No Child Left Behind Going Away

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http://www.nytimes.c...ion/23educ.html



Obama to Waive Parts of No Child Left Behind



By SAM DILLON



Criticizing Congress for months of inaction in updating No Child Left Behind, President Obama on Friday offered to lift the law’s most onerous provisions, including its 2014 deadline for bringing all students to proficiency in reading and math, for states that promise to follow his administration’s own school improvement agenda.



“Congress hasn’t been able to do it, so I will,” Mr. Obama said in a speech at the White House.



“Starting today, we’ll be giving states more flexibility to meet high standards.”

Under the plan outlined by the White House, Secretary of Education Arne Duncan is inviting states that agree to overhaul low-performing schools and adopt more rigorous teacher evaluation systems to apply for relief from the Bush-era law’s 2014 deadline and other unpopular provisions. States that qualify for the waivers would be allowed to design their own school accountability systems.



Mr. Duncan sent to state governments on Friday a 17-page guidance document outlining 10 key provisions of the law that the administration is offering to waive for states that qualify. Besides the 2014 proficiency deadline, they also include requirements that schools declared failing must provide students with after-school tutoring and free bus transportation to better schools nearby. Administration officials said both those provisions of the law have been ineffective.



“This is the beginning of the end of the No Child era,” said Jack Jennings, president of the Center on Education Policy, a nonpartisan research group.



Under the new policy, only those states that have adopted new academic standards that the administration calls “college and career ready” will be eligible to receive the waivers, according to White House documents distributed on Thursday. Also, states applying for the flexibility must sketch their plans for transforming their lowest-performing schools and for establishing new ways to measure the performance of teachers and principals.



Those that meet those conditions will be eligible to ask Mr. Duncan to relieve them from the 2014 deadline on student proficiency, which state and school district leaders have long said was an impossibly high bar.



The qualifying states may also ask to be allowed to replace the No Child law’s pass-fail school report card system with accountability systems of their own design, and for new flexibility in using an estimated $1 billion of federal education money.



The commitments the administration is requiring of states closely resemble elements of the administration’s own blueprint for rewriting the No Child law, sent to Congress last year but never acted upon.



“They want to tell the states that from now on the states are going to be in charge, not the federal government,” said Chester E. Finn Jr., president of the Fordham Institute, a conservative research group. “But to get this flexibility, states have to agree to conditions that are tantamount to the blueprint that Duncan put out a year ago, so this looks like a kind of unilateral reauthorization of the law.”



The No Child law, signed by President George W. Bush in 2002, requires testing in reading and math from grades 3 through 8 and once in high school, and reporting of scores for groups of students including racial and ethnic minorities. Even the law’s critics praise it for drawing attention to student achievement gaps. But Mr. Duncan says the law, long overdue for an update, has become an obstacle as many states seek to put in new standards and other improvements.



The law gives the secretary of education broad authority to waive some of its provisions, but some Republicans have insisted that it does not empower him to condition waivers on states’ adopting a particular education agenda.



“While I appreciate some of the policies outlined in the secretary’s waivers plan, I simply cannot support a process that grants the secretary of education sweeping authority to handpick winners and losers,” said Representative John Kline, Republican of Minnesota, who is chairman of the House Education and the Workforce Committee.



“This sets a dangerous precedent. Make no mistake — this is a political move that could have a damaging impact on Congressional efforts to enact lasting reforms to current elementary and secondary education law.”



The House last week passed the first of a series of bills Mr. Kline has introduced in an effort to rewrite the No Child law, but there has been no prospect for bipartisan consensus on a full rewrite in the House or the Senate.



Under the process administration officials described on Thursday, some states that apply for waivers this fall could be reviewed by the Education Department early next year, perhaps in time to make changes before they administer spring testing. For other states applying early next year, the waivers would probably not take effect until the 2012-13 school year.



Only a handful of states, probably including Georgia, Kentucky, Wisconsin and Colorado, would be ready to apply for the waivers right away, said Eugene Wilhoit, executive director of the Council of Chief State School Officers, which worked closely with the administration in preparing the waivers process. Perhaps 20 other states could apply in 2012 after watching how the process unfolds for other states, he said.



And some states will probably not apply at all, because they are wary of disrupting their current systems of school accountability when Congress is likely to thoroughly rewrite the law within the next couple of years, Mr. Wilhoit said.



Even in states granted waivers, many of the No Child law’s fundamental features would remain in effect, including the requirements that all schools administer reading and math tests every year, and release the scores to the public in a form that shows the progress made by minority groups and disabled students.



“Students and schools need relief from No Child Left Behind and from the high stakes tests, so this looks like a good move,” said Dennis Van Roekel, president of the National Education Association, the country’s largest teachers union. “But this is just a short-term solution. We still need Congress to rewrite the law.”



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Was not given enough time. That was something that would take several generations to realize the need for change. It was also poorly received by the educators as it indicated that they were doing a poor job...and they are "too smart" for that. In a 30 second commercial world, this is no surprise.
 

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Another, great concept, poor execution.
 

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How about we start with abolishing the Dept. of Education, turn over the running of the schools by each state with federal dollars coming in to the states to fiscally support local education. This would also open the door to more private schools, vouchers and competitivive choices. The public system is a failure over all.



The federal government running our school system has worked quite well, eh?
 

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How about we start with abolishing the Dept. of Education, turn over the running of the schools by each state with federal dollars coming in to the states to fiscally support local education. This would also open the door to more private schools, vouchers and competitivive choices. The public system is a failure over all.



The federal government running our school system has worked quite well, eh?



What is really the difference? Government is Government be it state or federal. A fully privatized school system is also an impossibility.
 

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The Department of Ed holds too many assets to just be let go now.
 

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Here's my take on fixing or helping education. Teachers are grossly underpaid. There are too many kids per class and not enough educators for them. That is the biggest issue in lack of education - or at least what I hear from anyone I know that is a teacher. They were getting pay cuts, or getting let go - meaning the teachers that stayed with the school - get more kids added to their class. It adds more stress to them...and for 30K a year...they say **** it, and look for another job.



Sooooo.....here's my solution. It goes to College Athletics - specifically, the NCAA. In Sept 2010, here were some numbers -



In all, the NCAA brought in more than $700-million in revenue last year, up from nearly $660-million the previous year. The bulk of that money—just under $590-million—came from television-rights fees. The NCAA's television contract at the time, which it replaced in April with a more-lucrative agreement, was backloaded to provide the association with greater payouts in the final years of the deal.

Other sources of income for the NCAA included championships and ticket sales (more than $75-million), membership fees (about $12-million), and rights and royalties (just below $8-million).

Much of the NCAA's money is doled out to its 1,200 member institutions and athletic conferences in the form of grants and scholarships. But those contributions vary greatly: Last year, for instance, the NCAA shared $32-million with the Big Ten Conference, in Division I-A; $4-million with the Sun Belt Conference, in Division I-AA; and $72,000 with the Old Dominion Athletic Conference, in Division III.

As a nonprofit organization, the NCAA is not required to pay taxes on its income. That has rankled some critics of spending in college sports, including a few members of Congress, who have asked the association to justify its tax-exempt status.



So, 700 Million dollar tax free revenue per year. They don't pay their student athletes - which I don't think they should. I do think that the scholarships are enough 'pay' that ask any college student, they would LOVE to leave college with a degree and zero loans to pay back. The NCAA is mis managing money and using 'education' as a word and punchline while sitting back and just raking in money. Regulate THEM. They have nonprofit status through our government - well, make them use money to put back into education.



Base percentages given back, per state/colleges. For instance....1/2 (350mil) the money could go back to improving education at the High School Level - while still making their 350mil to jerk off with. They money can be divided out per how many state colleges your state has.



That money, being used to teachers - not principles, board members, etc - but TEACHERS to produce better students, who may not become college athletes, but COLLEGE GRADUATES - may go along way in using the money to improve students.



Sorry for the long rant.
 

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Here's my take on fixing or helping education. Teachers are grossly underpaid. There are too many kids per class and not enough educators for them. That is the biggest issue in lack of education - or at least what I hear from anyone I know that is a teacher. They were getting pay cuts, or getting let go - meaning the teachers that stayed with the school - get more kids added to their class. It adds more stress to them...and for 30K a year...they say **** it, and look for another job.



Sooooo.....here's my solution. It goes to College Athletics - specifically, the NCAA. In Sept 2010, here were some numbers -



In all, the NCAA brought in more than $700-million in revenue last year, up from nearly $660-million the previous year. The bulk of that money—just under $590-million—came from television-rights fees. The NCAA's television contract at the time, which it replaced in April with a more-lucrative agreement, was backloaded to provide the association with greater payouts in the final years of the deal.

Other sources of income for the NCAA included championships and ticket sales (more than $75-million), membership fees (about $12-million), and rights and royalties (just below $8-million).

Much of the NCAA's money is doled out to its 1,200 member institutions and athletic conferences in the form of grants and scholarships. But those contributions vary greatly: Last year, for instance, the NCAA shared $32-million with the Big Ten Conference, in Division I-A; $4-million with the Sun Belt Conference, in Division I-AA; and $72,000 with the Old Dominion Athletic Conference, in Division III.

As a nonprofit organization, the NCAA is not required to pay taxes on its income. That has rankled some critics of spending in college sports, including a few members of Congress, who have asked the association to justify its tax-exempt status.



So, 700 Million dollar tax free revenue per year. They don't pay their student athletes - which I don't think they should. I do think that the scholarships are enough 'pay' that ask any college student, they would LOVE to leave college with a degree and zero loans to pay back. The NCAA is mis managing money and using 'education' as a word and punchline while sitting back and just raking in money. Regulate THEM. They have nonprofit status through our government - well, make them use money to put back into education.



Base percentages given back, per state/colleges. For instance....1/2 (350mil) the money could go back to improving education at the High School Level - while still making their 350mil to jerk off with. They money can be divided out per how many state colleges your state has.



That money, being used to teachers - not principles, board members, etc - but TEACHERS to produce better students, who may not become college athletes, but COLLEGE GRADUATES - may go along way in using the money to improve students.



Sorry for the long rant.



Great post, but where do you live where teachers only make 30k?
 

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I'm not sure paying teachers more is the winning solution. I'd much rather pay more teachers, and invest in infrastructure. Smaller classes, better rooms, newer materials. Teachers are great and all, and you obviously have to pay them well enough to keep the good ones going. But just throwing more money at teachers isn't going to make things better or them better. You need more certified teachers to take the burdens off the ones that are there. Then maybe they wouldn't feel so underpaid. It's a 9-10 month job with ample vacations days in between. I can't say this without disrespecting people, but I'm so tired of teachers screaming about how underpaid, abused, mistreated, woe as me they are. It's not heart surgery, you aren't writing the text books. It can be very challenging but so are all jobs. If you don't like it quit. Even starting at 30, for say 9 months of work, that's the equivalent to 40k a full year, and that's definitely more than I made at my first job here in Chicago, where the starting pay for a CPS teacher is (BA) is 50,577 for 193 days... Roughly... 262 a day. or $32 an hour (8 hour day). That's more than I make now even those to total is less. Yes I know there are a lot of different extra hours involved and this and that, I get it, but if you think I work 40 hours a week at my job every week you'd be mistaken.
 

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I'm not sure paying teachers more is the winning solution. I'd much rather pay more teachers, and invest in infrastructure. Smaller classes, better rooms, newer materials. Teachers are great and all, and you obviously have to pay them well enough to keep the good ones going. But just throwing more money at teachers isn't going to make things better or them better. You need more certified teachers to take the burdens off the ones that are there. Then maybe they wouldn't feel so underpaid. It's a 9-10 month job with ample vacations days in between. I can't say this without disrespecting people, but I'm so tired of teachers screaming about how underpaid, abused, mistreated, woe as me they are. It's not heart surgery, you aren't writing the text books. It can be very challenging but so are all jobs. If you don't like it quit. Even starting at 30, for say 9 months of work, that's the equivalent to 40k a full year, and that's definitely more than I made at my first job here in Chicago, where the starting pay for a CPS teacher is (BA) is 50,577 for 193 days... Roughly... 262 a day. or $32 an hour (8 hour day). That's more than I make now even those to total is less. Yes I know there are a lot of different extra hours involved and this and that, I get it, but if you think I work 40 hours a week at my job every week you'd be mistaken.



Couldnt have said it better, I always come off like an ass when I tell teachers to quit their bitching.



I remember watching this video blog by this elementary ed teacher who counted coaching 2 of the sports teams as "extra work" he was basically going to keep the blog for a year to prove how much more than 40hrs a week he works.



counting coaching teams as part of those extra hours is so BS its not even funny. Unless he got hired under the stipulation he had to coach the teams, it was a choice. Many people coach for fun.





Seriously most of the elementary ed teachers I've met are some of the most self absorbed, pretentious asshats I have ever met. Maybe if they would be a little more humble and not act like they are the most important people who ever walked the earth and everyone elses job is irrelevant. More people might have pity for them. I once let a comment slip on facebook about teacher pay on a friends fb page, and this rabid PMSing e ed teacher basically berated me saying how useless to society my job is and how important she is. yeah well, I will lament that all the way to the bank, and by the way, we wouldnt be having this conversation if it wasnt for people with my useless to society job.
 

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Arizona...it's a brutal education system out here



I agree a bit about them bitching about pay, etc - to an extent. It's not that I know a bunch, and people that ***** just to ***** - never get sympathy either.



However (and maybe it is just AZ), the few I knew said the same thing - where they were asked to take pay cuts...where others where let go at their school - and their class sizes increased. The time concuming part was trying to teach the added kids/pass standards, and deal with lunatic parents when the kids weren't 'getting' it.



My theory may not be to pay teachers more...but maybe hire more then using money from the NCAA? Have a higher teacher to student ratio may be able to educate them better.
 

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I'm not sure paying teachers more is the winning solution. I'd much rather pay more teachers, and invest in infrastructure. Smaller classes, better rooms, newer materials. Teachers are great and all, and you obviously have to pay them well enough to keep the good ones going. But just throwing more money at teachers isn't going to make things better or them better. You need more certified teachers to take the burdens off the ones that are there. Then maybe they wouldn't feel so underpaid. It's a 9-10 month job with ample vacations days in between. I can't say this without disrespecting people, but I'm so tired of teachers screaming about how underpaid, abused, mistreated, woe as me they are. It's not heart surgery, you aren't writing the text books. It can be very challenging but so are all jobs. If you don't like it quit. Even starting at 30, for say 9 months of work, that's the equivalent to 40k a full year, and that's definitely more than I made at my first job here in Chicago, where the starting pay for a CPS teacher is (BA) is 50,577 for 193 days... Roughly... 262 a day. or $32 an hour (8 hour day). That's more than I make now even those to total is less. Yes I know there are a lot of different extra hours involved and this and that, I get it, but if you think I work 40 hours a week at my job every week you'd be mistaken.



I agree to an extent if people actually left teachers to teach and didn't use them as a baby sitting service also. Teachers have all the rights in the world to complain because they have become the primary socializing mechanism in society now. There is a lot of pressure on them and they take a lot of abuse from parents who expect them to socialize their children under their rules and guidelines. Rules and guideline that are never the same parent to parent. They are indeed well deserving of their 2 months vacations and a respectable pay. Teachers are also the reason we have heart surgeons and doctors to a large extent. Because along with teaching, baby sitting, socializing many are also support systems and help motivating.



I think teachers provide one of the most essential services in our society and work extremely hard under expectations that are sometimes very unfair on them. One has to be incredibly passionate to be a teacher in my opinion and well educated in many areas themselves to be a good one. I think there is a myth out there that teachers aren't still working during their 2 month "vacations". The teachers I know are taking seminars during these breaks and constantly working on their teaching skills and teaching changes etc etc. They also don't work the 8 hour work day that the average worker works. Teachers are up early and up late continuing to grade papers and catch up on other work loads associated with classroom work and work of their institution (well the good ones are anyways).



I don't think many see what teachers actually do and how hard they work. and how much they influence other professions and job markets. If I had my way a good teacher would probably be one of the highest paid people on the planet taking with the responsibilities we have placed on them in our society.
 

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Wait a minute. After thinking about how fucked up the world is and how stupid everyone is (myself included..its important everyone knows when that when I call everyone stupid I include myself) and seeing teachers and schools are the main socializing mechanisms in our society and teach us all how to be fucking stupid...**** teachers!!! Throw em to the curb they are all doing shitty jobs!!! Curb stomp them American History X style.



Teachers are the reason the economy sucks, the reason there are wars and poverty.



Let the dingos teach our children..if they don't eat them first.
 

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George Carlin again said it best:

Don't ever look for education [among other things] to get better. Because the owners of this country don't want critically thinking people. They don't want you sitting down [drowning out for a minute all the side shows and distractions that are thrown at you every day] and realizing how badly everyone is getting fucked over by a system that threw them overboard. They don't want that, they want obedient workers. People that are just smart enough to run the machines and fill out the paper work while being dumb enough to passively accept increasingly shittier jobs, lower wages, longer hours, reduced benefits, the end of overtime,the vanishing pensions and now they're coming for your retirement money to give to their criminal friends on Wall Street.



No one seems to notice, no one seems to care. Honest, hard working people continue to believe in and "elect" these **** suckers who don't give a shit about you. They don't care about you, at all, at all. No one seems to notice. And the owners count on that, Americans staying willfully ignorant of the red white and blue dick being shoved up their assholes every day. The owners know the truth, it's called the American Dream - you have to be asleep to believe it.
 

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I agree to an extent if people actually left teachers to teach and didn't use them as a baby sitting service also. Teachers have all the rights in the world to complain because they have become the primary socializing mechanism in society now. There is a lot of pressure on them and they take a lot of abuse from parents who expect them to socialize their children under their rules and guidelines. Rules and guideline that are never the same parent to parent. They are indeed well deserving of their 2 months vacations and a respectable pay. Teachers are also the reason we have heart surgeons and doctors to a large extent. Because along with teaching, baby sitting, socializing many are also support systems and help motivating.



I think teachers provide one of the most essential services in our society and work extremely hard under expectations that are sometimes very unfair on them. One has to be incredibly passionate to be a teacher in my opinion and well educated in many areas themselves to be a good one. I think there is a myth out there that teachers aren't still working during their 2 month "vacations". The teachers I know are taking seminars during these breaks and constantly working on their teaching skills and teaching changes etc etc. They also don't work the 8 hour work day that the average worker works. Teachers are up early and up late continuing to grade papers and catch up on other work loads associated with classroom work and work of their institution (well the good ones are anyways).



I don't think many see what teachers actually do and how hard they work. and how much they influence other professions and job markets. If I had my way a good teacher would probably be one of the highest paid people on the planet taking with the responsibilities we have placed on them in our society.







I agree that teachers are important for strong societies and job skills. The problem is the education culture. It is one that preaches team work and doing best for others. The reality is that the education culture fosters elitism, individualism, "always right-ism" (just coined by me), and ignore\drag feet rather than talk among their ranks. The focus and purpose of the job has been lost. Change that and I would be content with the salaries and benefits. Although I have to say it is a rather fun challenge for me to be working in the education industry with a very team first mentality. I make many enemies, but because things get done and done in the manner they preach they cannot **** with me (too much).
 

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I agree to an extent if people actually left teachers to teach and didn't use them as a baby sitting service also. Teachers have all the rights in the world to complain because they have become the primary socializing mechanism in society now. There is a lot of pressure on them and they take a lot of abuse from parents who expect them to socialize their children under their rules and guidelines. Rules and guideline that are never the same parent to parent. They are indeed well deserving of their 2 months vacations and a respectable pay. Teachers are also the reason we have heart surgeons and doctors to a large extent. Because along with teaching, baby sitting, socializing many are also support systems and help motivating. I think teachers provide one of the most essential services in our society and work extremely hard under expectations that are sometimes very unfair on them. One has to be incredibly passionate to be a teacher in my opinion and well educated in many areas themselves to be a good one. I think there is a myth out there that teachers aren't still working during their 2 month "vacations". The teachers I know are taking seminars during these breaks and constantly working on their teaching skills and teaching changes etc etc. They also don't work the 8 hour work day that the average worker works. Teachers are up early and up late continuing to grade papers and catch up on other work loads associated with classroom work and work of their institution (well the good ones are anyways). I don't think many see what teachers actually do and how hard they work. and how much they influence other professions and job markets. If I had my way a good teacher would probably be one of the highest paid people on the planet taking with the responsibilities we have placed on them in our society.



same for most non-union professionals. Keeping up with the joneses is the name of the game for me. I have to constantly be up on the latest technologies in the development world, and that is done on my own time. i rarely if ever work just a 40hr work week and I'm salary so I don't get paid for it. On the same token I don't ***** about it, I accept it as reality.



And for most elementary ed. Its a 4month and change vacation teachers get June-Sept and 3 weeks for winter and spring. Then the various other holidays. I for example roughly accrue 20 days of vacation time per year + major holidays.



Don't get me wrong, in alot of cases elementary school teachers dont even get paid a livable wage and I dont agree with that. I have 3 friends that are elementary ed teachers who started at just over 20 grand and thats bad.



Heres the thing. I differentiate by what a teacher teaches. I have no problem giving highschool teachers 50+ a year. They had to get a degree in what they teach, they know their shit and put in the work.



ELEMENTARY ED is by far the easiest fucking degree to get on the face of the planet. Ive seen what they had to do for this degree and its like repeating middle school, give me a friggin break. Everyone and their mother was an elementary Ed major at illinois state (arguably it is one of the bigger education schools in the country).



If they want to make that degree more rigorous requiring higher level courses in the array of classes they will be teaching. Fine their pay will go up by default, because less people will be getting the degree, leading to less teachers leading to higher pay, because right now elementary ed teachers a very replaceable because there are so many.



and I know elementary ed teachers hate when you point out their cake walk degree. "But I love teaching, i didnt do it because it was easy". Irrelevant, your pay is not based on whether you love your job. supply and demand.
 

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