NHL Draft thread

[Granada]

I'm tired of the little ***** Strome. Too many little bitches on the team...Kurashev is a cheap replacement.

If he didn't get ***** slapped off the dot maybe he could help us. Sign Kubalik, promote Kurashev, and thats it. You get Shaw and Smith back to help some, Dach gets better, and you have 3 months to prove you are worthy of mortgaging any future for playoffs...otherwise its buy more bad contracts for more picks or young players.

Strome is welcome back cheap, but he is no more than a third line center going forward, and blocking Kurashev.

I would not re-sign Strome at this point. He experienced a bump in play right after the trade, but hasn't done much since. He's expendable in my book because he is what he is, and he currently looks like the same player Arizona traded away.

If he wants anything around 3 million, I'd let him walk. Dach needs to see the majority of next season on the second line, and Strome is not a 3LC. There's simply no spot for him here anymore.

 

[hawkinmontreal]

I would not re-sign Strome at this point. He experienced a bump in play right after the trade, but hasn't done much since. He's expendable in my book because he is what he is, and he currently looks like the same player Arizona traded away.

If he wants anything around 3 million, I'd let him walk. Dach needs to see the majority of next season on the second line, and Strome is not a 3LC. There's simply no spot for him here anymore.

Why waste the money, start using your prospects and see what they can contribute to this team. The Hawks are going nowhere fast for the foreseeable future, it’s time to see what is worth keeping from the prospect pool going forward.
With the current world situation and teams trying to dump salary, Hawks need to step away from Strome and any sort of contract. The team needs to get better and unfortunately Strome is not the player to help them do so.

 

[Diehardfan]

Why waste the money, start using your prospects and see what they can contribute to this team. The Hawks are going nowhere fast for the foreseeable future, it’s time to see what is worth keeping from the prospect pool going forward.
With the current world situation and teams trying to dump salary, Hawks need to step away from Strome and any sort of contract. The team needs to get better and unfortunately Strome is not the player to help them do so.

Agreed. Which makes the trade for Pirri so damn perplexing.....he can't be dense enough to believe Pirri derserves a spot....whether he's a winger, center or a member of the Ice Crew.

 

[Raskolnikov]

1. Braden Schneider
2. Marco Rossi
3. Yaroslav Askarov .... if 4,5, are there its actually a hard decision for me.
4. Kayden Guhle
5. Rodion Amirov (not sure he shouldn't be a top 5 prospect, boom or bust, stick wizard)
6. Khusnutdinov
7. Dylan Halloway (left wing)
8. Jack Quinn
9. Ponomaryov (lefty, 2way center)
10. Ryan O'Rourke
11. Helge Grans
12. John-Jason Peterka (penalty killer for ya)


Its one of those deals where we need anything and everything. So BPA, whatever that is to Stan, with the exception of G Askarov, who as Martini says, if he falls to you laugh and don't think. He was also right, the Russians are too skilled to overlook, and actually play 2-ways so could help us, and they are further along professionally than some of the others.

I don't want to trade this pick, I want to know how we trade back into the first to get a second one.

 

[KBIB]

1. Braden Schneider
2. Marco Rossi
3. Yaroslav Askarov .... if 4,5, are there its actually a hard decision for me.
4. Kayden Guhle
5. Rodion Amirov (not sure he shouldn't be a top 5 prospect, boom or bust, stick wizard)
6. Khusnutdinov
7. Dylan Halloway (left wing)
8. Jack Quinn
9. Ponomaryov (lefty, 2way center)
10. Ryan O'Rourke
11. Helge Grans
12. John-Jason Peterka (penalty killer for ya)


Its one of those deals where we need anything and everything. So BPA, whatever that is to Stan, with the exception of G Askarov, who as Martini says, if he falls to you laugh and don't think. He was also right, the Russians are too skilled to overlook, and actually play 2-ways so could help us, and they are further along professionally than some of the others.

I don't want to trade this pick, I want to know how we trade back into the first to get a second one.

Rossi or Quinn won't fall to 17.

I don't think Askarov gets past the Devil's. If he does, he might be the guy who falls, and if hes there and the Hawks don't take him I would be shocked. He is an elite prospect.

Amirov and Khus are both intriguing.

Amirovs stock is rising. I don't think he's there at 17. Very Mitch Marneresque.

Marat has been compared to Datsyuk, is better then Amirov in his own zone, but isn't as silky as Dats offensively.

But.....both need to get stronger. If they can't add some weight both pretty much are what they are, boom or bust but if they boom both can be first line players.

My opinion;

1. Askarov- this guy in a couple years will be the best goalie in the NHL. The guys nickname is "The Dream Killer" for crying out loud.

2. Schneider- my opinion, the most pro ready defenseman in this draft. Hes big, he plays a tough game, and he can eat minutes. I think he will transition better then Boqvist did. I like him a bit more then Grans because I think Grans is more unrefined and needs a couple years of seasoning to hone what he has while I think schneider can step in as a bottom pairing guy and not look out of place.

3. Amirov- I honestly don't think he's there, but if he and Askarov are there the Hawks better trade for the 18 and get both.

If these guys aren't there, trade down or package the pick with a contract and get more second and thirds.

 

[KBIB]

Disagree. I really don't think the organization cares one single bit if Pirri stays "rooted" in Chicago. Ask Troy Brouwer.

Yeah well.... Troy Brouwer had some issues....

 

[KBIB]

I'm tired of the little ***** Strome. Too many little bitches on the team...Kurashev is a cheap replacement.

If he didn't get ***** slapped off the dot maybe he could help us. Sign Kubalik, promote Kurashev, and thats it. You get Shaw and Smith back to help some, Dach gets better, and you have 3 months to prove you are worthy of mortgaging any future for playoffs...otherwise its buy more bad contracts for more picks or young players.

Strome is welcome back cheap, but he is no more than a third line center going forward, and blocking Kurashev.

There's a big talent gap between Kurashev and Strome.

I understand why people are down on Strome. He's great with Kane, but who isn't?

He did pretty much play most of last year with a bad ankle. Before the shut down he was playing better. He's a second line center who needs to be flanked with great players on a team that needs to give it's next star center more ice time so he develops into the next face of this franchise. He's in a bad spot.

 

[Raskolnikov]

I was under the impression Rossi is credited for some of Quinns success, and as a "late riser" Quinn isn't a sure thing with a diminutive stature to go that far ahead of us. Its a fairly stacked list, I think the talent holds through 20 and we get a good player, but its the usual Bowman situation where its gonna be the highly skilled dimunitive player like Quinn or Amirov that falls to us with doubts about their physique, and of course SB won't be able to resist.

BPA...thats fine with me. Like you said, we can pull talent for 3 rounds, so follow up with some stout guys as close to polished as you can get,

 

[KBIB]

And let me p

I was under the impression Rossi is credited for some of Quinns success, and as a "late riser" Quinn isn't a sure thing with a diminutive stature to go that far ahead of us. Its a fairly stacked list, I think the talent holds through 20 and we get a good player, but its the usual Bowman situation where its gonna be the highly skilled dimunitive player like Quinn or Amirov that falls to us with doubts about their physique.

BPA...thats fine with me. Like you said, we can pull talent for 3 rounds, so follow up with some stout guys as close to polished as you can get,

The more I hear about Schneider, the more I want him to fall.

The Hawks podcast with Kelly has Kelly saying they've been scouting Amirov for years. I'm really thinking that's who they're leaning currently if he falls. But he's been a man among boys so far this year.

 

[Raskolnikov]

And let me p
The more I hear about Schneider, the more I want him to fall.

The Hawks podcast with Kelly has Kelly saying they've been scouting Amirov for years. I'm really thinking that's who they're leaning currently if he falls. But he's been a man among boys so far this year.

It look like Amirov is a sniper finisher. He could pair well off Kane potentially. Especially with Dach fortifying the middle and the defense when he gets a little more solid. Kane's defense is there when he wants to spend the energy on that. Its a long season type of knowing how to pace yourself, but turn it on in big moments.

Dach turns into an animal when he turns it over, and can be coached to turn that on opportunistically. I wish he had 2 years to just work out, we get his college years, if he plays like this, will earn his bridge contract and mega contract before 30. The Hawks have a #1 center for at least another decade, and I hope 2 for as many years as Toews plays, the Captain should finish here.

 

[Raskolnikov]

Amirov shows an exceptional ability to understand when to open his hips and break down, or freeze the goalies coverage zones. The net front is a bit more chaotic in NHL, time is so short, but he shows an understanding of what to do and great physical ability to do it. Goalies look exacerbated when he is left alone and beats them...like "**** GUYS...THATS THE ONE GUY WE TALKED ABOUT NOT LEAVING ALONE!!!"

He has this hip flare stride in his skating just before he shoots that is quite pronounced, using his momentum like a whip to flare(widen) the potential trajectory across the goal mouth, and then invariably places it in a tiny hole. Its a subtlety and elusiveness and accuracy, but I think I can say with decent confidence it would be worth 20+ goals if put across from Kane. I mean I think 30+ with Kane, 20+ with Toews....but

 

[Raskolnikov]

****, I'm seeing Jewels or Kampf, probably Kampf as the guy we end up losing. Taking away one more decent sized and physical player from our group. We just can't seem to find versatile guys.

Maybe it means we sign Strome and Kurashev is tasked with replacing Kampf instead.

 

[KBIB]

So whats going to happen with the expansion? Who are we likely to lose?

Pirri

 

[MassHavoc]

This would be a much better conversation if the Hawks had just lost to Edmonton

 

[Bigfoot]

I like 2 Russians in Amirov and Marat. Marat speed is filthy, but his finish reminds me of Stalberg.

 

[KBIB]

I like 2 Russians in Amirov and Marat. Marat speed is filthy, but his finish reminds me of Stalberg.

Agreed on the Stalberg comparison with Marat offensively.

Defensively tho, he's on another level then Stalberg.

Amirov is shooting up the draft and maybe into the top 10. His stock has risen that much.

The kid I've been watching alot of currently is Connor Zary and I have to say, if he's there at 17, the Hawks should take him outside of an Uber prospect (Lundell) falling. He reminds me of Bolland and a future line of Dach/Zary would be fun watching those two bulldoze ppl in the corners.

Ok, his skating isn't good, but it's not Strome bad, either.

Somebody is gonna fall, it's that apparent. I hope it's Lundell. The guy is a tank and is a knock off Toews just waiting to be drafted.

 

[Raskolnikov]

We have 4 picks in the top 81, and according to Martini should stay there and take BPA, but with two thirds the temptation to trade up a bit might be strong. Look for that if Amirov is dangling in the teens.

 

[Raskolnikov]

The top 15 looks so strong, but its the NHL so you expect enough surprises to get in on that with patience at 17, but something tells me the frustration of picking 17 with circumstances this year will be too much for Stan.

 

[KBIB]

The top 15 looks so strong, but its the NHL so you expect enough surprises to get in on that with patience at 17, but something tells me the frustration of picking 17 with circumstances this year will be too much for Stan.

Somebody is gonna reach on somebody.

Who? I don't know yet, but there's moves being made thru out the NHL right now over this draft.

You really are looking at 15 NHL'ers and around 20 more with the potential to be NHL'ers in this draft.

I'm thinking Grans is moving up and Wallander

 

[MassHavoc]

Just in case.


2020 NHL Draft
Round 1: Oct. 6, 7 p.m. ET (NBCSN, SN, TVAS)
Rounds 2-7: Oct. 7, 11:30 a.m. ET (NHLN, SN)