Obi wan

[airtime143]

The acting has always seemed pretty sketchy in star wars movies quite honestly.

Occasionally there are little gems here and there though, like the fight scene.

One of my fave little scenes was the ex stormtrooper in mandalorian executing his old boss.
His story arc was more interesting in that small portion of an episode that Fin had as an ex stormtrooper over 3 movies.

 

[ZOMBIE@CTESPN]

The acting has always seemed pretty sketchy in star wars movies quite honestly.

Occasionally there are little gems here and there though, like the fight scene.

One of my fave little scenes was the ex stormtrooper in mandalorian executing his old boss.
His story arc was more interesting in that small portion of an episode that Fin had as an ex stormtrooper over 3 movies.

You’re right lots of shit acting. And episode 1/2 are just as bad as episode 8/9. Still calling spades on this shit series. I haven’t been entertained at all. I blame my brother he talked me into watching it lol

 

[KBIB]

def the best episode with a decent scene, but still straight shit in the scheme of things ..

vader ripping that ship out of the sky then to shreds was cool.. so lets forget about the fire stopping him seconds after he put it out with the force.. so woman power can save the day in a earlier ep..

yeah lets shoot a door for hours or whatever... oh you know what. i gots a saber and will open it.. but they gotta give leia the electrician time though right..

gotta push the agenda and have a woman be a self sacrificing hero too... hey guys get back lemme shoot that door close and thermal myself.... **** using the thermal earlier and getting behind that door..

hopefully filoni kills it with ahsoka..

Vader could pull a fucking space ship out the sky, but he couldn’t Superman jump over a guy with a lazer sword who had the high ground.

Or force push himself away from fucking lava….

 

[Granada]

Finally watched 1-5. Got some major gripes. Just one man's opinion.

First, Hayden Christensen should not be playing Darth Vader when he's in the suit. It's stupid. They need to do these far back shots because the dude doesn't have the physical make of David Prowse , and the guy can't properly light-saber fight while in the suit. You want to bring him back as Anakin in flashbacks or him as crusty-ass Vader in the bacta tank -- fine -- but putting him in the suit is stupid.

Second, this whole Reva story angle is pretty atrocious. "I'm mad at Vader for killing innocent people, so before I can get my revenge on him, I'm going to help him kill innocent people." Okay then.

This series demeans A New Hope in a few ways, which bothers me. Leia -- in the message she sends to Obi Wan in IV -- implies that she never met Obi Wan, yet now, she's on this huge mission with him and makes zero mention of it in the message. "You served my father in the clone wars.....and oh yeah, and you saved my ass 9 years ago when I was a kid and Flea kidnapped me. Can you help me again?"

Another way it demeans A New Hope -- the whole Vader/Obi Wan fight on the Death Star. "I sense something -- a presence I've not felt since (a whole 9 years ago)."

Also, I guess light sabers just don't kill anybody anymore, lol. I mean I get it, it's Star Wars, technically Darth Maul survived being cut in half, but the fact you're "reviving" two characters (the Grand Inquisitor and Reva) after being impaled in the first 5 episodes, that's a little much. This really bothers me about Star Wars recently -- bringing back characters: Finn, Maul, these two. It's just so damn lazy, commit to a story line/arc already.

There are too many villains in this show, which is why it made sense to kill the Inquisitor, but now he's back, so okay I guess. It also feels like a video game. And lastly, what made Darth Vader cool was his mystique. Too much Vader is a bad thing, and this show is already overdoing it.

 

[Granada]

I must admit that Jar Jar immediately destroyed any hope of liking the prequels, and that really skewed my viewpoint.
I never really gave it much of a chance.

.... And Darth Maul getting bifurcated fed in to my annoyance. He could have been awesome over 3 movies rather than a half of a movie.


I have not watched the clone wars animated series- I didnt know Maul survived until I watched Solo. I hear Maul has a part in the clone wars series.
I am very much hoping Maul comes after Kenobi. (again, I dont know if anything in the clone wars series makes that impossible).

Interestingly enough, I read that the original writers (yes, Obi Wan is yet another Star Wars enterprise where Kennedy fired all the original writers, like with Solo and RoS, and we all saw how those turned out) had Darth Maul as the main villain in Obi Wan, which would have been great. But yeah, the brass didn't like the idea and called for rewriting the script, and since they only care about getting more viewers for their other Disney shows -- like Rebels -- they made the new writers include the main villains from Rebels instead, which are those stupid Inquisitor characters (minus Reva, she was not in Rebels and was only written for this show).

I watched Rebels but not Clone Wars. I tried watching the latter, but it was just way too much of a committment; there are a ton of seasons and they're hour long episodes, I just couldn't do it after the first 2-3 episodes. But it's supposed to be amazing.

Rebels is decent and I actually like Vader better in that than I do in Obi Wan. He basically does the same shit in Rebels, as far as force stuff; and the story with Ahsoka being his padawan is such a better story than the Reva angle. And Vader isn't overdone in that series, they use him perfectly, and when they do, the moments are incredible and have weight to them, unlike in Obi Wan.

 

[Penny Traitor]

Also, the strength of Vader is cool and all but, dude is out there pulling down a space ship, kind makes his fight scenes seem weak.

For serious.

I mean if he could do that just using the force, why bother with the light saber at all and just rip the skeleton right out of your enemy's body and move on to the next slaughter?

I watched Rebels but not Clone Wars. I tried watching the latter, but it was just way too much of a committment; there are a ton of seasons and they're hour long episodes, I just couldn't do it after the first 2-3 episodes. But it's supposed to be amazing.

The Clone Wars animated series, especially the early ones by Tartakovsky are the best thing to happen to Star Wars.

Just watch that and burn everything else.

 

[ZOMBIE@CTESPN]

Interestingly enough, I read that the original writers (yes, Obi Wan is yet another Star Wars enterprise where Kennedy fired all the original writers, like with Solo and RoS, and we all saw how those turned out) had Darth Maul as the main villain in Obi Wan, which would have been great. But yeah, the brass didn't like the idea and called for rewriting the script, and since they only care about getting more viewers for their other Disney shows -- like Rebels -- they made the new writers include the main villains from Rebels instead, which are those stupid Inquisitor characters (minus Reva, she was not in Rebels and was only written for this show).

I watched Rebels but not Clone Wars. I tried watching the latter, but it was just way too much of a committment; there are a ton of seasons and they're hour long episodes, I just couldn't do it after the first 2-3 episodes. But it's supposed to be amazing.

Rebels is decent and I actually like Vader better in that than I do in Obi Wan. He basically does the same shit in Rebels, as far as force stuff; and the story with Ahsoka being his padawan is such a better story than the Reva angle. And Vader isn't overdone in that series, they use him perfectly, and when they do, the moments are incredible and have weight to them, unlike in Obi Wan.

The clone wars really fills in allot of the blanks for revenge of the sith. It was excellent. What I do with these fringe type shows especially the 20-30 min episode ones I save them for the stair master. It might take a long time to finish but it helps watching something while working out and not having to watch it at home

 

[FozzyBear]

Finally watched 1-5. Got some major gripes. Just one man's opinion.

First, Hayden Christensen should not be playing Darth Vader when he's in the suit. It's stupid. They need to do these far back shots because the dude doesn't have the physical make of David Prowse , and the guy can't properly light-saber fight while in the suit. You want to bring him back as Anakin in flashbacks or him as crusty-ass Vader in the bacta tank -- fine -- but putting him in the suit is stupid.

Second, this whole Reva story angle is pretty atrocious. "I'm mad at Vader for killing innocent people, so before I can get my revenge on him, I'm going to help him kill innocent people." Okay then.

This series demeans A New Hope in a few ways, which bothers me. Leia -- in the message she sends to Obi Wan in IV -- implies that she never met Obi Wan, yet now, she's on this huge mission with him and makes zero mention of it in the message. "You served my father in the clone wars.....and oh yeah, and you saved my ass 9 years ago when I was a kid and Flea kidnapped me. Can you help me again?"

Another way it demeans A New Hope -- the whole Vader/Obi Wan fight on the Death Star. "I sense something -- a presence I've not felt since (a whole 9 years ago)."

Also, I guess light sabers just don't kill anybody anymore, lol. I mean I get it, it's Star Wars, technically Darth Maul survived being cut in half, but the fact you're "reviving" two characters (the Grand Inquisitor and Reva) after being impaled in the first 5 episodes, that's a little much. This really bothers me about Star Wars recently -- bringing back characters: Finn, Maul, these two. It's just so damn lazy, commit to a story line/arc already.

There are too many villains in this show, which is why it made sense to kill the Inquisitor, but now he's back, so okay I guess. It also feels like a video game. And lastly, what made Darth Vader cool was his mystique. Too much Vader is a bad thing, and this show is already overdoing it.

Disney had me at Obi wan not beeing able to catch Princess "Florence Griffith Joyner" Leia on foot....

Considering The Grand Inquisitor has two stomachs he should have survived or they would have fucked shit up even more.

 

[KittiesKorner]

I am not a die hard canonical fan like @Mighty Joe Young and the rest of you but if vader can force park a space ship why didn’t he do that to my park ridge bud han solo and the millennium falcon in empire strikes back

 

[KBIB]

Just finished the final episode and I won’t spoil it.

I’m just saying there is an awful lot of fan service. Too much and some of it doesn’t make any sense. They seem to skate around the OG series and the prequels so this series can shoe horn itself into canon.

 

[Granada]

The last episode wasn't terrible, but again, Rebels did the same thing, except instead of Obi Wan, it was Ahsoka. But it was cool to see the big moment in live-action as opposed to a cartoon. Don't want to give too much away, but it really is similar. Writers really stole a lot from Rebels.

So basically, you have to ask yourself: was this big moment worth debasing A New Hope? I'd say no, but it was fairly cool. This episode is definitely the best one. Overall, it gave me something to watch, but I can't help but wish they didn't do it and I really hope they don't do another season.

What I did like about it, was that it gave us something we always wanted in A New Hope but never really got to really see. Plus McGregor was fantastic in this episode and even the lady who plays Reva -- by far the best acting of the series.

Lucas always said he loves when things "rhyme" and you can definitely see a lot of moments with Obi Wan's dialogue where it rhymes with other familiar dialogue you've heard in the trilogies, specifically, what Luke says in Return of the Jedi. This used to agitate me, but for some reason, I did enjoy it this time.

 

[Granada]

I am not a die hard canonical fan like @Mighty Joe Young and the rest of you but if vader can force park a space ship why didn’t he do that to my park ridge bud han solo and the millennium falcon in empire strikes back

Yeah, or at the end of Rogue One, when the ship with the Death Star plans just cruises away and he's just standing there watching it. I guess nerds would give you this answer: he was only able to force-grab the ship in this instance because his hatred of Kenobi was so strong in that moment; it was a hatred that only Kenobi could bring out of him.

 

[ThatGuyRyan]

I think it’s been terrible even by Disney Star Wars standards

But I’m no super fan like @Mighty Joe Young who has every replica light saber

I have heard he sits on them like a pogo stick

 

[ThatGuyRyan]

Flea! But yeah it’s ok, I keep watching the new episodes

 

[airtime143]

Interestingly enough, I read that the original writers (yes, Obi Wan is yet another Star Wars enterprise where Kennedy fired all the original writers, like with Solo and RoS, and we all saw how those turned out) had Darth Maul as the main villain in Obi Wan, which would have been great. But yeah, the brass didn't like the idea and called for rewriting the script, and since they only care about getting more viewers for their other Disney shows -- like Rebels -- they made the new writers include the main villains from Rebels instead, which are those stupid Inquisitor characters (minus Reva, she was not in Rebels and was only written for this show).

I watched Rebels but not Clone Wars. I tried watching the latter, but it was just way too much of a committment; there are a ton of seasons and they're hour long episodes, I just couldn't do it after the first 2-3 episodes. But it's supposed to be amazing.

Rebels is decent and I actually like Vader better in that than I do in Obi Wan. He basically does the same shit in Rebels, as far as force stuff; and the story with Ahsoka being his padawan is such a better story than the Reva angle. And Vader isn't overdone in that series, they use him perfectly, and when they do, the moments are incredible and have weight to them, unlike in Obi Wan.

Trading out maul for vader really limited what they could realistically do.

We all know vader would survive and kenobi would be intact. We knew Luke and Leia would be fine.

Bring in maul and put him after the resistance, and there can be any number of possible resolutions good and bad.

The story was just so limited in possibilities the way it stands.


Speaking of fan service...
The toy space ship in the first and last episode was kind of neat.
I was waiting for it to find its way in to Luke's hands, because that was the toy he was playing with when he was chatting up c3p0 in a new hope.

 

[Granada]

Trading out maul for vader really limited what they could realistically do.

We all know vader would survive and kenobi would be intact. We knew Luke and Leia would be fine.

Bring in maul and put him after the resistance, and there can be any number of possible resolutions good and bad.

The story was just so limited in possibilities the way it stands.


Speaking of fan service...
The toy space ship in the first and last episode was kind of neat.
I was waiting for it to find its way in to Luke's hands, because that was the toy he was playing with when he was chatting up c3p0 in a new hope.

Actually, I believe it would have been Maul with Vader. Vader was always going to be in it; they traded Maul for the Inquisitors. How awesome would it have been to see Maul working with Vader, and possibly plotting against the Emperor? You want to talk about an awesome side story, that's it, at least in my view.

Yeah I agree, the toy was a nice touch. And I really liked how they brought back Owen and Beru from the prequels, I thought the guy who played Owen did a solid job with the role.

 

[Granada]

Flea! But yeah it’s ok, I keep watching the new episodes

And Ice Cube's son! (the main rebel dude who shows up in ep.4)

 

[ZOMBIE@CTESPN]

'Obi-Wan Kenobi' Killed Off Reva In Original Script (Exclusive)

Obi-Wan Kenobi writer Stuart Beattie revealed the original plans for Reva's character in an exclusive interview with The Direct.

thedirect.com

Willing to bet the original script was better than this crap show

 

[airtime143]

I am still wondering why he didnt smoke vader.

It is a tv trope I am tired of- Good guy kills 100 bad foot soldiers only to take mercy on the head honcho.

... I have another gripe that I cannot get over- The inconsistent light saber power.
Cuts through a 2 foot thick steel door like butter, bounces off vaders plastic helmet while somehow shattering it later.


on the light saber thing... still love the mandalorian slicing his own leg with his light saber clone.... that is exactly what would happen to me if I fucked around with one.

 

[ZOMBIE@CTESPN]

Maybe they treating the show light sabers like video games. Vader needs to upgrade his weapons he still stuck on like level 9 lol