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Yes this is where your bias comes in if you are claiming Bellichek, Reid, and Carroll, dont inspire hope. All of those guys won a SB the next time around.
I dont know why you cant be honest and admit you were always going to come up with mental gymnastics to dismiss the idea. So again it was not an honest question. You were going to rig the answer to suit your narrative no matter what.
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Black Ryan P can show some man balls if he picks up the phone and tells Harbaugh he is not getting roster control but he will do right by him if he wants to fix the Bears with him.
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There’s not enough of them to inspire hope. Hence the term outlier. It’s okay to, believe it or not, not think you are right about everything.
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Saw a post on reddit saying DBB on some podcast said ted retiring next year and khan interviewed as potential replacement
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Who knows if its true...my guess is Kahn would be #2 to Poles? I can't imagine Poles would take this job only to be told he'll have a boss other than management shortly thereafter.
Having Kahn just to bounce ideas off of from a GM to Team President standpoint...thats what I've wanted from the beginning of this.
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He's expected to get the Saints job with Payton stepping away.
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Other than make good use of the picks.
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How many 2nd chance coaches have been hired and how many have succeeded? It is okay to, believe it or not, admit you really have no clue about any of this.
NFL Coaches - National Football League - ESPN
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Of this list we have Arians, Carroll, Bellichek, Reid, Gruden, Campbell, Rivera, McCarthy that got 2nd chances. Of those 8, 5 have won SBs the 2nd go around. I suppose you can remove Arians since he retired the first time around rather than was fired, but 1st question. How the **** is a 57% (without Arians) to 62.5% (with Arians) Super Bowl win rate not inspire hope?
Now let's look at the first timers. There are 24 first timers. Of those 24, only 3 have won Super Bowls (Harbaugh, Tomlin and Patyon). That is a laughable 12.5% Super Bowl win rate.
I have nothing against you WCBF. Your arguments are just fucking Special person sometimes. You just say dumb shit based on your own limited knowledge of the NFL and then when people point out your limited knowledge, you get upset.
Dude you are like 12 years old or some shit. You don't know as much as most people here. You should understand by now that I usually don't say shit without having some foundation in the data. I was trying to be facetious in pointing out the flaw in your logic but since you didn't take the hint then here is the data.
I am truly sorry that you are wrong again. I honestly wish you were right so we don't have to vortex because I know even after being proven wrong empirically you will still try to dispute the facts.
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Remy you’re acting like I claimed what I knew what I was talking about. I asked an honest question, and wasn’t inspired by the answer I got. If you are hopeful about it, great more power to you. I’m not. Nobody knows how the **** this will go. And it doesn’t inspire hope because there’s a ton of head coaches that are fired that never show improvement at all. Again I never claimed there were 0.How many 2nd chance coaches have been hired and how many have succeeded? It is okay to, believe it or not, admit you really have no clue about any of this.
NFL Coaches - National Football League - ESPN
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Of this list we have Arians, Carroll, Bellichek, Reid, Gruden, Campbell, Rivera, McCarthy that got 2nd chances. Of those 8, 5 have won SBs the 2nd go around. I suppose you can remove Arians since he retired the first time around rather than was fired, but 1st question. How the **** is a 57% (without Arians) to 62.5% (with Arians) Super Bowl win rate not inspire hope?
Now let's look at the first timers. There are 24 first timers. Of those 24, only 3 have won Super Bowls (Harbaugh, Tomlin and Patyon. That is a laughable 12.5% Super Bowl win rate.
I have nothing against you WCBF. Your arguments are just fucking Special person sometimes. You just say dumb shit based on your own limited knowledge of the NFL and then when people point out your limited knowledge, you get upset. Dude you are like 12 years old or some shit. You don't know as much as most people here. You should understand by know that I usually don't say shit without having some foundation in the data. I was trying to be facetious in pointing out the flaw in your logic but since you didn't take the hint then here is the data.
You are fucking wrong. Sorry.
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Ok but I just gave you evidence that 57%-62% of retreads that were HCs this year won the Super Bowl as compared to only 12.5% of first time coaches. So again the point is your logic simply doesn't make sense. You are more likely to win a SB if you hire a retread than you are if you hired a 1st time. That is what the data shows us.
Of course we don't know how things will turn out. That was never the argument. The point here is you are clearly dug in on your position so why pretend you were seeking an honest answer. The honest answer again is you are better off hiring a retread if the SB is the goal but because that doesn't fit your narrative you still won't acknowledge the data I just presented to you.
Simple question. Based on the data I just presented, do 1st time or 2nd time coaches give you a better chance to win a SB? Now watch you try to avoid answering.
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Why is everyone tying Poles to Quinn?
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Can someone give me like a really short GIST of everything that has happened in the past 24-48 hours? Everytime I click on this magnificent thread I'm 40 pages behind.
Please? TIA.
Please? TIA.
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Wrong.
The high variability of pick success predicts that number of picks trumps skill of the picker and the math would not be close on that significance level.
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1. Poles has been hired as GM
2. Poles has complete control over the head coach search
3. Omar Khan actually interviewed for the VP of Football ops role (Sweaty Teddy's gig)
4. Aaron Rodgers is still a *****
That's about it for the last 48 hours
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But even if that weren’t true, putting more picks in a skilled pickers hands allows them to move up and down at will to ensure their skill is deployed most effectively.
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Does that leave an outside shot at Payton? That khan move is unexpected but could it be an attempt to satisfy Payton’s desire not to be interfered with by ownership?
Or like seemingly every other former Bear Payton has some bad blood?
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Maybe after we screw up this coaching hire the time will be perfect for Payton or Harbaugh in about 2 years. When Michigan fails to win the Big 10 again…twice..and Payton has a little time off and thinks about this Fields opportunity some more upon seeing his development, which I am 90% sure will happen.
my biggest fear with Fields is his father wants him to be a Brown for his second contract.
my biggest fear with Fields is his father wants him to be a Brown for his second contract.