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That doesn't make any sense; a "close to touchdown" play is not a scoring play and therefore has nothing to do with the automatic review of scoring plays. I guess Trest's point was that since one ref said it was a td, they should have let that call stand and then review it. But apparently after discussing it they decided to rule him down outside the goal line, hence no score so no review. Granted, it was the wrong call IMO, and I think he was in. I even think Bennett may have gotten both feet down on the catch as well. We essentially had to score four times for it to count. lol

EDIT: I notice people have mentioned Marty B. dropping the ball, I did not notice that if it happened.

Right, and I think that should be a rule as well: if one ref calls a play a TD it should automatically go to review... No on the field debate needed
 

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Right, and I think that should be a rule as well: if one ref calls a play a TD it should automatically go to review... No on the field debate needed

No reason to do that. If the play is in the endzone then it is reviewed by the booth then the refs if needed. No matter what the refs signal on the field.
 

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No reason to do that. If the play is in the endzone then it is reviewed by the booth then the refs if needed. No matter what the refs signal on the field.

That's not what occurred yesterday. One ref was signaling TD, the other overruled him, and the play wasn't reviewed by the booth or the refs.
 

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No reason to do that. If the play is in the endzone then it is reviewed by the booth then the refs if needed. No matter what the refs signal on the field.

That's incorrect. The booth doesn't review it unless it's called a td on the field. If what you are saying was the case, Trestman wouldn't have needed to challenge the Bennett TD.
 

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That's not what occurred yesterday. One ref was signaling TD, the other overruled him, and the play wasn't reviewed by the booth or the refs.

I know what happened and why it was not reviewed and what Testman was getting at, was just saying what I think the rule should be instead of how it is now.
 

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That's incorrect. The booth doesn't review it unless it's called a td on the field. If what you are saying was the case, Trestman wouldn't have needed to challenge the Bennett TD.

I was talking about changing the rule not about what happened last night. If it is an automatic review if in the endzone then it would not matter what the refs signal. Unlike now were it does matter.
 

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No problem I could see were you guys got confused. I was responding to JaySix's idea about how to change it. instead of making it a review if one ref signals a TD and the other doesn't just make all endzone plays a automatic review.
 

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Speaking solely as a guy who wears the stripes on the weekends, and not a Bears fan in this instance, I think that goal line series was handled correctly by the refs. My guess is they said no touchdown on first down, because it was first down. It's kind of a cop out, but I don't think you can reasonably say the ball was across the goal line before the knee hit. There was just no evidence of it on the replay. If it were any other team than the Bears, my guess is that everybody would agree.

As for the pass on second down, meh - I'd like to see a replay of that again. Third down run, same as first down. In the end, they got the ball in the end zone which is all that matters and in the end the clock was running on first, second, and fourth down. I'll take that any day of the week.

I thought the ball broke the plane on 3rd. It was very close. But after they decided it didn't break the plane, they spotted it a full foot from the goal line. That was wrong.
 

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The whole replay system is flawed.

Just think about it: A ref on the field makes a call, "seeing" it once, at full speed, often obscured from viewing all the necessary elements.

Then a ref in the booth can watch it in slow-mo, from every angle, over and over.

But rather than allow the ref in the booth to make the call, they must defer to the call on the field, and must have "indisputable evidence" to overturn.

Stupid. The guy seeing it over and over from every angle with slow-mo and stop action should simply make the call.
 

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No reason to do that. If the play is in the endzone then it is reviewed by the booth then the refs if needed. No matter what the refs signal on the field.
So tell me how that worked out on the 1st and goal yesterday when one ref called it a TD?

Your reasoning has a major flaw you can see that right?
 

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I thought the ball broke the plane on 3rd. It was very close. But after they decided it didn't break the plane, they spotted it a full foot from the goal line. That was wrong.

Oh yeah, I forgot. Every one of these they spotted the ball like shit.
 

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I for one am impressed that it took this long for a thread about this bulshit to be created. It was a travesty, but melton and accountability dominated today'ss posts. Bitching about refs is for losers, like whoever paid them to **** us on that series.
 

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I for one am impressed that it took this long for a thread about this bulshit to be created. It was a travesty, but melton and accountability dominated today'ss posts. Bitching about refs is for losers, like whoever paid them to **** us on that series.
Ok blaming losses on refs is usually pathetic, but pointing out faults in the system after a win does no harm right...

It didn't cost us this time but it would sure suck if we would lose a game on bullshit like that.... Refs should realise their position within the new rules and if any doubt the call should be TD so that the right call can be made with the help of video replay....
 
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first down, score. Second down, one foot, did not control the ball through the catch to the ground, it came out. third down...was reviewed, and was short. it was, but we were frustrated by first down and wanted it. fourth down, finished it, no harm, no foul. relax
 

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I missed second and third down but I thought it was rather clear that Bush got in on first down. I was incredibly surprised that Trestman didn't challenge it. I get that it was on first down and there is no reason to think we couldn't get it in from the one on three more downs but stupider shit has happened. I still believe he would have won that challenge.
 

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