to try and recover our imagery satellites so other countries don't get their hands on them. The Hubble is fairly similar to some of the older model imagery satellites (just pointed in the other direction

)

 

[supraman]

Politicians should only be in charge of allocating a budget and that is where interference should end. If every nation in the UN set aside a space budget to a single international space program, we could pay less into that than we do to NASA, and have a single world space organization that has a budget that dwarfs any individual countries space program.



It should be run by an international committee of Scientists and Engineers NOT politicians. If you do that it wouldn't be nearly as inept as the UN.



Although, I know it would be horrible to marvel at the feats of a space program that show the advancement of the humanity as whole, instead of being able to chant USA USA.

I like chanting USA though.



I understand that eventually humanity as a whole will have to unite and colonize other worlds but currently there is something to be said for national pride. I can only imagine the pride America had in 69 when we (americans) put a man on another celestial body. So I don't necessarily disagree with you but I am not agreeing entirely either on an International Space Program. Also we have that the ISS and it sucks. Build me a god damn Death Star!

 

[BigPete]

I like chanting USA though.



I understand that eventually humanity as a whole will have to unite and colonize other worlds but currently there is something to be said for national pride. I can only imagine the pride America had in 69 when we (americans) put a man on another celestial body. So I don't necessarily disagree with you but I am not agreeing entirely either on an International Space Program. Also we have that the ISS and it sucks. Build me a god damn Death Star!

How about this? I'll get the Milenium Falcon fueled up and we can head over to Mars for dinner. Sound good? Pick you and Chewie up at 6pm?