Nylander Out 4-6 Months

[JimAKABlkhwks918]

MEDICAL UPDATE: Alex Nylander Out 4-6 Months | Chicago Blackhawks

Forward recovering from successful surgery following meniscus tear

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[Tater]

Well there goes the dream of a Cup this year...

 

[RacerX]

O Joker where art thou?

 

[ruprecht]

Best news this off-season. I hate to celebrate injuries, but.....

 

[Raskolnikov]

I came here, stoned, almost an hour ago to respond to this, its why I signed in...I was so happy when I saw the great news...I wanted to come hip hip hurray and shit but being stoned I got completely and utterly lost in the CCS wormholes, so much so that just as I was leaving I SAW THIS GREAT NEWS AGAIN!!

And all the happiness and joy that CCS took from me returned in a momentous rush, like a waterfall that blasts through deep long cut grooves below and sprays back upward in a thunderous orgasm spraying wildly high into the air and covering every last inch of all the voluptuous rocks!!!

I jumped back up and pumped my fist like Tiger Woods winning his first Masters. At the top of my lungs I screamed "Hallellulah"...

oh yeah...and get well soon, recover fully, and kick some ass and prove yourself to everyone and save Stan's job when you get back!! Good luck kid.

 

[ruprecht]

Not Hawks related, but Kucherov out for the regular season....makes Tampa a little more vulnerable

 

[Ares]

I remember when we traded Jokiharju for Nylander and I thought "Huh for a team with shitty defense, it seems like a bad idea to trade a young 1st round D man for a struggling 1st round Winger, but wtf do I know?"

Joker isn't playing up to his draft position, but he is healthy.

We traded a 1st round D man with potential for a bad Nylander who is bad and got worse and is now also injured.

I can't wait to see a bad Nylander return on a bum knee so he can be even worse than when we got him.

Stan Bowman can **** a hat.

 

[Raskolnikov]

This potentially hurts more than it appears if he then cannot qualify for the expansion draft.

 

[DaHawkz24]

Looks like Kirby Dach got hurt in the Canada vs Russia Jr game. Hand, wrist, arm area. Hopefully nothing serious, but didn't look good the way he took his glove off

 

[gopher72]

4-6 months for a meniscus? That's an ACL timeline. Somebody is hiding something.

 

[Raskolnikov]

4-6 months for a meniscus? That's an ACL timeline. Somebody is hiding something.

Its if you get the reconstructive surgery like Derek Rose.
If you just cut off, clip off the effected tear, i had a teammate play a rugby game the same weekend, 5 days after I think(but he was a tough as nails South Korean national I also saw play with a blown up wrist two days after a horrific downhill longboarding accident). Usually 2-4 week timetable given.

Reconstruction is potentially better long term if everything goes right but more guys have problems and the rehab is lengthy and cautious.

 

[JimAKABlkhwks918]

Its if you get the reconstructive surgery like Derek Rose.
If you just cut off, clip off the effected tear, i had a teammate play a rugby game the same weekend, 5 days after I think. Usually a 2-3 week timetable.

Reconstruction is potentially better long term if everything goes right but more guys have problems and the rehab is lengthy and cautious.

My knee was really bothering me a few years ago...my docs are all through Rush, so I got referred to their orthos by my primary. They x-rayed it, said no bone or cartilage damage and no arthritis, and based on my location of pain, that it was the meniscus. Rush orthos take care of the Bulls, White Sox, and Fire. The doctor told me that the Bulls hosted some kind of NBA wide camp over the summer some years ago. They asked players to participate in some voluntary medical testing for research, specific to the knees. She told me they found that 70% of the players tested had what an MRI revealed to be a meniscus tear that would be classified moderate to severe, yet only a low percentage of that group listed any problems with their knee prior to the MRI. The meniscus is weird. I got a cortisone shot on the spot, and after a few days the knee was like new.

 

[HSBOB]

My knee was really bothering me a few years ago...my docs are all through Rush, so I got referred to their orthos by my primary. They x-rayed it, said no bone or cartilage damage and no arthritis, and based on my location of pain, that it was the meniscus. Rush orthos take care of the Bulls, White Sox, and Fire. The doctor told me that the Bulls hosted some kind of NBA wide camp over the summer some years ago. They asked players to participate in some voluntary medical testing for research, specific to the knees. She told me they found that 70% of the players tested had what an MRI revealed to be a meniscus tear that would be classified moderate to severe, yet only a low percentage of that group listed any problems with their knee prior to the MRI. The meniscus is weird. I got a cortisone shot on the spot, and after a few days the knee was like new.

Had a debilitating pain in front and just below the knee cap 4 years back and my guy put the needle to it also,it's been good since but he other one's gettin' close to needin' the needle now too.........gettin' old ain't for sissies!

 

[JimAKABlkhwks918]

Had a debilitating pain in front and just below the knee cap 4 years back and my guy put the needle to it also,it's been good since but he other one's gettin' close to needin' the needle now too.........gettin' old ain't for sissies!

If I was able to make a bet that day, I would have lost a lot of money. When the doc said that she recommended the shot, I asked about scheduling a follow up visit. She said, "No follow up, if you want to go that way then we'll do it right now." I said okay, and two of her associate doctors came in, one with a small needle, and one with a 3" needle. I about shit myself, and if they would have bet me that they could put a 3" needle into the soft spot on the side of my knee with zero pain, I'd have dropped at least $300 on that action. These youngsters hit me with the small needle: the numb-numb, and did that in a way that I hardly felt a pinch. Wait 10 minutes, and I nervously watched that 3" needle disappear into my knee absolutely painlessly, inject, mild sensation of pressure, needle out, small cotton ball and Band-Aid on, and we're done here. Amazing.

 

[HSBOB]

I remember when we traded Jokiharju for Nylander and I thought "Huh for a team with shitty defense, it seems like a bad idea to trade a young 1st round D man for a struggling 1st round Winger, but wtf do I know?"

Joker isn't playing up to his draft position, but he is healthy.

We traded a 1st round D man with potential for a bad Nylander who is bad and got worse and is now also injured.

I can't wait to see a bad Nylander return on a bum knee so he can be even worse than when we got him.

Stan Bowman can **** a hat.

Henri Jokiharju made the opening night lineup @19 for a curmudgeonly Q,he helped the Finns beat NHL players in the WC's the following summer then went on to play em all on a crowded blueline for a very demanding Ralph Krueger @20.........I have to consider this living up to the 29th overall pick. The 'Joker' saw 15 guarded minutes a game to start last year(as he should have) but he was skatin' 20+ by the end and in all situations. His offense needs work but his play in his own end allowed the Sabres to move both Bogosian and Scandella late in the year.
I watched a LOTTA Sabres hockey on 'center ice' last year and I plan to watch more this year since the team should be much better but they still need goaltending.........they woulda been the perfect landing spot for Crawford IMO.........or at least a better landing spot than the Devils.
Jokiharju had 20lbs on either Boqvist,Beaudin or Mitchell and he's a right shot...........the only RH D-men now on the roster are Murphy,Seabs and Boqvist.........Mitchell too if he makes it.

 

[Raskolnikov]

Henri Jokiharju made the opening night lineup @19 for a curmudgeonly Q,he helped the Finns beat NHL players in the WC's the following summer then went on to play em all on a crowded blueline for a very demanding Ralph Krueger @20.........I have to consider this living up to the 29th overall pick. The 'Joker' saw 15 guarded minutes a game to start last year(as he should have) but he was skatin' 20+ by the end and in all situations. His offense needs work but his play in his own end allowed the Sabres to move both Bogosian and Scandella late in the year.
I watched a LOTTA Sabres hockey on 'center ice' last year and I plan to watch more this year since the team should be much better but they still need goaltending.........they woulda been the perfect landing spot for Crawford IMO.........or at least a better landing spot than the Devils.
Jokiharju had 20lbs on either Boqvist,Beaudin or Mitchell and he's a right shot...........the only RH D-men now on the roster are Murphy,Seabs and Boqvist.........Mitchell too if he makes it.

I like Stan and I really wanted to see him succeed.

I have an intellectual juggernaut father I followed around half my life, overlooked in the shadows, but knowing my place and observing while getting first class mentorship at home, so I guess I have a soft spot for Bowman and sympothize with some of the grief he gets, but you just can't defend the string of mistakes including losing TVR in expansion and Vegas getting a Second round pick or first rounder, whatever it was. We usually don't even get to that small detail in the laundry list.

TVR and Joker really hurt us. Seabs contract killed us. Hossa situation was doctors failing to squeeze out another year or two. Panarin and Seabs are fireable mistakes. Q's reaction tells you all you need to know...thats a no. You don't lose a player of that caliber. You just don't. They are yours, your lucky, you figure it out.

The very fact that Panarin was in the house should have made the Seabs situation easy. He would have gotten a fine contract to play in Canada on a shit team. Not what the Hawks gave, but he would have been richly paid to go home.

If you can't see the salary jam coming on Seabs with baby faced Panarin slap shotting everything that comes his way into the upper V...what can you see really? That was a lay-up.

 

[HSBOB]

If I was able to make a bet that day, I would have lost a lot of money. When the doc said that she recommended the shot, I asked about scheduling a follow up visit. She said, "No follow up, if you want to go that way then we'll do it right now." I said okay, and two of her associate doctors came in, one with a small needle, and one with a 3" needle. I about shit myself, and if they would have bet me that they could put a 3" needle into the soft spot on the side of my knee with zero pain, I'd have dropped at least $300 on that action. These youngsters hit me with the small needle: the numb-numb, and did that in a way that I hardly felt a pinch. Wait 10 minutes, and I nervously watched that 3" needle disappear into my knee absolutely painlessly, inject, mild sensation of pressure, needle out, small cotton ball and Band-Aid on, and we're done here. Amazing.

My Doc's also a good buddy so I had faith in him and since he had given me a shot in the 'tennis elbow' area a year or two earlier that worked like a charm....I figured have at it. The elbow shot worked almost immediately but knee needed a few days to take full advantage and it worked like a charm too. The knee pain was so severe,the needle couldn't have hurt any F'n worse but lookin' at the needles they're gonna use is a brave move on your part my friend......I NEVER do that,I just look the other way and say "have at it" .....I'm a chicken.

 

[Raskolnikov]

I still can't believe Stan didn't consult Q before trading Panarin.

That one was unbelievable. Like...you would think breaking the paired duo in the NHL, a perfect high caliber LEFT/RIGHT passer-creator/finisher ... that hadn't even peaked yet to their potential,

you would think breaking the top duo in the NHL deserves a round table discussion. Thats where I lose Stan B on his whole blackhawks "community" and every voice heard shit, and the little house he has built and shit...because for the most important decision of this decade he pulled the trigger without consult and we still haven't found Kane a stable LW years later.

 

[HSBOB]

I like Stan and I really wanted to see him succeed.

I have an intellectual juggernaut father I followed around half my life, overlooked in the shadows, but knowing my place and observing while getting first class mentorship at home, so I guess I have a soft spot for Bowman and sympothize with some of the grief he gets, but you just can't defend the string of mistakes including losing TVR in expansion and Vegas getting a Second round pick or first rounder, whatever it was. We usually don't even get to that small detail in the laundry list.

TVR and Joker really hurt us. Seabs contract killed us. Hossa situation was doctors failing to squeeze out another year or two. Panarin and Seabs are fireable mistakes. Q's reaction tells you all you need to know...thats a no. You don't lose a player of that caliber. You just don't. They are yours, your lucky, you figure it out.

The very fact that Panarin was in the house should have made the Seabs situation easy. He would have gotten a fine contract to play in Canada on a shit team. Not what the Hawks gave, but he would have been richly paid to go home.

To be honest,I supported Seabs 1M raise at the time but I don't see him turning down that deal if it was for five years only and if he did,SB woulda been right and justified in moving him. Looking at that deal closely on CF shows a contract that couldn't have possibly been negotiated any worse that it was. MAX money,MAX term(for a 30yro),MAX clauses and an ongoning bonus structure(29 of the 55M total is in bonuses)that makes a buyout completely useless.
If Seabs only had one year left,his deal would matter little because someone would take a one year shot with a little sweetener but four years remaining makes him untradeable.

 

[Raskolnikov]

To be honest,I supported Seabs 1M raise at the time but I don't see him turning down that deal if it was for five years only and if he did,SB woulda been right and justified in moving him. Looking at that deal closely on CF shows a contract that couldn't have possibly been negotiated any worse that it was. MAX money,MAX term(for a 30yro),MAX clauses and an ongoning bonus structure(29 of the 55M total is in bonuses)that makes a buyout completely useless.
If Seabs only had one year left,his deal would matter little because someone would take a one year shot with a little sweetener but four years remaining makes him untradeable.

He also stopped playing physical the day after he called Backus in the hospital. I don't think he ever hit anybody again, and that was pre-extension.

"If I hit somebody"

1. They will take my money and give it to my favorite charity
2. Suspend me without pay and take my money
3. I could damage a colleague for life
4. I could get hurt or my teammates could get hurt in retaliation(blues had that one coming, was already protective retaliation on Seabs part)
5. Media will paint me a dirty Villain

Not saying the decision was his alone(team/league influenced), or wrong...but he never hit anyone again.