Numbers Don't Add Up For Impact Move (ESPN Chicago article)

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Numbers don't add up for impact move
By: Nick Friedell, ESPN NBA writer
November 29th, 2011

CHICAGO -- There's a harsh reality hitting Chicago Bulls fans in the face this week and it's not just the wind ripping off Lake Michigan. It's the fact that their beloved basketball team isn't going to have much money to spend heading into what figures to be one of the most frenetic and compact free agency periods ever next week.

The problem for the Bulls is that most of their salary cap space is tied up in four players: Derrick Rose, Carlos Boozer, Joakim Noah and Luol Deng. Rose is in the final year of his rookie deal and will be getting a max extension as soon as the lockout ends. Boozer still has four years and about $60 million dollars left on the deal he signed last summer. Noah enters into the first year of a five-year contract worth almost $60 million this season. Deng still has three years and almost $40 million left on his deal.

Their bench is fairly intact as well, at least for this season. Ronnie Brewer and Kyle Korver will be back. As will C.J. Watson, Omer Asik and Taj Gibson. That's about as solid of a nine-man rotation as there will be in the league this season. Not to mention the fact that the team still has to make a decision on whether they want to pick up the option to Keith Bogans' contract.

Essentially, the Bulls are almost capped out already.

How did it happen so quickly?

The biggest reason is because Noah went from making a little over $3 million last season to a little over $12 million this season. John Lucas III has a non-guaranteed deal, but that is less than a $1 million, so it won't make much of a difference either way.

So what do the Bulls do to improve?

Fans have focused on the two-guard spot all summer but for all the possibilities that have been bounced around, there's a solid chance Brewer, Bogans and Korver will get the chunk of minutes at that spot again.

Brewer has been open over the summer about his desire to earn a starting spot during training camp, especially given that he was hurt when training camp opened a year ago. Thibodeau may very well decide to give Brewer more minutes, have Korver come off the bench and return Bogans back to the role he was signed for last summer as basically the third two-guard, used sparingly off the bench.

The Bulls are going to look at every possibility as far as two-guards go and have undoubtedly discussed the possible amnesty cuts that could happen throughout the league. But the issue again is whether the Bulls even have enough to sign the players who could truly make a difference.

Jason Richardson, the guy a lot of fans want to come in and fill the hole at the two-guard slot, made close to $15 million last season. Is he really going to come to Chicago for the full mid-level exception which would start at $5 million this season? There will almost certainly be teams lined up to pay him more than that. How much of a pay cut is he willing to take to go after a title?

Jamal Crawford made almost $11 million last season. Would he really come back to Chicago for just $5 million when there will be other teams willing to pay him more. Is he even a good fit?

Arron Afflalo is a restricted free agent so the Denver Nuggets can match any offer he gets. He's going to get a lot more than the Bulls could give him.

What about the potential amnesty cuts?

First of all, there are plenty of people around the league who don't think there will be as many amnesty cuts as the average fan thinks. As far as the Bulls go, the one name that has risen to prominence recently is Brandon Roy, whom the Portland Trail Blazers are expected to amnesty whenever the new labor deal becomes official.

Aside from the fact that Roy's knees are a huge question mark at best and may force him to retire early, the Bulls figure to have a hard time in landing his services as well.

Teams with cap room can submit competing offers to acquire an amnestied player at a reduced rate before he hits free agency and can sign with any team, according to ESPN capologist Larry Coon.

How much are the Bulls going to be able to offer if they are already pretty much capped out? Would Roy and his chronically bad knees even be that much of an upgrade? How would he be able to hold up during such a compact schedule?

The Bulls could always go the trade route, but they have been very hesitant in the past to part with Gibson and Asik, the two players almost every team asks about. Plus, even before the lockout, Bulls management wasn't sure if there was a player on the market (at least one they had a legitimate chance at getting) who could put them over the top.

The truth is that there is a very good chance the 2011-2012 Bulls will look much like the 2010-2011 edition. Obviously, the team will continue to look at all its options in the coming weeks, but more than anything, they are banking on the fact that Rose will improve, Noah and Boozer will play better in their second year together, Deng will continue to stay healthy and be productive and Tom Thibodeau will find a way to get his team to take the next step.

Is that formula enough to push the Bulls past the Miami Heat this season? The reality for anyone who thought the Bulls would be able to make a major splash before the season needs to check the numbers one more time. The big money has already been spent. Unless there is a player out there willing to take a huge financial hit, the answer for this squad is going to have to come from within.

Thoughts?
 

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The last two paragraphs. Unless there's a trade, we're gonna look the same. That might be a good thing, players will be familiar with each others style of play, in other words Boozer and Noah not fighting over the rebounds.

But although I knew we were pretty much cap'd out or close to it,....... I'm still hpoin they'll go 'All In' and make a trade. Package some picks and get someone, we sure as hell don't need to get younger.
 
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That's fine and dandy and a very realistic article.
But as a Bulls fan I'm concerned about the Bulls title contention.
For 1, Derrick Rose will have the same pressure of doing just about everything against the toughest defenders which will put a lot of strain on his physical health..I hope he doesn't get injured and become another Roy..I know you all must realize that opposng teams are really going to come down hard on the MVP this season..He's like a major target now and everone knows that taking Rose out of the equation eliminates the Bulls as a factor...
Teams are going to come harder on the Bulls, for they are exposed now and no longer underdogs under the radar.

I understand that the Bulls don't have a lot to spend and that our roster may be almost identicle as last season.
And I will be honest and say ill be dissapointed when the starting lineup is announced and you hear Bogans name called over the speakers.
In order for the Bulls to be able to sign a free agent 2 guard, they will have to cut someone off there roster, or make a trade.
And in order to make a trade for a differance maker, we will have to give up a differance maker...

THE DAM BOOZER AND DENG CONTRACTS....

It is what it is and we will just have to wait and see.
 
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We'll see....I'm just for an addition at SG. For the love of God....GarPax, get us a positive contributor of some sort in the SG spot. No...more...Bogans. We need more than he can offer. Let him walk or make a decent trade including him (sign & trade him) to get someone that will take a lot of pressure off Rose to do too much.
 

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Thoughts...Its true. I didnt know how little we had until i saw some tweets the other night. Our only hope is that J-Rich or Crawford are willing to take less to play for a winner.

Thats why i was holding out hope that Noahs contract would have been less. Ive been down on Boozer and i'd like to see him stay, but maybe getting that contract out of here is a good idea. Taj cant replace him(offensively) but Taj showed that he can play with the best of them in the biggest moments. Maybe we can cut Boozer and split what, near 20M? between another PF and SG.
 

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Thoughts...Its true. I didnt know how little we had until i saw some tweets the other night. Our only hope is that J-Rich or Crawford are willing to take less to play for a winner.
Thats why i was holding out hope that Noahs contract would have been less. Ive been down on Boozer and i'd like to see him stay, but maybe getting that contract out of here is a good idea. Taj cant replace him(offensively) but Taj showed that he can play with the best of them in the biggest moments. Maybe we can cut Boozer and split what, near 20M? between another PF and SG.

Bolded is exactly the type of senario that I hope for....but sad to say it may be slim to non that would do that.
 

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Thoughts...Its true. I didnt know how little we had until i saw some tweets the other night. Our only hope is that J-Rich or Crawford are willing to take less to play for a winner.

Thats why i was holding out hope that Noahs contract would have been less. Ive been down on Boozer and i'd like to see him stay, but maybe getting that contract out of here is a good idea. Taj cant replace him(offensively) but Taj showed that he can play with the best of them in the biggest moments. Maybe we can cut Boozer and split what, near 20M? between another PF and SG.

Boozer was the big move Forman made last year. I don't think Gar-Pax would like to deal with the publicity of shipping a guy one year into bringing him in. But they should. If the teams stay the way it is and only adds a mid level G, its gonna be tough. Were gonna need to work for everything we get if we wanna duplicate last years success.

Boozee+Noah+a G+1st Round draft+ 3rd rounder might get you the best player wanting out of his current situation, along with a SG we were corting last off season :shifty: But Idk if they'd be willing to part with Boozer so soon.
 
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AE, youre right. It would make them look bad and thats a big reason why it wont happen.

CTB. I think you might be able to with Richardson. Cut JL3 and you have an extra million to work with. Not a lot but its something.
 

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I wouldn't want to cut Boozer VIA the amnesty clause, but I guarantee you we'd be able to trade him to a team for a few assets (SG obviously being the biggest one) and either a draft pick or another defender off the bench. I still wouldn't be opposed to a Boozer of Iguodala swap. Iggy is a much more sound defender and has shown that he's able to carry some of the scoring load if needed, so it's not like he HAS to get the ball in order to be an effective player, unlike somebody like Jamal Crawford who would be another potential option for the Bulls. It's paramount to add a complimentary player that doesn't emulate Rose's skill set. We'd still have Gibson to fill in for Boozer's vacancy, plus Asik on the bench. It'd be much easier to fill the void of a reserve forward as opposed to a potent scorer/perimeter defender.
 

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Why are people still talking about cutting Boozer when the player the Bulls should want to cut is Kyle Korver?

His contract is much worse than Boozer's, per-dollar, because he gives you absolutely nothing that is going to be useful in a playoff series with the Miami Heat.
 

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Thats true Rami. Im all for parting with kyle if we get the right shooter in return.
 

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this is why I think the Bulls should have made a move for a SG before last years deadline or last years draft.

I know they like Asik and what he brings on defense.. but if we packaged him with 2 first round picks, we could have gotten a solid starting SG. probably no one AMAZING, but it's not like Asik is dwight howard.. and our need is someone who can play the 2 spot and take pressure off of Rose.
 

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It shouldn't surprise anyone that we're capped out right now. The key is whether a guy like JRich would be willing to take that pay cut to try to win a title. Are the guys we're looking at just looking to make as much money as possible, or do they want a ring? I'm not sure if Richardson is a ring chaser just yet, but it's not like he's going to get paid a ton this next contract. A Boozer for Iggy trade is something that I'd do in a heartbeat. Yeah we lose our main post presence, but Gibson and Noah can make up for defensively what they lack offensively. Unfortunately, I don't think a deal liike that would even be considered. I'm not sure if cutting Korver is the answer either. Yeah he's making a lot for what he brings to the table, but the main thing we lack is outside scoring/shooting, and Korver definitely brings a lot of shooting. He might not be worth much against the Heat come playoff time, but what about in the Finals if we beat the Heat? It's not like we're locks to win if we get past the Heat. Unless the SG we get can shoot well from 3, Korver provides court spacing that no one else on the roster can come close to bringing.
 

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J rich has made it clear that he wants to play for a team that will be a contender. An ideal fit would be the Bulls since we need a SG and we're in the ECF last season. Big question is if he would be willing to take a 10 million dollar pay cut [from how much he made last season.] Idk if he would.

Then again.. how many teams contending for a title need a SG and have enough cap space to give up like 7-10 mil a year?

So maybe there's still a shot at him coming here. I doubt it though
 

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J rich has made it clear that he wants to play for a team that will be a contender. An ideal fit would be the Bulls since we need a SG and we're in the ECF last season. Big question is if he would be willing to take a 10 million dollar pay cut [from how much he made last season.] Idk if he would.

Then again.. how many teams contending for a title need a SG and have enough cap space to give up like 7-10 mil a year?

So maybe there's still a shot at him coming here. I doubt it though
If he really was committed to trying to win that ring, he'd take the pay cut.
 

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IDK, theyll try to figure something out that helps the heat bring more talent to their team

If the Heat can add to their team, we should be able to add to ours too.
 

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