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What is that...5 playoff games? I guess that is fair.

The 7 game suspension is fair, but it would be more fair if he serves his 7 game suspension PLUS he shouldn't be allowed to suit up until Harden can suit up again.Its only fair because with a concusion injury in the head, Hardin could miss more than 7 games and didn't do anything wrong at all.
When Hardin can play again, that's when Artest the master of World Peace should be allowed to play again, unless of course Hardin comes back before Artests suspension is up.
PRETTY FAIR IDEA IN MY BOOK IF I WAS IN CHARGE OF HANDING OUT SUSPENSIONS,
THAT'S HOW I WOULD GO ABOUT IT.
 
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The 7 game suspension is fair, but it would be more fair if he serves his 7 game suspension PLUS he shouldn't be allowed to suit up until Harden can suit up again.Its only fair because with a concusion injury in the head, Hardin could miss more than 7 games and didn't do anything wrong at all.
When Hardin can play again, that's when Artest the master of World Peace should be allowed to play again, unless of course Hardin comes back before Artests suspension is up.
PRETTY FAIR IDEA IN MY BOOK IF I WAS IN CHARGE OF HANDING OUT SUSPENSIONS,
THAT'S HOW I WOULD GO ABOUT IT.


Totally disagree...doctors and teams manipulate injuries all the time. You are pretty much allowing OKC to dictate Artest's suspension. Absolutely not.
 

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Totally disagree...doctors and teams manipulate injuries all the time. You are pretty much allowing OKC to dictate Artest's suspension. Absolutely not.
I think the Thunder would be more interested in dictating there championship chances than another players punishment on another team.
I don't think any team orginization that's contending for a championship would purposely sit one of there top players longer than needed just to get back at Artest.
That just isn't logical. Especially when the Thunder are competing to win a championship.
Why would the thunder sacrifice there title chances just to get back at 1 player on another team? I respectfully disagree with you because It doesn't make sense to me.
That's like saying the Thunder would rather make Artest suffer longer than win.
Kind of silly if you really think about it.
Just my opinion and I think my idea was pure genius.
:shrug:
 

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I think the Thunder would be more interested in dictating there championship chances than another players punishment on another team.
I don't think any team orginization that's contending for a championship would purposely sit one of there top players longer than needed just to get back at Artest.
That just isn't logical. Especially when the Thunder are competing to win a championship.
Why would the thunder sacrifice there title chances just to get back at 1 player on another team? I respectfully disagree with you because It doesn't make sense to me.
That's like saying the Thunder would rather make Artest suffer longer than win.
Kind of silly if you really think about it.
Just my opinion and I think my idea was pure genius.
:shrug:

What if Artest had hit a scrub like that? Do you use the same penalty? Again, absolutely not. And that is not an original idea, its been stated MANY times before. So why hasn't anybody used that idea? One player can be out for 2 days with a sprained ankle, another for 2 weeks.

No competent player's union will go with that rule. Teams beg players to sit out to tank seasons. The length of a penalty should be set by the commissioner's office alone, no mitigating factors, like some team doctor's opinions, should be a part of it.
 

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What if Artest had hit a scrub like that? Do you use the same penalty? Again, absolutely not. And that is not an original idea, its been stated MANY times before. So why hasn't anybody used that idea? One player can be out for 2 days with a sprained ankle, another for 2 weeks.

No competent player's union will go with that rule. Teams beg players to sit out to tank seasons. The length of a penalty should be set by the commissioner's office alone, no mitigating factors, like some team doctor's opinions, should be a part of it.

I never said a team doctor should take the case.
I would say in cases such as this, an independant doctor hired by David Stern himself.

But I'm sticking to my idea in this case no matter who differs in my opinion.
If I was in charge, in this situation where someone is intentially injured, I would step in and make an exception in the punishment I give out.

Ron Artest could of killed the man if he had hit his temple by his eye the right way.
I don't have a problem with hard fouls, but iin this case its obvious what artests intentions were.
Artest would just have to pray that Harden returns before his supension is up. Starting with bringing him flowers and get well card...plus he should do his laundry...etc.....etc................

With me being the judge, I here by order ron artest to a 7 game suspension without being able to return until Harden is able to play.
Case closed. My judgement is final. The court room may now be excused.
 
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Halftime results.
Clippers - Knicks 39-48
76ers - Bucks 45-50

As it seems both of them are trying to avoid playing against the Bulls in the first round.
 

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The 7 game suspension is fair, but it would be more fair if he serves his 7 game suspension PLUS he shouldn't be allowed to suit up until Harden can suit up again.Its only fair because with a concusion injury in the head, Hardin could miss more than 7 games and didn't do anything wrong at all.
When Hardin can play again, that's when Artest the master of World Peace should be allowed to play again, unless of course Hardin comes back before Artests suspension is up.
PRETTY FAIR IDEA IN MY BOOK IF I WAS IN CHARGE OF HANDING OUT SUSPENSIONS,
THAT'S HOW I WOULD GO ABOUT IT.

lol wut
 

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Philly won.

Clippers - Knicks 70-84 with 9 minutes remaining.

Everybody expected them to lose and pick us for the first round and they are both trying to avoid us. :lmao:
 

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Funny fact: If the Clippers lose tonight and the Grizzles win Orlando tomorrow the Clippers will play w/o home court advantage in the first round.
 

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Funny fact: If the Clippers lose tonight and the Grizzles win Orlando tomorrow the Clippers will play w/o home court advantage in the first round.

Even with home court, I don't see the Clips beating the Grizz.
 

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Spurs - Jazz
Thunder - Mavericks
Lakers - Nuggets
Grizzles - Clippers

Celtics-Hawks
Pacers-Magic

The only games that matter tomorrow are:

NYK-CHA
PHI-DET
 
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By Alex Raskin Senior NBA Writer said:
Michael Jordan Responds to Larry Brown
Michael Jordan’s tenure as an NBA owner is starting to look like his time as a minor league baseball player.His Bobcats have lost 21 consecutive games and are being outscored by an average of 13.9 points per night. They rank last in offensive efficiency, defensive efficiency, true shooting percentage and effective field goal percentage.

However, they rank 29th in the league in rebounding rate (take that Golden State Warriors!).

Charlotte has only one player—rookie Kemba Walker—with a Player Efficiency Rating over the league average of 15 (his is 15.2). And as if that wasn’t bad enough, the team’s best playmaker, D.J. Augustin, plays the same position as Walker, so it’s difficult to keep both on the floor at the same time.

The bottom line is, the team has gone from bad to worse since Jordan became the face of the franchise, and that decline has coincided with his retreat into seclusion.

Jordan hasn’t been the most talkative person since retiring as a player. He still has his own Nike brand and his Hanes commercials pop up once in awhile. But the smiling guy we see on TV is usually grimacing at Bobcats games, if he’s in attendance at all.

And according to former Bobcats coach and current SMU coach Larry Brown, Jordan’s problems are exacerbated by his own stubbornness and the phalanx of “yes” men that surround him.

“You know I love the guy, think he’s brilliant, but he’s around people who don’t have a clue,” Brown said today on the Dan Patrick show, as quoted by ESPNChicago.com. “And they won’t challenge him. And the more you challenge him, the more you get from him.

“I was sick about it,” Brown added. “I haven’t spoken to him since. I don’t like seeing what’s going on.”

Well apparently Brown’s words were enough for Jordan to reach out to the press, something he’s rarely done as an NBA owner.

In an interview with Rick Bonnell of the Charlotte Observer, Jordan attempted to clear up any confusion about the people that work around him in the Bobcats front office.

“It’s absolutely wrong that I don’t want guys to challenge me,” Jordan told Bonnell. “And the people who say that aren’t in the room.

“The idea that people can’t do that is just wrong,” he continued. “Curtis (Polk, team vice chairman) has worked with me for over 20 years and he’s never had a problem telling me, ‘no.’ Rod (Higgins, president of basketball operations) has no problem telling me no. Fred (Whitfield, team president) has no problem telling me ‘no.’ And Rich (Cho, the team’s general manager) is about as direct and candid a person as you’ll ever meet.”

And as bad as the Bobcats have been, Jordan vehemently denied tanking in any way.

“This was going to be a trying year—we knew that,” Jordan told Bonnell. “But did we want to chase the most Ping Pong balls? No way.”

Jordan went on to say that he expects to be judged by a higher standard than other owners because of the success he had as a player, and that could be right. But at a certain point, even if the team in question is doing poorly, fans have to feel connected to a plan or a direction.

The issue in Charlotte is, the fans don’t know where this team is going. The Bobcats two best players (Augustin and Walker) play the same position. Tyrus Thomas—who signed a $40 million, five-year deal before the 2010-2011 season—has been phased out throughout the course of this year. Charlotte still owes Corey Maggette nearly $11 million next season and it’s unlikely that DeSagana Diop or Matt Carroll will opt out of their deals, so that’s nearly another $11 million added to the cap right there.

How can a team improve when it has so much bad money on its books?

The good news for Bobcats fans is that they’ll have a top-4 pick in this year’s draft and have a 25% chance of landing Anthony Davis with the first overall pick. What Jordan does from there is up to him. No, he’s not alone in that front office and there are other decision makers working under him. However, he’ll be the person who ultimately has to answer to his home state fans and they can’t be too happy right now.

Jordan gave Tyrus Thomas a big contract. Drafted Adam Morrison. Drafted Kwame Brown in 01 and signed him as a free agent last season. Traded away Felton, Chandler, Wallace, Stephen Jackson. Plenty of evidence to indicate the fact that he has no idea what he’s doing when it comes to evaluating talent. He drafted Kemba. Good call. Drafted Gerald Henderson. Another good call. Now back off and hire people who can surround them with other talented players. Provide the money and stay away.
 

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Jordan gave Tyrus Thomas a big contract. Drafted Adam Morrison. Drafted Kwame Brown in 01 and signed him as a free agent last season. Traded away Felton, Chandler, Wallace, Stephen Jackson. Plenty of evidence to indicate the fact that he has no idea what he’s doing when it comes to evaluating talent. He drafted Kemba. Good call. Drafted Gerald Henderson. Another good call. Now back off and hire people who can surround them with other talented players. Provide the money and stay away.

MJ as player=Greatest Player ever.

MJ as GM/Front office exec...may go down as worst ever..if he doesn't turn it around
 

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MJ needs to sell the team and lace the high prices Jordans up and get back on the floor. Bobcats should have kept Felton, Wallace and should trade Thomas for anything. Bobcats probably will end up taking Austin Rivers. BOOK IT!
 

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MJ needs to sell the team and lace the high prices Jordans up and get back on the floor. Bobcats should have kept Felton, Wallace and should trade Thomas for anything. Bobcats probably will end up taking Austin Rivers. BOOK IT!

not austin rivers. At least it shouldn't be.. Should be Anthony Davis.
 
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