Official 2021 Offseason Discussion Thread

[Discus fish salesman]

Zion wants to play in NYC

Zion is a tool. He's wanted to play for the Knicks since high school and he and his family are going to make it happen.

 

[BNB]

Maybe Lillard foces his way out of Portland. Imagine having lillard, Lavine, and Vuc

I wish, but he has very little leverage, considering he has 4 years remaining on his deal. If he had 3 left, with the 3rd year being a player option, then maybe.

What's more likely to happen is Portland trading CJ. They need to do something different, and the combo of Dame and CJ just isn't doing it.

 

[knoxville7]

I wish, but he has very little leverage, considering he has 4 years remaining on his deal. If he had 3 left, with the 3rd year being a player option, then maybe.

What's more likely to happen is Portland trading CJ. They need to do something different, and the combo of Dame and CJ just isn't doing it.

oh, I agree it’s a longgg shot. At the same time, nba players have more leverage than nfl or mlb players do. Look at how harden forced his way out of Houston and to Brooklyn. Houston didn’t want to trade harden. Harden not only forced a trade, but basically picked the team he got traded to…forcing Houston to pick from Brooklyn’s roster(but not Durant or kyrie) for compensation. It can happen, but I agree that CJ being traded is more likely outcome

 

[knoxville7]

Well lets hope the bball gods smile upon us today.

cmon 20%!!!

 

[BNB]

oh, I agree it’s a longgg shot. At the same time, nba players have more leverage than nfl or mlb players do. Look at how harden forced his way out of Houston and to Brooklyn. Houston didn’t want to trade harden. Harden not only forced a trade, but basically picked the team he got traded to…forcing Houston to pick from Brooklyn’s roster(but not Durant or kyrie) for compensation. It can happen, but I agree that CJ being traded is more likely outcome

Yeah, Harden's situation is why I actually said if Dame had 3 years remaining with the 3rd year being a player's option, then he may have a chance to get moved if he demanded it haha.

That was Harden's situation. 3 years left, with the 3rd being a player's option, which essentially makes it a 2-year deal. From Houston's standpoint, if they were going to trade him, it was better to do it sooner rather than later because the closer they got to 2022's trade deadline, they would have lost more and more leverage in negotiations. At that point, they'd just be concerned about losing Harden for nothing in return.

Of course, Harden still screwed them a bit when he was making it known to certain teams that he wouldn't play for them either, which meant they weren't willing to give up many assets for a 2-year rental.. So Houston pretty much got stuck with negotiating with Brooklyn. They still got an OK deal, given the circumstances... but it would have been much worse if they waited until next year.

Now in 2023... If Portland still isn't a legit contender, then they'll be in trouble with Dame.

 

[knoxville7]

10 min till the start of the nba draft lottery. Anyone got predictions? I’m going with bulls get the #3 pick ???

 

[knoxville7]

Damn no draft picky

 

[Scoot26]

Lol watch Cavs win #1 again.

 

[Discus fish salesman]

Damn no draft picky

That sucks. That could have been huge.

 

[knoxville7]

That sucks. That could have been huge.

indeed…can likely forget any trades for top end guys like Lillard, Beal, etc. not that they were likely to get traded to Chicago anyways. Wouldn’t of hurt to of been stuck having to pick a guy in the top 4 either

 

[Axl Rose]

Well lets hope the bball gods smile upon us today.

Narrator: They did NOT smile upon them.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

**** it:

S&T Lauri + Coby + Aminu +2022 first for Simmons + 2021 first

 

[Discus fish salesman]

**** it:

S&T Lauri + Coby + Aminu +2022 first for Simmons + 2021 first

Do we really even need to put in a first?

I wouldn't be against
PG- Simmons
SG- Lavine
SF- P.Will
PF- Theis - Simonovic
C- Vucevic- Thad
Then whatever they can fill out the roster with

 

[Axl Rose]

I'm a bit iffy on Simmons. His timidness to shoot and lack of any improvement in that regard is both concerning and bizarre. Can't have a player of his caliber refusing to take shots in the 4th quarters of a playoff series.

On the other hand he is easily the most talented player we could possibly get this offseason. Allot more intriguing than Lonzo Ball or Dennis Schroder. Its worth looking into but the cost is probably LaVine and i'll pass on that.

 

[Discus fish salesman]

Any chance a 3 team deal could be worked where bulls get Siakam and Simmons? Bulls would be pretty solid defensively and possibly have the firepower to overcome Simmons ineptness.

Spencer Dinwiddie is another solid option. I assume he is going to get paid and start somewhere though

 

[clonetrooper264]

**** it:

S&T Lauri + Coby + Aminu +2022 first for Simmons + 2021 first

You know...I don't hate it. We have enough players for him to pass up shots to lol

But then again, so does Philly...

 

[Discus fish salesman]

You know...I don't hate it. We have enough players for him to pass up shots to lol

But then again, so does Philly...

Could they still afford a guy like Dinwiddie to replace Simmons in late games and big spots?

 

[clonetrooper264]

Could they still afford a guy like Dinwiddie to replace Simmons in late games and big spots?

Possibly. Not sure where Dinwiddie's value is at post injury

 

[bamainatlanta]

Philly might be looking to dump Tobias Harris. But $34million per for the next 4 years for a guy who is best as a #3 in an offense

 

[Enasic]

Philly might be looking to dump Tobias Harris. But $34million per for the next 4 years for a guy who is best as a #3 in an offense

Philly might be looking to dump Tobias Harris. But $34million per for the next 4 years for a guy who is best as a #3 in an offense

Would be a great fit but no thanks on that contract