Of course, we'd all love Dwight Howard, but...

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Much like Carmelo Anthony, LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh, Pau Gasol, Kobe Bryant, Kevin Garnett, and virtually any other superstar who ever switched teams or thought about switching teams, Chicago Bulls fans are now dreaming about Dwight Howard.Much like...

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By: Doug Thonus

 

[Glide2keva]

Look, if there's any chance of it happening, the Bulls will make it happen. However, there likely is no chance that it's going to happen. We don't need to call up Gar and tell him to work the phones. No need to call Bulls management stupid for not making it happen.

If it has a chance, it will be explored and everything possible will be done to make it go.

Sadly, that doesn't mean it has a chance. Until there's at least a rumor that Orlando will consider offers, or Dwight is interested in Chicago, there simply is no reason to think this has a chance.

That's all that needs to be said right there

 

[Chi-Town Brahma]

That's all that needs to be said right there

True. :bulls:

 

[BigP50]

I doubt that we even persue him.

 

[nwfisch]

I doubt that we even persue him.

Why would you not pursue the best center, by a mile, in the game? I don't like Howard, but if the Bulls want to get better, I think he needs to be acquired.

 

[BigP50]

I would but I dont think the Bulls would give up all they want.

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

howard is a great option and a great player...but i doubt he comes to chicago...there's just too many variables..and too much to give up..

 

[Scoot26]

I dont see us getting Dwight. To me the only place he'll go if he goes anywhere in L.A. I also don't think anything will happen until after the new CBA is agreed to.

 

[Glide2keva]

Going after Howard is just fantasy. The real need the Bulls have is a capable 2 guard. Last time I checked, Howard is NOT a 2 guard. The Bulls are solid up front and need better outside scoring.

I wish we would stop star fucking, and really focus on the actual needs of this team.

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

Going after Howard is just fantasy. The real need the Bulls have is a capable 2 guard. Last time I checked, Howard is NOT a 2 guard. The Bulls are solid up front and need better outside scoring.

I wish we stop star fucking, and really focus on the actual needs of this team.

Our main "need" is to beat Miami. If the Bulls can get a decent deal for Howard, they should do it. We need to keep expectations high for the Bulls' FO.

 

[Glide2keva]

Our main "need" is to beat Miami. If the Bulls can get a decent deal for Howard, they should do it. We need to keep expectations high for the Bulls' FO.

Why would address our most glaring need not be keeping expectations high?

If we have to trade for Howard, we'd have to gut the team and give up our depth more than we would if we actually went after what we need and that I a good 2 guard.

We didn't lose to Miami because of a lack of front court defense. We lost because they were able to load up on defense on Rose and he had no one in the back-court to take pressure off of him.

You guys are pipe dreaming if you think D-Howard will somehow win us a title. We were some key defensive stops and scoring away from a finals appearance. Howard wouldn't help us if the team is gutted. He won't be in games late because of his terrible free throws and he will miss games due to too many techs. And he's a dirty player behind the Kool-Aid smile.

But by all means, keep day dreaming and fapping to Howard coming here (which isn't happening by the way)

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

But by all means, keep day dreaming and fapping to Howard coming here (which isn't happening by the way)

Then a championship probably isn't going to happen either.

Miami is going to improve their 1 and 5 positions in the off-season. The Bulls NEED some offensive versatility. Dwight Howard and Derrick Rose would make the Bulls a lethal offensive team. That is why every Bulls' fan should want Howard. There are scores of ways that it could happen. There would likely be a third team involved, and the Bulls could very well fill in their need of a SG in a Dwight deal.

 

[Glide2keva]

At the expense of our front court depth and cap space.

I've seen this movie and I know how it ends, so we fans should focus on discussing potential 2's that the Bulls actually need instead of something that isn't going to happen.

Howard isn't the be all end all. If he was, Orlando would have at least ONE title, but they don't.

 

[houheffna]

Then a championship probably isn't going to happen either.

Miami is going to improve their 1 and 5 positions in the off-season. The Bulls NEED some offensive versatility. Dwight Howard and Derrick Rose would make the Bulls a lethal offensive team. That is why every Bulls' fan should want Howard. There are scores of ways that it could happen. There would likely be a third team involved, and the Bulls could very well fill in their need of a SG in a Dwight deal.

The Heat won because they have 2.5 superstars and the Bulls have 1...and that one did a good amount of choking. The Bulls were able to handle Wade, but could not do much with James and Bosh. The Heat erased Rose and besides championship defense there was nothing there impeding them.

Bring in another superstar and you have a totally different look. Bring two guys that command double teams and you put a lot of pressure on Miami.

When I see idiots say things like "if Howard was so good he would have at least one title..." it lets me know that people don't do anything but fall in love with mediocre players wearing the uniform. Its easy to see why Howard didn't win a championship yet. It takes a while. Miami has 2 of the top 5 players in the league. Howard, in my book, is better than any two frontcourt Bulls players combined. Depth got you a 4-1 series loss...talent put Miami in the Finals.

I am not saying the Bulls will get Howard or even have a good chance. Getting a good shooting guard is a good thing...getting a future HOF center is another thing entirely...

 

[Glide2keva]

So in other words, you had nothing for what I had to say, so you attack my statement about Howard's lack of rings.

The Bulls need a scoring 2.

Not to gut the team for a center who isn't leading any team anywhere any time soon.

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

The Bulls have some clear problems... their low-post presence (Carlos Boozer) turned out to be not much more than an inconsistent mid-range jump-shooter. Sure, he is an exceptional rebounder, but the Bulls were #1 in the NBA already before they even added him. And he is a soft, passive defensive player.

Dwight Howard should be someone all Bulls' fans have (realistic or not) on their wish lists because he is a much better low-post scorer than Boozer (I cannot even emphasize that enough), a much better rebounder, and (obviously) a much better defensive player.

 

[Glide2keva]

The Bulls have some clear problems. Their low-post presence (Carlos Boozer) turned out to be not much more than an inconsistent mid-range jump-shooter. Sure, he is an exceptional rebounder, but the Bulls were #1 in the NBA already before they even added him. And he is a soft, passive defensive player.

I agree on Boozer

Dwight Howard should be someone all Bulls' fans have (realistic or not) on their wish lists because he is a much better low-post scorer than Boozer (I cannot even emphasize that enough), a much better rebounder, and (obviously) a much better defensive player.

It's a pipe dream. I'm not going to get caught up in any of it. I'd rather deal with what the team needs, and that is a 2 guard who can score and defend.

It wasn't the low post that killed us, it was the back court depth that did us in. Low post defense can be handled by Taj, Noah and Asik who do really well in that department. Too often people get caught up in star gazing and not seeing the cost of what it would take to get said star.

I'd rather be realistic, and the realistic that the Bulls FO will do is shore up the back court because we are set up front.

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

Well, I don't have my heart set on the Bulls being this decade's version of the 90's New York Knicks, because there is a very good chance of that if we do not get a 2nd top 10 player to go along with Rose...

Like I said, man... there are thousands of three-way trade scenarios that could get the Bulls a player like Dwight Howard and retain a decent 2, 3, and 4. Like Houf said, any team that has two players that demand a double team (one along the perimeter and another in the low-block), is not far away from a championship. The only thing the Bulls would really need at that point is a few draft picks to sure up the team for years to come.

Perhaps the Bulls can get a decent SG and, in a few years, upgrade the PF position as well. I'm not necessarily opposed to that. But if there is a way to attain Howard (granted that it does seem like a long-shot), I would see if it is an option... and if so... probably do a deal.

 

[Glide2keva]

Well, I don't have my heart set on the Bulls being this decade's version of the 90's New York Knicks, because there is a very good chance of that if we do not get a 2nd top 10 player to go along with Rose...

Like I said, man... there are thousands of three-way trade scenarios that could get the Bulls a player like Dwight Howard and retain a decent 2, 3, and 4. Like Houf said, any team that has two players that demand a double team (one along the perimeter and another in the low-block), is not far away from a championship. The only thing the Bulls would really need at that point is a few draft picks to sure up the team for years to come.

Perhaps the Bulls can get a decent SG and, in a few years, upgrade the PF position as well. I'm not necessarily opposed to that. But if there is a way to attain Howard (granted that it does seem like a long-shot), I would see if it is an option... and if so... probably do a deal.

I hear you. I just feel it's a waste of time, jut like Melo, lebron etc.

Howard with Rose with be a nightmare absolutely, but the thing is, it's most likely not going to happen.

I don't even think we need a big name at the 2. We just need a guy that can score and defend. They also need the rest of the team to show up, other than that, they are set.

 

[clonetrooper264]

Well SGs that can score and defend are pretty hard to come by too. Realistically, we're probably all willing to give up Brewer or Korver (or both if necessary), Bogans, Taj or Omer, and any of the end of the bench guys for pure salary fillers (and they'd get cut anyway since their deals are non guaranteed which is good for the other team(s) involved) for a SG. Perhaps our draft picks if necessary, which they probably will be. Our depth is fantastic for the regular season, but as Miami is clearly showing, talent wins in the playoffs. Stars getting calls gets you wins in the playoffs. I don't care if we win 70 regular season games but lose to Miami in the ECF. Truth is, come playoff time we won't need the depth as much. An 8 man rotation is more than enough for the playoffs if we had Rose and Howard. Point is, I'm willing to get rid of depth for enough talent to beat Miami, whether that comes in the form of our dream SG or Dwight Howard, or if the basketball gods smile upon us again, both.