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Colvin and Castro could be the 1-2 combo for the most part of the season and they are expected to be in the same position in today's game. I like it and can't wait to see what they do again tonight.
 

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Hey waldo, Lou used your lineup!
 

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I do...but Colvin has produce from the leadoff spot unlike Theriot. Colvin is faster, has more power, little less contact but is a way better fit than Theriot.

You're saying Colvin is a way better fit because he has done well in like 20 at bats there? Come on man.

And Colvin is faster than Theriot? Do you watch the Cubs? I've seen both play quite a bit and Theriot is definitely faster.

Also you say Colvin makes a little less contact, how about a WHOLE lot less contact. Colvin has a career 71 contact% (ML average is about 81%) and Theriot has a career contact% of 90%, and is tied for 4th highest in the NL this season. Colvin ranks 5th to last in the NL this year with a 70.5%. So you're pretty far off on that assumption buddy.
 

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From what I've seen, Colvin is faster. I'm just saying, Colvin is more like a leadoff man than Theriot. I'm not saying either of them are leadoff material but Colvin is my pick. Maybe try Castro for one game and Colvin 2.
 

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From what I've seen, Colvin is faster. I'm just saying, Colvin is more like a leadoff man than Theriot. I'm not saying either of them are leadoff material but Colvin is my pick. Maybe try Castro for one game and Colvin 2.

I can't wait to see Colvin fail at hitting leadoff once he hits there permanently and has to readjust his whole approach. A hitter who strikes out nearly a 3rd of the time, one of the worst contact rates in the league, who has big power so far, and poor plate discipline, yea he's bound to thrive in the leadoff whole.

Colvin also has the 12th highest K% in the NL, swings at the 7th most pitches outside the K zone, and the 5th worst BB/k ratio in the league.
 
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I can't wait to see Colvin fail at hitting leadoff once he hits there permanently and has to readjust his whole approach. A hitter who strikes out nearly a 3rd of the time, one of the worst contact rates in the league, who has big power so far, and poor plate discipline, yea he's bound to thrive in the leadoff whole.

Colvin also has the 12th highest K% in the NL, swings at the 7th most pitches outside the K zone, and the 5th worst BB/k ratio in the league.

Let me ask you this: Who would you rather have as a leadoff man, Theriot or Colvin? That's all I'm saying. I take Colvin or Theriot. Theriot has done shit all year and def from the lesdoff spot.
 

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Let me ask you this: Who would you rather have as a leadoff man, Theriot or Colvin? That's all I'm saying. I take Colvin or Theriot. Theriot has done shit all year and def from the lesdoff spot.

Well all signs point to Colvin being even worse than Theriot as a leadoff hitter. Theriot is a career .288/.337/.336 hitter batting 1st, although in 2009 he hit .286 with a .346 OBP, in 2008: .368/.419/.412 (74 PA's), and then 2007: .300/.342/.420 (161 PA's). Your team isn't doing shit right now, I don't see why you guys won't ride it out with Theriot. Or even Castro, I just realized yesterday he's been pretty hot. I guess Lou is even more stupid than we though, Castro is the future of the team basically and he would be a much better leadoff hitter over Colvin.

But to the original question, they both have similar BA's and OBP's, but Theriot has the much better profile to be the leadoff hitter, Colvin's is your anti-leadoff hitter and more like a middle of the order hitter.
 

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We just have to give Colvin time and see how he produces.
 

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who bats lead-off = over rated

The lead-off man will actually lead off usually only once, maybe twice a game. Theoretically, you should place your best hitter there because numerically, the lead-off batter should and does get the most at-bats.

I think Lou is just using common sense. These two kids are the best hitters on this pathetic team....why not give them the most AB's? Ok, maybe not so prevelent in the National League with the pitcher batting 9th which will hurt the RBI count but this should be a given in the American League with the DH.
 
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who bats lead-off = over rated

The lead-off man will actually lead off usually only once, maybe twice a game. Theoretically, you should place your best hitter there because numerically, the lead-off batter should and does get the most at-bats.

I think Lou is just using common sense. These two kids are the best hitters on this pathetic team....why not give them the most AB's? Ok, maybe not so prevelent in the National League with the pitcher batting 9th which will hurt the RBI count but this should be a given in the American League with the DH.

2009 NYY-Jeter
2008 PHI-Rollins
2007 BOS-Lugo (although this team had one of the best offenses and the best pitching that year so anyone could have led off and this team still would have won)
2006 STL-Eckstein
2005 CHW-Podsednik
2004 BOS-Damon
2003 FLA-Pierre
2002 ANA-Eckstein
2001 ARI-Womack
2000 NYY-Knoblauch
1999 NYY-Knoblauch
1998 NYY-Knoblauch
1997 FLA-White
1996 NYY-Boggs
1995 ATL-Grissom

12 of the past 15 WS winners had a leadoff hitter who had a solid or better season. Two teams that are identical, the only difference being one team with a solid leadoff hitter and a weak number 8 hitter and the other team having a solid 8 hitter and a weak leadoff hitter, I can guarantee you that the team with the solid leadoff hitter is going to win more games.

I can also tell you the White Sox could have as much as a 5 game lead in the AL Central had we signed Orlando Hudson, who right now is hitting .283/.354/.388 for MIN.
 

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We just have to give Colvin time and see how he produces.

THIS.

I can't believe that I'm agreeing with Waldo, but yes. Between Theriot or Colvin leading off, I'd go with Colvin because it definitely couldn't hurt. Once Colvin gets some discipline behind the plate, he could potentially be a solid lead off man. He's probably not going to be a career .300 batter like I thought, but probably a .280, which is still respectable. Although, I'd rather see Castro lead off, he's not quite ready and I'd like to see what Colvin can do.
 

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Prior to this offseason's workout regime and the added pop to his bat Colvin wasn't even projecting to be much better than a 4th outfielder. He worked damn hard to put himself in a position to be an everyday player. A lot of scouts still aren't sold on Colvin having the bat to be an everyday corner outfielder. His best spot in the order will likely end up being 6th. He's never going to have the OBP to be a leadoff hitter. His new found power may put him into the range of a 5 hitter. Maybe a #2 on a team with a good lineup because of his athleticism. But realistically look for Colvin to have and OPS somewhere around a Brad Hawpe. That would be a huge win for the Cubs.
 

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Hey!! They're making their run for the playoffs!!!

The "real" Carlos Silva just showed up.

They're about ready to bring back Fuckstick Zambrano, too.

DLee has the bat speed of a 4 year old.

Soriano has the strike zone knowledge of Stevie Wonder.

Theriot struggles to get a base on balls on an IBB.

GOD FORBID, please dont trade any of these valuable assholes!!!
 

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