Official 2011-12 Around The NBA Thread(News/Rumors/Game Discussion)

[Uman85]

Kenneth Faried may have had his coming out party tonight for the Nuggets. 18 points and 10 rebounds in just 24 minutes. With Nene and Al Harrington's inconsistency and also Nene being so prone to injury, I could definitely see Faried getting some definite PT in the future for Denver. He was a hell of a rebounder and defender in college. If he can provide some scoring, he'd be a big help for the Nuggets.

 

[Uman85]

I'm happy that MIN is starting to play well. Idk why, but even though I'm a fan of a big market team and that I live in CHI, i like seeing small market teams do well.

Love, Rubio, Williams, Pekovic could be something special in 2 years.

I'm with you. I've always liked the Wolves. Maybe it's the logo or the proximity to Chicago, but I've always rooted for them in the West.

 

[thechosenone]

Also, Nikola Pekovic is a beast. Where the **** did this guy come from?

Nikola Pekovic was the best C in Europe.His coach didn't give him much time last year.This year he was a starter in one match and now he is one of the best C's in the league imo.

 

[bleacherbum54]

Goose Ayon is another kid who is very good who came from international talent. He is so smart for his position very good defender good pass I really like him.

 

[Uman85]

Nikola Pekovic was the best C in Europe.His coach didn't give him much time last year.This year he was a starter in one match and now he is one of the best C's in the league imo.

If he can keep up his current stats, the Wolves are a SG and some depth away from making some noise in the next few years.

 

[bleacherbum54]

Nikola Pekovic was the best C in Europe.His coach didn't give him much time last year.This year he was a starter in one match and now he is one of the best C's in the league imo.

No doubt Pek was a beast was most dominate C in some time over there he is no Sabonis lol but he is a banger with touch around the rim. But it is great to see him play more under Aldeman who is a much smarter coach and better than Rambis..

 

[bleacherbum54]

If he can keep up his current stats, the Wolves are a SG and some depth away from making some noise in the next few years.

Taking Johnny Flynn was beyond idiotic and most everyone said that at the time I didnt have Flynn rated in my top 20 he was a TO machine midget in college I didnt get all the hype. Also Wes Johnson I didnt agree with I had him in the late lottery not top 5. It would be interesting if they had Monroe and Curry instead of the 2 they picked Monroe is the perfect big to play in the Princeton offense that Rick runs. The would be pretty close talent wise to the 02 Kings in terms of players who can fill the roles that the player on the 03 Kings filled.

But I also didnt have Monroe going top 5 either so I doubt they take him even if they pass on Wes. Monroe has been way better than I though he would be early in his career props to him.

 

[thechosenone]

There are many great players in Europe that are better than most of the NBA players.

Rubio wasn't the best PG here.Not even a top3 imo.

Navaro,Diamantidis and Teodosic are way better than him.

And all good Euroleague players are good players in the NBA too.I don't know someone who was good here not to be good in the NBA.

One very talented player is Nikola Mirotic too.He would be a great addition in any team.

 

[thechosenone]

No doubt Pek was a beast was most dominate C in some time over there he is no Sabonis lol but he is a banger with touch around the rim. But it is great to see him play more under Aldeman who is a much smarter coach and better than Rambis..

Come on!Sabonis wasn't a human!There are very few European players that can be compared to him.

 

[Uman85]

There are many great players in Europe that are better than most of the NBA players.

Rubio wasn't the best PG here.Not even a top3 imo.

Navaro,Diamantidis and Teodosic are way better than him.

And all good Euroleague players are good players in the NBA too.I don't know someone who was good here not to be good in the NBA.

One very talented player is Nikola Mirotic too.He would be a great addition in any team.

Mirotic was drafted by the Bulls. Hopefully he can come to Chicago in the next few years.

 

[bleacherbum54]

There are many great players in Europe that are better than most of the NBA players.

Rubio wasn't the best PG here.Not even a top3 imo.

Navaro,Diamantidis and Teodosic are way better than him.

And all good Euroleague players are good players in the NBA too.I don't know someone that was good here not to be good in the NBA.

One very talented player is Nikola Mirotic too.

disagree with the bold guys like Cabbages is a beast in Euro but sucked in the NBA same with Marco Jaric same can be said about many guys who never come over. Navaro came over but he failed he had to go back overseas he is great right now in Euro league though.

Teodosic is a great player but like Cabbages he isnt NBA material imo and he agrees he say he has no interest to play here. He is the perfect player for the Euro game and Rubio is perfect fit for the NBA and a horrible fit style wise for Euro.

Bo McCaleb is the only guy I really want to come over I think he would be a great pg in the NBA

Nikola Mirotic is gonna be a great pro over here his verstility is really rare and he can really do it all at the PF spot once he gets stronger he is gonna be really good even though he isnt that good of a athlete he is a basketball player.


The only euro I like in the up coming draft is Tornike Shengelia he is gonna be a great dirty worker garbage man in the NBA imo


Evan Fournier intrigues me but I dont have access to french league to watch him play.

Tomas Satoransky I think we never play in the NBA I dont like his game for the NBA.

But no doubt there is great talent in Europe and basically every draft you can get 1st rd talent in the 2nd rd if you are willing to wait.

Mirotic was top 10 talent that the Bulls got in the 20s IMO very good investment he is worth the gamble and wait IMO.

Spurs got a great talent in Bertans last year I had him graded as a late 1st rder that they got in the 40s. I dont know if he ever comes over but he is worth the gamble. He needs time to develop but he has a lot of Nic Batum in his game one of the best shooters around is Bertans.

 

[thechosenone]

@Uman85 Yes I know it.He is a great fundamental player.

He is not one of the very best of all time.But he is an elite Euroleague player.He would be a great addition to any team.Probably not a starter in a good team but he will be one of the best bench PF in the league and he is better than many starter PFs in the league right now.

@bleacherbum54 Who is Cabbages and in which team was he playing here?

Teodosic and Navaro could do a great career in the NBA.I don't know why Navaro failed.Maybe it was hard for him to get used in the rhythms of life there.Or he didn't like it.It's hard to have your family and your friends so far.If he was coming there earlier he would be an elite PG.But he came at 28?It's very hard to leave everything in your life just to prove that you can play in the NBA.He was more talented than most of the non elite PGs in the NBA.

 

[bleacherbum54]

Stanko Barac is suppose to come over next season for the Pacers. Easily the best name in sports. But I dont know if he still plans to come over he just signed an extension but maybe he just did that as leverage to get more $$ from the Pacers.

Stanko vs Asik should be some epic battles

you know who my avatar is thechoosenone?? It should be a pretty easy for you probably the most courageous and best euroleague scorer of all time and he played in your home country.

 

[Uman85]

Stanko Barack? Isn't that the president?

I kid. But that is quite a name. Lol

 

[thechosenone]

Stanko Barac is suppose to come over next season for the Pacers. Easily the best name in sports.

In what sport?

you know who my avatar is thechoosenone?? It should be a pretty easy for you probably the most courageous and best euroleague scorer of all time and he played in your home country.

Ford?Great scorer and a fighter.

 

[thechosenone]

European best 12 players of all time I have witnessed:

1.Nikos Galis
2.Arvydas Sabonis
3.Drazen Petrovic
4.Dirk Nowitzki
5.Dejan Bodiroga
6.Sarunas Jasikevicius
7.Vlade Divac
8.Pau Gasol
9.Dino Radja
10.Tony Kukoc
11.Dimitris Diamantidis
12.Sasha Danilovic

 

[bleacherbum54]

In what sport?


Ford?Great scorer and a fighter.

yes Ford was still dropping buckets just weeks before he would die of cancer. Crazy how he played though cancer easily the craziest yet most courageous thing I had ever heard.

 

[bleacherbum54]

European best 12 players of all time I have witnessed:

1.Nikos Galis
2.Arvydas Sabonis
3.Drazen Petrovic
4.Dirk Nowitzki
5.Dejan Bodiroga
6.Sarunas Jasikevicius
7.Vlade Divac
8.Pau Gasol
9.Dino Radja
10.Tony Kukoc
11.Dimitris Diamantidis
12.Sasha Danilovic

Cabbages is Jasikevicius's nickname

as good as Sarunas Jasikevicius is and was in Europe that is how bad he was in the NBA. His style of play was not for the NBA.

Drazen Petrovic probably the best shooter that has ever lived.

Teodosic will proablly be in the top 5 by the time he retires in Europe in terms of best player IMO that is if he stays healthy.

 

[thechosenone]

The only problem Jaskevicius had there is that he was born to be a star player and not just a player in one team.He couldn't stand this.And he took his revenge against NBA players.

The exact same problem that Drazen had there in the beginning of his career.But Drazen wasn't a diva like Jaskevicius and he stayed there to fight and prove everyone what he is capable of.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuQ03PSy7Fk]Jasikevicius show ( Lithuania vs. USA ) [ 2004 Athens ] - YouTube[/ame]

 

[thechosenone]

Teodosic will proablly be in the top 5 by the time he retires in Europe in terms of best player IMO that is if he stays healthy.

Nah.He is very good but nothing near the very best of all time.His attitude is a problem too.All of the great players I mentioned before except Jaskevicius and Danilovic was great characters too.But Jaskevicius was such a sensational sound player you can forget about his character.If he wasn't a diva in all of his life he would probably be higher in the list.