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Anytime23 said:
Call me a cheap Jew (cc: @Chief Walking Stick) but with what these guys get paid I’d make them pay for their own food too.
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While I get what you are saying, I would think that teams would want to provide the meals at no cost to the players for several reasons:

1. Helps to ensure the players are eating healthy...because you provided them the healthy food
2. Incentivize the players put in more time and stay at the facility
a. A corollary to this when I read the report card for Arizona is they make it easier for guys like Kyler Murray to not want to be at the facility when you apparently have the worst training room in the league and nickel and dime guys for meals.
3. It sounds like most NFL organizations no longer make guys pay for their meals, so you look like a cheap and/or poorly run organization when it comes to free agency and when guys can decide to go elsewhere.
 

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dentfan said:
You're not wrong about the positional value and the fact that WRs don't slide. That comp with Burks, though, is a bit rough. Burks was a physical specimen that won people with his potential. As an aside, I was never high on him and caught some crap for it. Anyway, with JSN, he is pretty slow for a WR with an alleged 4.6 speed. He is coming off a year of injuries with little to no production and rumors that he could have come back and played but checked out for draft prep -- which is his prerogative, but the optics don't play well.

So, he is not a physical specimen by any stretch of the imagination. I'm forecasting his actual measured height to be around 5'11" once the college round up is removed. So, injuries, lack of production, lack of measurables, and the ability only play one position, which, to be frank, not all teams consider slot to be a starting position. I mean, I get it, in today's one back set, the slot is considered a starting position, but it can be filled by a flex TE, a motioning back, or a big WR trying to post up. He's not a gamebreaking WR. He's not. He's a glorified possession receiver: the reincarnation of Waddle.

So, though I believe he should be considered WR1 for this draft, I think he is going to be the only R1 talent to fall out of R1. I see Skoronski falling into the late teens, early 20's, but not out of the first. JSN? Yeah, he's going to drop. It may allow us to get him with what we can get from a trade back. Him falling is a very good thing for us.
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I don't think JSN will necessarily fall. But the key will be when the run on WRs start. In most mocks, the earliest a WR goes is 12 with Quentin Johnston to the Texans. But he is clearly a flawed player and IDK if the Texans go WR that early. And after that, you don't really have teams with a WR need until the Chargers at 21, and that's probably only if they cut/trade Keenan Allen which their GM made sound like it's not even on the table. Ravens at 22 is an obvious WR spot as well. I don't know if they go after JSN as he isn't all that dissimilar to Rashod Bateman who is mainly a slot guy.

I also think that a few guys may go ahead of JSN. Johnston because of the size and being one of the few true X WRs will go before JSN, I think. Then you'll have Zay Flowers who many think is WR1 and probably will be much faster than JSN. And Jalin Hyatt will be faster than everybody, and teams love to go after elite speed. And then there's Jordan Addison. So there's a legit chance JSN is WR5 off the board. If the WRs don't start coming off the board til the 20s (which is possible in a non-elite class) then I think he could last til the early 2nd, or at least at a reasonable trade up spot if the Bears are able to get an early 2 from a trade down.
 
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bamainatlanta said:
Didn’t Billy Beane do this in Oakland with the Athletics?
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No clue, I only pay attention to sports.
Canth said:
While I get what you are saying, I would think that teams would want to provide the meals at no cost to the players for several reasons:

1. Helps to ensure the players are eating healthy...because you provided them the healthy food
2. Incentivize the players put in more time and stay at the facility
a. A corollary to this when I read the report card for Arizona is they make it easier for guys like Kyler Murray to not want to be at the facility when you apparently have the worst training room in the league and nickel and dime guys for meals.
3. It sounds like most NFL organizations no longer make guys pay for their meals, so you look like a cheap and/or poorly run organization when it comes to free agency and when guys can decide to go elsewhere.
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I get what you’re saying as well. I’m just typically someone who thinks these guys need to be more financially responsible and stop expecting everything to be taken care of for them…

However I don’t think there’s any excuse for any facility or staff member to not be top of the line. When you as a multi-billion sports organization provide an essential service for your players, it better be top notch.
 
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so they're playing darts and putt-putt with prospects.

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msadows said:
I am having the feeling this happens as well. Him and Hutch playing next to each other would be scary. Lions also have the capital and roster to take a major risk at 6.
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Seattle might take him at 5 and save the bears. Then lions can lion and take a rotational DT in bresee
 
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